Thank You, Selles

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I don't understand the negativity towards Sellés by some. I guess it's easy to kick a man when he's down (and out). I wasn't impressed at his appointment tbh, but give him his dues he did his best, it clearly didn't work out and he didn't hide when the heat was on.
Que tengas buena suerte para el futuro, Rubén.👍
And I really hope, somehow, somewhere, sometime that he really wasn't despised by all the supporters. At Ipswich, when he went to the away end, he should NOT have received that abuse, the personal insults, there is a more humane way to express your feelings.
 

Sure Dave Bassett said in his biography the club have no vision and after all these years that still remains, no long term football structure and to quote pinchy we are only happy with the muck n nettles approach.

To neutrals last season Wilder was krypton
Ite to neutrals this season we are a laughing stock. Every football fan will want us to lose every game and the wilder is a wanker chants will be back

I have no qualms with Selles the idea was right sadly the board picked the wrong man.
As much as you probably shouldn't have sacked Wilder, to now ask him to come back really demonstrates your point. Especially with not far off 90% of the matches still to play!
 
There was nothing modern, innovative or betraying any sort of knowledge about him. He tried to impose a backwards, unworkable style and the players were having none of him after working with top coaches and manager just before. He was very lucky with his inheritance from last season and pissed it up the wall like a nepo baby. Quite frankly he should be thanking us for a huge payout for a few weeks "work".
Have you ever smiled, or felt positive in your life ?
 
He was never the right fit for our club, irrespective of the outcome. I get the feeling COH are the same.

I didn't shout for him to get out at Ipswich, somehow it seemed wrong to be against the club, after all we are supporters, through thick and thin.

I hope he gets another job and can prove that he almost knows what he is doing.........

HH
 
Sure Dave Bassett said in his biography the club have no vision and after all these years that still remains, no long term football structure and to quote pinchy we are only happy with the muck n nettles approach.

To neutrals last season Wilder was krypton
Ite to neutrals this season we are a laughing stock. Every football fan will want us to lose every game and the wilder is a wanker chants will be back

I have no qualms with Selles the idea was right sadly the board picked the wrong man.
Did anyone ask him what exactly he meant by "vertical" football. All that transpired was a defence that booted the ball up the pitch and hoped that a Utd shirt got it. That reminded me of the days of leather footballs, Bert Slater (of Wolves) & his scissor kick. Also Dennis Finnegan (of SUFC). NO nonsense defending it was called. Today's players haven't got a clue what that means fortunately.UTB
 
On a serious note, now that Selles has gone, I’d like to thank him.

I never wanted him, like many and he was a surprise change of direction, a bold gamble by COH. It didn’t work, but that’s not to say that Selles wasn’t welcomed. He was. He had a big banner.

It was a bizarre appointment by COH and I’ve no doubt that he’s probably a good coach that understands coaching players. He has some strong ideas on how he wants his side to attack and of course stats will show that we had possession in high areas on the pitch.

It’s not enough in this day to attack so recklessly and play with wingers that don’t know how to supply a striker or defend when needed. It’s also not enough to play without a central midfield. Yes we have to play to our strengths but the failure to even research the opposition is always going to end badly.

Selles will have known who and what he was replacing, he knows who will replace him. It was a tough place for him to come into and change the mentality from a structured and organised side to become a carefree attacking side. It may have worked but it was unlikely to.

The owners set him up to fail, he wasn’t the right man and they took so long to back him with suitable players that he ultimately had no chance. The American Clients I’ve worked with gave me a saying “setting you up for success”. COH didn’t do this and if anything they created a hole for him to climb out of with no tools until the last days and hours of the transfer window.

Selles will go elsewhere and do alright as a coach, he may even learn from this to become a better league one manager. But for now he’s not at his level.

Selles, took his chance and had a go. It didn’t work, but it’s time to move on for everyone. Good luck for the future and thanks for trying.
Sorry didn’t read any more after 1st sentence, so won’t ask why
Onwards and upwards
 
The pre season games gave me a little feeling that we'd do quite well this season, albeit against lower league sides, it highlighted the need for new defensive recruits, but going forward we looked fluid and dangerous, my optimism proved to be I'll founded, apart from the first half against Bristol we have looked awful in every department. It was a big risk getting in selles, and i dont blame him one jot for taking the job, and weirdly I dont dislike the fella, he wasn't good enough, and that's not his fault, its the fault of the board for not looking hard enough at his credentials
 
I’m not sure he deserves thanking, he’s left us in a terrible position with a massive mountain to climb. Couldn’t even get us a single point on the board, an embarrassing effort.
The Nil Percenter badge is a phenomenal accolade for him.

Gash
Gash and more gash.
 
That Bristol city drubbing where we looked okay going forward will live long in the memory.
We were bobbar in that game. Gung Ho, back doors wide open, stupid foul for first goal when everyone knows Twine’s ability at set pieces. Selles set that team up to fail and never recovered becaue his whole philosophy was ruined on day one when the rubber hit the championship tarmac.

He was clueless. A painting by numbers YTS with all the qualifications and zero experience.
 
Nothing against him personally, but this appointment has been a disaster from start to finish.

Good luck, and in the nicest possible way, good riddance.
 

He was put into a hard position but he had a go and even on Friday after a heavy defeat, he didn’t shirk the responsibility. I’ve got respect for him now that I didn’t have before he came in (I’d never heard of him), but I’m glad he’s gone
I have zero respect for a con man.
Zero sympathy, either.

He fronted up like all con men and frauds do. It’s a confidence trick.
It’s not brave. It’s a deflection.

Selles wanted to experiment with a “style” he’s “learned” from the official coaching manuals - and thought he’d cleverly adapted - but his lack of experience left him totally exposed when it came to pitting his wits against seasoned championship level managers.

He’s a charlatan and whilst he duped the naive COH boys with his corporate deck he’s just another failed painting by numbers graduate of folly.
 
Intelligence wasn't a problem. Championship football experience was. He was shown to be inept at this level before taking on the job. It's one of if not the best level of football in the world. Experience will nearly always beat Intelligence.
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Sure Dave Bassett said in his biography the club have no vision and after all these years that still remains, no long term football structure and to quote pinchy we are only happy with the muck n nettles approach.

To neutrals last season Wilder was krypton
Ite to neutrals this season we are a laughing stock. Every football fan will want us to lose every game and the wilder is a wanker chants will be back

I have no qualms with Selles the idea was right sadly the board picked the wrong man.
No. They picked the wrong time AND the wrong man.
The Bassett reference is spot on. They need to invest a huge wedge to make infrastructure viable for such a fundamental change.
As it stands now, we are only geared up for a traditional football manager approach with an experienced coaching staff.

The idiots of COH got rid of all the coaching staff too. How stupid was that ?
 
A decent enough bloke who never hid when it went wrong just not up to the job no ill feelings from me. Not sure it was all his fault the summer recruitment has been shockingly bad. I watched the football league highlights last night and to be honest half the teams looked way better than our pedestrian squad, loads of movement, pace and fantastic attacking play FL's Coventry city looked very good I'm not sure peak Wilder will do a lot with this squad who look way off the rest.
Disagree with the ability of this squad. It’s far better than most in this division.

Why is he a decent bloke?

Because he doesn’t goad the pigs?
He’s decent because he doesn’t appear to have mates who like a bevvy?
He’s a hirsute foreigner who speaks 4 languages and has a load of qualifications as opposed to a local oik that can barely make a statement that doesn’t include the word “punter”?

What makes him decent ?

Does it make him decent that he destroys players confidence?

Does it make him decent that he takes a squad of players and adds in his boys of Louie Barry and Tyler Binden, who are clearly no where near Championship level - but never drops them despite being utter gash?

Does it make him decent that he flexed his authority by dropping Campbell and Hamer for his most important game to seemingly illustrate who’s boss?

Does it make him decent that he appears to toe the corporate line? So the squad starts the season completely I’ll prepared for a championship campaign.

I just don’t get the sympathy.
He’s been absolutely gash from day one.
 
Don’t think he was thrown under the bus as much as Slav but I will always wonder whether he thought that young pre-season team with his tactics were good enough to be pushing for promotion?
Slav?
Hecky came in and showed up Slav to be just as much a fraud as Selles is.
Why does everyone give Jokecanoffish a free ride? He was appalling.
 
Disagree with the ability of this squad. It’s far better than most in this division.

Why is he a decent bloke?

Because he doesn’t goad the pigs?
He’s decent because he doesn’t appear to have mates who like a bevvy?
He’s a hirsute foreigner who speaks 4 languages and has a load of qualifications as opposed to a local oik that can barely make a statement that doesn’t include the word “punter”?

What makes him decent ?

Does it make him decent that he destroys players confidence?

Does it make him decent that he takes a squad of players and adds in his boys of Louie Barry and Tyler Binden, who are clearly no where near Championship level - but never drops them despite being utter gash?

Does it make him decent that he flexed his authority by dropping Campbell and Hamer for his most important game to seemingly illustrate who’s boss?

Does it make him decent that he appears to toe the corporate line? So the squad starts the season completely I’ll prepared for a championship campaign.

I just don’t get the sympathy.
He’s been absolutely gash from day one.
I guess he's been humping your lass
 
Agree with much of this and it’s right to recognise that he was set up for failure by shambolic governance over the summer. That said, he takes full responsibility for his flawed system and some of the blame for the poor form of some of last year’s best players (Burrows, Peck, Campbell, Cooper et al).

I respected his acceptance of responsibility and fronting up to supporters when it would have been far easier not to. Many lessons learned, I’m sure, and hope he finds success in his next role.
Why.
If it smells like shit and looks like shit and feels like shit, why do you cut him so much slack?
He was utter garbage.
Useless, inept, gash.
I don’t get this “decent” and upstanding character. He’s visibly destroyed players confidence yet he is to be lauded as an heroic trier.

I just don’t get the sympathy and warmth to such an abject failure. 🤷‍♂️
 
I don't understand the negativity towards Sellés by some. I guess it's easy to kick a man when he's down (and out). I wasn't impressed at his appointment tbh, but give him his dues he did his best, it clearly didn't work out and he didn't hide when the heat was on.
Que tengas buena suerte para el futuro, Rubén.👍
6 games and six, yes SIX defeats.
Not scored for over 7 hours.
The worst managerial stats in the history of the club.
One shot on target in the last 7 hours of football
And some don’t understand the negativity?

What am I missing here ?
 
Did anyone ask him what exactly he meant by "vertical" football. All that transpired was a defence that booted the ball up the pitch and hoped that a Utd shirt got it. That reminded me of the days of leather footballs, Bert Slater (of Wolves) & his scissor kick. Also Dennis Finnegan (of SUFC). NO nonsense defending it was called. Today's players haven't got a clue what that means fortunately.UTB
It certainly didn’t relate to us moving up the league table in a vertical manner.
 
I’d have expected better from you, Metal.
Well come on fella why the hatred? He never threw the players under the bus or blamed the referees he tried his best but it just wasn't good enough the bloke didn't hide or run down the tunnel at the end of games give him a bit of respect for that even if he was garbage.
 

Well come on fella why the hatred? He never threw the players under the bus or blamed the referees he tried his best but it just wasn't good enough the bloke didn't hide or run down the tunnel at the end of games give him a bit of respect for that even if he was garbage.
Nope.
It’s a professional game.
Have you witnessed the dogs abuse that RND got?
That lad has my sympathy becaue he TRULY tried. His injury at Cov was horrendous and he was playing superbly at that time.
I’ve all the time for genuine people with genuine effort but none whatsoever for absolute dross like Selles
6 games. 6 defeats. 12 conceded in five league games.
One shot on target in 7 hours of football. Why should I respect or revere that?
 

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