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——————Eastwood————————
——-stearman——Wright——-JOC———
Baldock———————————-Stevens
——————Evans——Fleck—————
————————Duffy————————
————Sharp————-Donaldson——-

Love basham but he is out of his depth and our weak link. Why not just play our best 3 cbs in a back 3?
Put Stevens but would have no complaints if Lafferty started as Stevens has been poor.
Duffy HAS to come back in, he’s been our best player throughout the season and without him we don’t look like creating anything.
Clarke has been poor last month, doesn’t seem to be able to bully the cbs anymore.
Really hope brooks is fit enough for the bench
 

---------------Eastwood--------------
----Lenny--Stearman--JOC-------
Baldock---------------------Lafferty
-----------Evans----Fleck-----------
-----------------Duffy-----------------
----------Clarke-----Sharp---------
 
Doing this differently by starting with what I think are needed decisions:-
Subs - Bash, Stevens.
Captain - Stearman

Big decisions for Mr Wilder but I’d go;-
Blackman or Eastwood
Stearman - Jake Wright - JOC
Baldock - Fleck - Leonard - Duffy
Holmes
Donaldo - Sharp

Bench - Leon, L.Evans, Bash, Lafferty, Wilson.
Assuming Brooks & Ched not ready.
 
I think I'd go for
Blackman if fit if not Eastwood
Baldock Leonard Stearman O'Connell Lafferty
Evans fleck
Duffy Holmes
Donaldson

Subs id bring on sharp for Duffy or holmes depending on who is tired and Wilson for Donaldson later on letting Wilson and sharp play together for 20 or 25 mins see what they can do together. Have a feeling sharp would come back in and do a job now was only dropped because of bad form so why can't we drop Clarke. For me out of the strikers I think Clarke and Wilson are to alike and they both want to be the main striker. Some people might disagree with this but for me out of the 4 I think it should be one of either Clarke and Wilson and one of sharp or Donaldson who will run the channels and come out wide to pick the ball up if and when needed. We have seen what Donaldson likes to do and that is run in behind the defence and try and make some thing and put in a good cross for Clarke last time he scored at derby.
 
I may be taking my heart in my hand, but now that Holmes has had his first full opportunity, it would seem that most of us were not unimpressed.

Given a run of games I think we'll find that Holmes adds a considerable range of skills, energy, and opportunism when we most need it. He's certainly got a shot in him, so apart from delivering a killer pass, we've also got a player capable of taking responsibility when it matters. Now, the question of Holmes and Duffy in the same team? Can it happen, well that's for Wilder to work out. I tend to stay away from orthodox (meaning unimaginative) approaches to formations, instead allowing players to make positions their own whilst making sure that the basics are attended to.
 
The team that gave them a footballing lesson was:

Blackman
Baldock Basham CCV JoC Stevens
Coutts Fleck
Duffy
Sharp Clarke

I’d go with the same, availability permitting, so:

Stearman where CCV is
Evans in place of Coutts

Hard on Holmes but I also felt the same about Brooks not starting. Holmes to be first off the bench.

Leeds are without Saiz, their outstanding performer from tge last fame, Jansson and Berardi.
 
He's been quiet because he hasn't been playing. Other than that he was our best and most potent midfielder when he has played.
He was crap last time he played and Wilder sees him every day in training so I'm sure there is a good reason he's not starting.

Either he's not doing enough in training to force his way in or maybe he's carrying a knock that we don't know about.

Either way I trust Wilder's judgement over any lobbyists for any one player on here,
 
This is a concern going forward.

If we don't adjust to the financial level of the Championship we're relying on miracles we can't expect Wilder to perform every season.

Wages will only go up and promotion challenges aren't sustainable when you can't even afford middle of the road Championship players.
I wouldn't let it worry you, you can't do owt about it.

Save yourself the angst ;)
 
There's a damn good reason why Duffy hasn't featured lately !


I just don't know what it is ?
 
He was crap last time he played and Wilder sees him every day in training so I'm sure there is a good reason he's not starting.

Either he's not doing enough in training to force his way in or maybe he's carrying a knock that we don't know about.

Either way I trust Wilder's judgement over any lobbyists for any one player on here,

We should probably shut down the forum then if the answer to everything is “Wilder knows best”, not really much to debate.
 
He was crap last time he played and Wilder sees him every day in training so I'm sure there is a good reason he's not starting.

Either he's not doing enough in training to force his way in or maybe he's carrying a knock that we don't know about.

Either way I trust Wilder's judgement over any lobbyists for any one player on here,
Rubbish. He had an off game like many others have recently, the fact remains that he has been our best and most creative player this season and should therefore be starting every game possible.
 
Rubbish. He had an off game like many others have recently, the fact remains that he has been our best and most creative player this season and should therefore be starting every game possible.
Hang on, I said he had a crap game last time he played.

You the said "Rubbish. He had an off game

Care to explain the difference?
 
We should probably shut down the forum then if the answer to everything is “Wilder knows best”, not really much to debate.
Debate all you want but the bottom line is that Wilder sees the players day to day, knows their fitness status and knows their mood/psychological state.

I'm going to take his opinion over mine and yours every time :)
 
Blackman
Basham Stearman O’Connell
Baldock Lundstram Fleck Stevens
Duffy
Sharp Clarke

Subs: Eastwood, Wright, L. Evans, Leonard, Holmes, Brooks, Donaldson​
 

Debate all you want but the bottom line is that Wilder sees the players day to day, knows their fitness status and knows their mood/psychological state.

I'm going to take his opinion over mine and yours every time :)

It’s a decent situation to be in, Inam bemoaning the fact that one of the seasons standout performers can’t get a game, must mean there are some other decent players around to challenge him. However I think CW is a little bit ‘signing blind’ at the moment and is playing Holmes and Leonard as he’s coveted them for so long.

If we were winning and/or creating loads of chances and Duffy not playing then I’d have no qualms, but we aren’t and he seems like a decent option to get us back on the right track.
 
It’s a decent situation to be in, Inam bemoaning the fact that one of the seasons standout performers can’t get a game, must mean there are some other decent players around to challenge him. However I think CW is a little bit ‘signing blind’ at the moment and is playing Holmes and Leonard as he’s coveted them for so long.

If we were winning and/or creating loads of chances and Duffy not playing then I’d have no qualms, but we aren’t and he seems like a decent option to get us back on the right track.
It's a valid point of view and you may be right, after all when you invest in new players, 2 of whom you have been chasing for a long time, it's difficult to justify not playing them.

That said Duffy has just signed a new contract so is it equally difficult to justify not playing him?

What I do know is that Wilder wants to win every game and he also takes the views of others into account, particularly Alan Knill, so I assume he's not ploughing a lone furrow in his selections.
 
Don't mind who plays, but really don't think Wilson should be starting. He may come good, but hasn't shown enough yet. Option from the bench, fine.
I tend to agree with that.

I think the early goal at Norwich bought him some brownie points but he's contributed very little since then.

That said he must be a decent player, you're not on the books at Man U at his age if you can't play.
 
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+ Duffy should start.
Very much agree
 
I tend to agree with that.

I think the early goal at Norwich bought him some brownie points but he's contributed very little since then.

That said he must be a decent player, you're not on the books at Man U at his age if you can't play.
I think it may be a case of time to fit into our system and expectations. When he has the ball under control I've seen him look like he could offer a decent threat. He may not be fit enough to press all he should yet. Holmes on the other hand knows what Wilder wants as they've already worked together and seems to have endless energy.
 
I think it may be a case of time to fit into our system and expectations. When he has the ball under control I've seen him look like he could offer a decent threat. He may not be fit enough to press all he should yet. Holmes on the other hand knows what Wilder wants as they've already worked together and seems to have endless energy.
Once again I tend to agree.

I'm not arguing against you,I'm merely trying to rationalise the position as it stands.

We'll see next Saturday what the most important person thinks.

UTB
 
- - - - - - - - - - - - Blackman
- - - - - - -Bash - - - -Wright - - -O'Connell
Baldock - - -- - -Evans - - --Fleck - - -- - - - - Stevens
- - - -- - - - -- - - - -- - DUFFY
- - - -- - - - - -Sharp - - - - Clarke

Bench: Eastwood, Stearman, Lafferty, Leonard, Holmes, Donaldson, C.Evans


I'd have a go at reverting to as close as possible to the line up that got us up there in the first place... probably illogical to drop Stearman for Wright as Stearman's being playing well but I'd do it anyway - Wright seems to have talismanic qualities..

Plenty of options off bench if needed...

Badly need Blackman to be fit as I wouldn't fancy throwing Eastwood into this fixture...

It's a very winnable game. UTB!!
 
We have to play 2 out of Duffy Holmes and Brooks.We have been 1 dimensional for too long.Get creative players running at the defence ,space opens up ,the sevice to the front 2 gets better & we are back in the play offs in 3 weeks time. Wilson and Clarke have had crap service because it's been too slow and predictable.

Utb
 
I may be taking my heart in my hand, but now that Holmes has had his first full opportunity, it would seem that most of us were not unimpressed.

Given a run of games I think we'll find that Holmes adds a considerable range of skills, energy, and opportunism when we most need it. He's certainly got a shot in him, so apart from delivering a killer pass, we've also got a player capable of taking responsibility when it matters. Now, the question of Holmes and Duffy in the same team? Can it happen, well that's for Wilder to work out. I tend to stay away from orthodox (meaning unimaginative) approaches to formations, instead allowing players to make positions their own whilst making sure that the basics are attended to.
I agree let's have more creativity .We are too 1 dimensional going forward
 
- - - - - - - - - - - - Eastwood

- - - -Heneghan Stearman O'Connell

Baldock - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Stevens

- - - - - - - Leonard - - - - - Fleck

- - - - - - - - - - - - - Holmes

- - - - - - Donaldson - - - - Clarke
 
- - - - - - - - - Blackman

- - - Stearman Wright O'Connell

Baldock - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Stevens

- - - - - - - Evans - Duffy- - - Fleck
- - - - - - - - - - - - - HOOLDonaldson/Holmes/Brooks - - - ll - _______&&&&&&_ Sharp

One striker where I've put Bill, though Wilder may put Clarke or Wilson there, but they're to be given the instruction to be available in the box. As little helping out on the wing as they can. Whip some balls in and boom.

I'd love Holmes or Brooks playing in behind Sharp because I think they can make the passes and Bill will score if he's fed the right ball.

Would avoid Leon and Don playing together, too many head height balls that are hard to work with.

Would try Stearman at RCB because he's as mobile as Bash if not as quick and has a decent pass in him
 
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Blackman
Stearman Wright O'Connell
Baldock Evans Duffy Fleck Stevens
Clarke Sharp

My reasoning

I think like a few people have mentioned in other posts, Basham is starting to become a bit of a target. I would move Stearman to the right, but not with the license to overlap. this can be provided by both Duffy and even sharp pulling wide.

If Sharp doesn't play I would like to see Holmes offer a different alternative and with his workrate hopefully this will allow Fleck further forward.

Win Percentage when Sharp plays is 55% and without him it's 25%.
 

Duffy has to start... he’s the only one if our players that can dictate play and keep hold if the ball long enough to bring others in to play.

Even on a bad day he’s at least equal to the other 10.
 

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