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Darren William said:
They're must a known Millwall wanted big money for him in first place, if we couldn't meet Qpr's asking price utd stood f*** hall chance getting the Millwall lad if report is true
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It's not a case of being unable to meet qpr asking price it's more of not being willing to pay over the odds for somebody nearing end of contract.
 
Blade56 said:
Don’t you start with feckin Twixx jibes
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I'll have know, I was up fucking ladder yesterday for 3 bastard hours fixing the roof on the Pergoda that the wind had started to get hold of last week. Reight ballache unscrewing rusted fucking screws with a pair of mole grips cos the previous owner had rounded em off...cunts.
Here's a pic of the preparation process
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Can someone please explain something to me because I'm THICK...

Ordinarily when we sign someone it takes DAYS from having a bid accepted by the selling club to sorting out the medical and personal terms and completing the deal. We're apparently still putting bids in for players, so how can we hope to complete all the necessary parts of the deal in just a few hours?
 
BalticBlade said:
Can someone please explain something to me because I'm THICK...

Ordinarily when we sign someone it takes DAYS from having a bid accepted by the selling club to sorting out the medical and personal terms and completing the deal. We're apparently still putting bids in for players, so how can we hope to complete all the necessary parts of the deal in just a few hours?
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It gets rushed. Normally medical takes up most of the time during negs. Less thorough medical if its shorter term loans helps.

All parties HAVE to stop pissing around with the brinkmanship of negotiating the financials and just agree to get it done and dusted !!

UTB
 
BalticBlade said:
Can someone please explain something to me because I'm THICK...

Ordinarily when we sign someone it takes DAYS from having a bid accepted by the selling club to sorting out the medical and personal terms and completing the deal. We're apparently still putting bids in for players, so how can we hope to complete all the necessary parts of the deal in just a few hours?
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Because the window closes tonight
 
DronnieBlade said:
It gets rushed. Normally medical takes up most of the time during negs. Less thorough medical if its shorter term loans helps.

All parties HAVE to stop pissing around with the brinkmanship of negotiating the financials and just agree to get it done and dusted !!

UTB
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"The financials" is the whole reason the selling club and the player are doing it. For us as a buying club, there's a limit to what he's worth.
 
Lukewarm take: Even though we've had a great window so far, I'm still in favour of binning them off and either going back to doing business all year round or make it so players can only move during the close season.
 
Greasy Chap Butty said:
"The financials" is the whole reason the selling club and the player are doing it. For us as a buying club, there's a limit to what he's worth.
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Which is why all 3 parties have to find and agree on somewhere in the middle. Further complicated if an agent is acting like a see you next Tuesday..

The “power” on which party has to back down the most is very complex !!

UTB
 
BalticBlade said:
Can someone please explain something to me because I'm THICK...

Ordinarily when we sign someone it takes DAYS from having a bid accepted by the selling club to sorting out the medical and personal terms and completing the deal. We're apparently still putting bids in for players, so how can we hope to complete all the necessary parts of the deal in just a few hours?
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Mainly because we are particularly tight and refuse to pay the initial asking price in the hope that the eventual deal will be closer to our opening offer. That whole process can take days at the start of a transfer window as the selling club will hold out for a greater fee but with the window soon slamming shut (TM) their room for manoeuvre is limited.

It's often a case of who blinks first. Recent history would suggest that it's not usually us but the trade-off is that we don't always sign our targets.
 
Lord Eddard Muir said:
Lukewarm take: Even though we've had a great window so far, I'm still in favour of binning them off and either going back to doing business all year round or make it so players can only move during the close season.
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I’d be in favour of transfers in closed season to stop the gerrymandering that goes on between rival promotion contenders.
 
DronnieBlade said:
Which is why all 3 parties have to find and agree on somewhere in the middle. Further complicated if an agent is acting like a see you next Tuesday..

The “power” on which party has to back down the most is very complex !!

UTB
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Yeah, but point being none of them have to back down. If we don't match what the player, or selling club want, then they may not back down. Just won't bother. Likewise if it's too high, we won't.
That's a lot to wangle in a day. It isn't pissing about. Especially when they normally put sell on's etc in.
 

We miss someone like this.

Luton & Pompey both did this to us with long balls. I remember us trying it against Liverpool.

Konate was a monster and headed everything and we got bullied. Peck and Vini bully the midfield but Anel & Robbo get bullied too regular.
 
Oh how I wish we had him last night. Big dominant right back who would help us on balls into the box and defend corners.

Please just sign him in the summer at all costs.
 
Bladezz said:
Oh how I wish we had him last night. Big dominant right back who would help us on balls into the box and defend corners.

Please just sign him in the summer at all costs.
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He's not a right back
 
DronnieBlade said:
This is EXACTLY where our Jan budget should have gone.

Assume we go up.

Is JT getting a PL shirt next season ?

Is TC ??

See where I’m going ??????

UTB
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If he is all that then a prem league club would have snapped him up and paid the extra and Millwall would have sold

If we get up then the reality is we were going to have to spend big and bring in 8 or 9 players or even more

Do I think this guy works out better in prem than Robbo, probably yes

But if him alone was such a big factor to keep us up next year then he already would be in prem league
 
Brownieblade said:
If he is all that then a prem league club would have snapped him up and paid the extra and Millwall would have sold

If we get up then the reality is we were going to have to spend big and bring in 8 or 9 players or even more

Do I think this guy works out better in prem than Robbo, probably yes

But if him alone was such a big factor to keep us up next year then he already would be in prem league
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He was. And in a strong (ish) Tottenham side he didn’t look much out of place.

Club brings in multi million pound CBs and young lad sees his pathway blocked.

Moves down a division. Its a well worn road in the Billion pound industry that is the PL.

Do you believe we would be better off points wise if Big Harry had not been injured ?

Not replacing him adequately may be Wilders biggest mistake this year that could cost us.

TC has had a poor (very poor actually) start to his career here. I am informed that his signing was driven by the new boards desire to be seen to “back their manager” rather than Wilder having him as a top top transfer target at that price point.

It already looks like several million pounds too much.

As I’ve said, a £10m CB should have been a MUCH greater priority than a £10m CF. That’s my opinion.

UTB
 
DronnieBlade said:
He was. And in a strong (ish) Tottenham side he didn’t look much out of place.

Club brings in multi million pound CBs and young lad sees his pathway blocked.

Moves down a division. Its a well worn road in the Billion pound industry that is the PL.

Do you believe we would be better off points wise if Big Harry had not been injured ?

Not replacing him adequately may be Wilders biggest mistake this year that could cost us.

TC has had a poor (very poor actually) start to his career here. I am informed that his signing was driven by the new boards desire to be seen to “back their manager” rather than Wilder having him as a top top transfer target at that price point.

It already looks like several million pounds too much.

As I’ve said, a £10m CB should have been a MUCH greater priority than a £10m CF. That’s my opinion.

UTB
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Agree completely. Cannon is such a bizarre signing considering our issues at the back.
 
DronnieBlade said:
He was. And in a strong (ish) Tottenham side he didn’t look much out of place.

Club brings in multi million pound CBs and young lad sees his pathway blocked.

Moves down a division. Its a well worn road in the Billion pound industry that is the PL.

Do you believe we would be better off points wise if Big Harry had not been injured ?

Not replacing him adequately may be Wilders biggest mistake this year that could cost us.

TC has had a poor (very poor actually) start to his career here. I am informed that his signing was driven by the new boards desire to be seen to “back their manager” rather than Wilder having him as a top top transfer target at that price point.

It already looks like several million pounds too much.

As I’ve said, a £10m CB should have been a MUCH greater priority than a £10m CF. That’s my opinion.

UTB
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Get all that mate but that doesn’t take away from the fact that he would have been snapped up by now based on what he has done this last 12 months at Millwall

I think we would be better with Harry yes but reality is until last night we were literally equal points wise with the best team in the league if it wasn’t for a points deduction and we had kept up despite not having Harry for a while now

If we don’t go up and Holding wasn’t a good enough replacement then that’s a fair enough question to ask

TC has hardly been here and not every player hits the ground running straight off, some come straight in and some take time, TC wasn’t the reason we lost last night

Tbh I’m not sure your other point makes sense?? So the board wanted to show they backed Wilder by not buying his top targets but overspending on one on his list ?? I’m not sure how that shows to wilder they are backing him

As for what to spend I guess that’s on the board and valuations but I’m not sure we would be that much clear of Leeds or Burnley if we spent on a CB, we probably would still be similar as to now
 
Lets hope Holding can do the job of commanding centre half in the air, as we have definitely regressed in this aspect once Souttar went down in a heap.
 
4.5 years to go and then Cannon can be compared to Brewster, hope his works out, but early days
 
Signing Cannon and not signing a 1st team CB in January is why Wilder has to go at the end of the season
 

FTPE said:
Eh?
He signed Holding.
Cannon plays up front.
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I agree with him that it was a major mistake, but not with the "Wilder must go" stuff which is total nonsense.

Holding has barely played (predictable) and his loan is almost half-up.
Cannon has contributed OK in patches, but it stands to reason that it wasn't a good allocation of that level of resource.

We had long enough to source a replacement for Souttar.
If we do miss out on automatics, I think it will be the above mis-hap that will have been our major undoing (after the -2).
 
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