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and act now!

yes they are 3rd, but their board can see that the performances are shit, and they have acted before their season is over

reason for sacking - declining performances

we are in exactly the same position one league below, get blackwell out now, and maybe we can get something out of this season!

if not the decline will continue!
 

So now they have fired one of the best coaches/managers in the world. Where is the upside in that? Some folk have more money than sense, just another dumb business decision. Just underlines some of the stupidity of this game. Miracles are rare such as instant and sustainable success, but the world seems to be full of moppets who think it's a valid expectation. Sad news.
 
I would have stuck with avram grant he didnt do a bad job last year when mourinho went
 
I would never have forced Mourinho out. Best manager they've ever had, by a country mile. Abramovich should have kept his nose out and not forced him to buy Shevchenko.
 
So now they have fired one of the best coaches/managers in the world. Where is the upside in that? Some folk have more money than sense, just another dumb business decision. Just underlines some of the stupidity of this game. Miracles are rare such as instant and sustainable success, but the world seems to be full of moppets who think it's a valid expectation. Sad news.

To be fair, Scolari has achieved absolutely nothing in European club football and his only notable success was with a team with the best players in the world.

I would suggest that his coaching credentials can only be judged when he is in charge of a team day in and day out and as such his failure at Chelsea is a more true indication of his ability then his time with Brazil or Portugal.

He did not get long enough to make the team his own but he knew that would be the case when he took the job and as such i don't think he can have too many complaints.
 
I think the owners are now so obsessed with the Champions League that any Chelsea manager that doesn't instantly win it is a gonner....As for 'take a leaf out of Chelseas book', they've sacked some of the best managers in the world in the recent past and gone backwards. :rolleyes:
 
Surprised by Scolari's sacking but if Blackwell was sacked I think some fans would be glad and some wouldn't, even though I would be delighted :D
 
To be fair,
I would suggest that his coaching credentials can only be judged when he is in charge of a team day in and day out and as such his failure at Chelsea is a more true indication of his ability

Seems to me describing the current performance at Chelsea as a failure sets a standard none can meet. Guess that's why Real Madrid can't keep coaches either. At some point we have to get real, players get injured, don't perform, do perform but hit the crossbar and the ball goes out rather than in (they lose). Only three teams go up from our league, so 100% of the naysayers at 90% of the clubs will be right. So the answer is to fire all losing managers? None of us can work in the real world under those sorts of expectations. While I understand the frustration I don't believe knee jerk reactions bring success.
 
The difference between us and chelsea though is that they can get anyone they want in. We can't
 
even if we did sack blackwell now who would we get to replace him??
 
yer but from what people are saying were a club going downhill..he wouldnt want to leave a club on the up to come to us.. there arent many mangers that would be good enough to come in and turn us around qucik enough for us to keep are place in the play offs
 

Curbishley?

so you reckon hell turn down an offer from portsmouth to come manage us... its gaurenteed they will at least approach him and hell be one of the top targets that they want.. doubt hell tunr them down to come manage us to be fair.
 
so you reckon hell turn down an offer from portsmouth to come manage us... its gaurenteed they will at least approach him and hell be one of the top targets that they want.. doubt hell tunr them down to come manage us to be fair.

Why is it guaranteed he will be approached by Pompey?

Curbishley is not a bad shout, even if he is a Hammer, I'm sure both him and the club can see past all that has happened in relation to allegiance to a club.

Other managers we could possibly get....

Paul Ince isn't too bad of a shout - I'm sure we would see more football that is pleasing on the eye.

O'driscoll is another possibility, as is Martinez.

There are more out there that are plausible solutions - so it's not like nobody is available.
 
I would like to see a replacement for Blackwell, i don't think he has the tactical nouse to manage at this level, he's a league 2 manager at best, from my personal opinion.

However, we have to look at whether to replace him realistically. McCabe gave Blackie a contract extension recently so sacking him would be expensive, which will effect any money available to bring a new manager in, be that through wages, or compensation, if the targetted manager already has a current club. Not to mention potential transfer monies.

Bearing all this in mind we can way up potential targets:

Paul Ince - Not with a club so not compensation payable, would however require a sizable salary, because he's Paul Ince, and would no doubt want to bring in his own players.

Roberto Martinez - Compo would be payable, and i think he recently signed a new deal with the Swans so could be sizeable. However i think he wouldn't command a massive wage and has shown at Swansea you don't need to spend to create a decent footballing side.

Alan Curbishley - As stated in todays rags, he may have issues taking on another club at the moment as he is suing West Ham for £1.5mill. That said, he would command massive wages and a big transfer budget, coupled with the fact he's always stated that West Ham weren't in the wrong over the Tevez affair, which makes it a non-starter.

Alan Pardew - Despite his success at Reading, didn't really pull up any trees at West Ham and subsequently demolished Charlton into relegation fodder. Would be on decent wages and a massive risk.

Tony Adams - NO!

Neil Warnock - Would welcome him back kindly, even just to stabilise things. Unfortunately i think his relationship with McCabe would not be the same and for that reason the appointment it wouldn't work. Also, Simon Jordan being who he is, would want a massive compensation fee!

Gary Speed - This would more like the appointment McCabe would look to. Already knows the club, but new enough to the game to bring in his own ideas. Similar to the appointment of Blackwell, but with Speed's success in the game and method of playing could transfer to the Management side. Big gamble however, we all know that most great players don't make great managers.

Joe Royle - Is a possibility, been around a while, knows the game well. Would be similar to the Kendall appointment years ago. Would want sizeable wages i would think, but could be a masterstroke.

Venables, Hoddle etc - NO

Feel free to add any others to said list!

My thoughts anyway, feel free to discuss! :D
 
Another quickie on this subject. If you look on the LMA website there is a drop down box towards the bottom with available managers. Some interesting names on that list.

http://www.leaguemanagers.com/index.html

Good find :thumbup:

A few straight from there are potential to do something good.

John Gregory
Ian Holloway
Aidy Boothroyd (as assistant manager only ;) )
David O'Leary
Bryan Robson ;)
Luca Vialli
 
Ince gets my vote although I think Blackwell should be given more time to prove he has listened to the important fans, we played some decent stuff last season after he arrived so he can direct the players to do just that.

I also think we shouldn't boo the team or the manager during games, we are supporters yes frustrated ones, but there to support, yes they have been shite and saturday was one of the most disappointing games I have been to in years
 
Agree with the booing thing, that helps nobody!

The only thing that bothers me is how else do fans show their discontent at current matters?
 
One of the most worrying things about Blackie (That was his name at the start of the season, now the most polite thing he gets called is Blackwell) is that when he was No.2 to Warnock, he was often referred to (by Warnock) as obsessed by the tactical side. Supposedly he would ring up at all hours with ideas on this, that and the other. Now we only seem to have one tactic and he is incapable of changing that. What has gone wrong?
 

Chelsea will finish up looking like clowns this season. They will join a lengthening list of clubs who change managers more often than Foxy downloads drool pics of Maxime ;)

In the end it doesn't work, simple! The owner thinks he's due the success he thinks he's bought. Doesn't work like that, never will (though Citeh, might prove it wrong next season).

Realism of expectation has died a Murdoch-inspired death. Success and success NOW, is the order of the day for certain in the top two divisions, whatever that success may be. In some cases this has got to the point where the managers job is almost a revolving door or the opposite extreme of that is such unrealistic expectations that the job is almost impossible, step forward Newcastle and soon to arrive Chelsea. I don't want the Blades in the same category, but do detect that we may well be heading in that direction (whether that has been stirred by the chairman and the board or not) and that saddens me greatly. Bramall Lane was always known for lengthy appointments for managers (John Harris, Dave Bassett, Neil Warnock to name 3) but that seems to be disappearing rapidly. Seems to be the way of the football world now, although the most successful club in the land bucks the trend bigstyle!
 

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