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We suffered from being amongst the first clubs to convert their traditional home standing area to seating, we were a template of how not to do it. ( bizarrely the pigs made the same error)

Serves 'em right for obsessively copying everything we do!
 



Until “safe standing” arrives the atmosphere isn’t going to improve, the Kop is badly designed (too shallow) which prevents any long term standing in the seats.

We suffered from being amongst the first clubs to convert their traditional home standing area to seating, we were a template of how not to do it. ( bizarrely the pigs made the same error)

The whole structure needs knocking down and rebuilding with a safe standing area AT THE FRONT with seating behind.

The Kop's an absolute heap of shite.

If the person in front of you is 2 inches taller, get ready to spend 90 minutes on your toes. That's no exaggeration.

How the geniuses who designed it didn't consider this is baffling.
 
The Kop's an absolute heap of shite.

If the person in front of you is 2 inches taller, get ready to spend 90 minutes on your toes. That's no exaggeration.

How the geniuses who designed it didn't consider this is baffling.
It wasn’t designed, just dropped on top of the original structure, which was designed for standing.
 
Leaving early is something I’ve never done. Personal choice, just as leaving early is a personal choice.

I’ve heard this same debate on radio stations, even on national ones like Talk Sport. Bores me to tears. Makes no difference to anything and has nothing to do with anyone else. If someone wants to leave early that’s their prerogative. Many of those people may have personal circumstances that require it, some may just want to beat the traffic. Who cares?! It’s none of anyone else’s business.

I don’t do it because 1. I’ve paid for the ticket and 2. I want to watch until the end anyway. If someone else wants to do different, that’s up to them, it’s their money, their life. Leave them alone.
 
I've only ever left a match early once, FA cup a 3-0 defeat to the then league 1 Swansea, think it was in our premier league season too. That was a truly dreadful game, and chuffin freezin. Leaving when we're winning or still in the game though: that's just stupid. If you sit near me and decide to leave early be warned: I will give you a dirty look and may even resort to tutting, so be afraid.
 
24,000 v Wigan isn't bad, maybe a bit quiet at times but we were a bit below par today. It will be interesting to see how the crowds are after we have done the old half season tickets i'm predicting a healthy increase in numbers after Xmas.
 
Season ticket sales determines the attendance figures more and more nowadays
Hardly anyone buys tickets for the games individually. Over and above the 5000 or so that usually do it that way hardly anybody else does.
As well as it being easier to get into Fort Knox and the launch room in the Kremlin than a football stadium

To get season tickets sales up the club has to impress the fans during the summer, and United didn't.
Regardless of how things are turning out, visitors, exiles and those without season tickets find it more trouble than it's worth
We're down on season tickets this season mainly because the ownership of the club was up in the air at the time as it still is of course, Wilders comments about his future came at a time when season tickets were on sale.That alongside the possibe lack of finance to support him led to quite a few fans not renewing during the early bird period,I'm talking of the new ones we picked up after promotion
we picked up a fair number with the half season ticket which will probably happen again this season if we keep up our present run of form.
We have a great hard core of fans but also ( like all clubs ) have a lot of good time Charlie's who soon lose interest when things look like going pearshaped.
The longer we sustain the good times the bigger the crowds will grow and the hard core will also grow,but the good times have to be sustained for a good length of time .
 
Leaving early is something I’ve never done. Personal choice, just as leaving early is a personal choice.

I’ve heard this same debate on radio stations, even on national ones like Talk Sport. Bores me to tears. Makes no difference to anything and has nothing to do with anyone else. If someone wants to leave early that’s their prerogative. Many of those people may have personal circumstances that require it, some may just want to beat the traffic. Who cares?! It’s none of anyone else’s business.

I don’t do it because 1. I’ve paid for the ticket and 2. I want to watch until the end anyway. If someone else wants to do different, that’s up to them, it’s their money, their life. Leave them alone.
Nobody is disputing that they can do what they like, just as I / we can feel what we like about them doing it (aside from the last 10 minutes of the game are ruined by constant standing / sitting).

But what can’t be disputed is that it’s not an act of supporting the team, as the OP raised. The old art of vocally supporting the team, to the end, was an undisputed advantage. Leaving in droves because letting the cat out or whatever is more important is clearly just the opposite.
 
Only left early once ever and that was because we were late finishing and I had to get to work for nights. Once for a special reason maybe but it’s the same people all the time I just don’t get it.
My Mum made me leave early v Chelsea under Bassett. It was 1-1 and we heard the winner 2 mins after leaving. I still bring it up 20 odd years later
 



‘Only’ 24,000? At home to Wigan - hardly a glamour club with lots of fans - that’s pretty good.
No issues with the total figure at all. But with 24k there, how much extra time would it really take if people stayed till the end?
 
The Kop's an absolute heap of shite.

If the person in front of you is 2 inches taller, get ready to spend 90 minutes on your toes. That's no exaggeration.

How the geniuses who designed it didn't consider this is baffling.
Any big game I have massive bruises on my shins the day after from leaning forward stood up
 
Can you not even get a ticket for some nothing game in the cup these days without paying £25 to register?
You can if you get a member to buy your ticket and you have your name and address registered. Wife has insisted on coming to the derby
 
The atmosphere is shite to be fair, the South Stand, which is where I have to sit due to my old man, has never been notorious but F, G and H block used to be decent a few years back and generate a bit of noise. Now that’s quiet as fuck. Perhaps they’ve cleared the ‘hoolies’ out so we’re left with nice people, which is nice, but perhaps nice people aren’t as vocal. I don’t know.
 
The atmosphere is shite to be fair, the South Stand, which is where I have to sit due to my old man, has never been notorious but F, G and H block used to be decent a few years back and generate a bit of noise. Now that’s quiet as fuck. Perhaps they’ve cleared the ‘hoolies’ out so we’re left with nice people, which is nice, but perhaps nice people aren’t as vocal. I don’t know.
TBF we've all been PC'd now, no shouting, swearing, chanting of oppositions defaults (pc). We as Men have been well and truly silenced. We will not move away from this, in fact it will only become worse.
 
The atmosphere is shite to be fair, the South Stand, which is where I have to sit due to my old man, has never been notorious but F, G and H block used to be decent a few years back and generate a bit of noise. Now that’s quiet as fuck. Perhaps they’ve cleared the ‘hoolies’ out so we’re left with nice people, which is nice, but perhaps nice people aren’t as vocal. I don’t know.
You’ve hit the nail on the head mate.
 
You have to register. In person. Or you need to know details of this person such as his postcode which I didn't. I don't have the patience to to waste my time with jobsworths these days. You can buy a ticket for the cinema or just about any other club in the league without having to go through this bollocks.
Couldn't you just make up a post code? I bet I could have got a ticket. May have had to spin a line, but I would have got one.
 
TBF we've all been PC'd now, no shouting, swearing, chanting of oppositions defaults (pc). We as Men have been well and truly silenced. We will not move away from this, in fact it will only become worse.

On TV commentary now if the pitch side mic picks up any “bad” language the commentator is told to “apologise if you were offended”.

It’s all gone to crap...
 
Guy to the right of me decided it was time to leave at 74:42! His ~12 ish year old kid looked gutted when they came past me. Ridiculous.
 



I think if you've paid your money, you can leave whenever you want.... but leave the ground ffs! I'll admit that I used to have to leave early because the person giving me a lift home was an early leaver (albeit only when the injury time board went up) but what used to piss me off is the standing at the top of the stairs... you save yourself about 2 minutes doing that, what's the point? Just stay in your seats
 
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