Support for Chris Wilder thread

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To finish, he does have my 100% support for now

Mine too. Unless we are on or near the bottom by around November, I'd say he has to be given time - two full seasons if necessary.

At the start of the season I'd have settled for play offs, the way it's looking now I would settle for mid table, and then push on next season rather than sacking yet another manager.
 



I support him now and I suspect I will be among the last ones left supporting him, given the fucking schizophrenic outlook that now defines this fan base.
 
How can he have 100% support from anyone?? Blind faith? All this "he'll definitely turn it around"?

I certainly want him to succeed, he has plenty of experience and a proven track record. So despite a much worse start than Adkins, I hope, nay expect, things to improve.

But I am amazed that posters are so sure and convinced of this, based on the shambles I have watched so far this season.
 
Indeed.........probably the same ones that were salivating over Adkins.

UTB

Not ashamed to say I backed Adkins, and still don't go along the accepted certainty that he was so awful. And am irked by the double standards applied to the situation by some.

And for the same reason (and not because he supports our club) he hasy support. But not 100%, I really don't know where the blind loyalty comes from.
 
I believe, although I don't believe many do, that your statement above is 100% correct.

I also believe that CW knows it too.

To finish, he does have my 100% support for now - some have said "give him time"............fine............but it still doesn't alter the fact of some glaring errors in player purchases, pre-season poor management and tactical errors that have littered the first 3 months tenure.

There is no place for sentiment at any football club, Blades fan or not as Micky Adams sadly found out.

6 years in this shithole of a division, and after a few games is almost certainly pointing to a 7th.

UTB

Great post.
 
It's not a bad point from fulwood, but hasn't Alan knill been a manager in his own right?... So there's two sharing the burden, can it really be to much for two experienced football men??

He'll get a lot more time, but he really has to make tough decisions now, sharp and Clarke isn't working, if I was him, I'd start there...
 
It's not a bad point from fulwood, but hasn't Alan knill been a manager in his own right?... So there's two sharing the burden, can it really be to much for two experienced football men??

He'll get a lot more time, but he really has to make tough decisions now, sharp and Clarke isn't working, if I was him, I'd start there...

You are correct - time for some very tough decisions.

1) The defence is useless - and as well as Freeman can play going forward, he will add nothing to the defending side of it. For me he should only leave O'Connell as long as someone very experienced is at CB with him.
2) Basham in CM - CW backed himself into a corner by saying Brayford/Basham and Sharp were his senior pros. There is enough opinion that says he should drop Basham and Sharp (and as we all know, Brayford has now gone)
3) Done not in midfield - hopefully that little experiment will never be repeated.
4) Decide if he sticks or twists with Sharp and Clarke can in fact play together
5) what formation?

UTB
 
There's no doubt that of all the managers we have had in recent times, failure will hurt Wilder more than any of the others. You can see the pain on his face already. He needs the backing of the fans.

Sadly, all be it we have only played 5 games in total, we can't have done much worse than we have. The whole place needs a lift.

He is under massive pressure now, if we start moving towards Christmas and loitering around the bottom half, I'd say McCabe will be getting an itchy trigger finger.

The simple fact here is who the hell do we turn to if Wilder isn't the man?! It's not like we haven't had enough managers have a go is it?
 
What does Alan Curbishley know compared to some of the anti Wilder brigade on here!

Wilder is a top young manager and Utd are lucky to have him...(and he is also bloody lucky to be manager of our great club). Id give up my left testicle to be manager of Utd cos i love this club warts n all.

Wilder gets my backing all the way. Top manager. And whats more once we win a couple and get the ball rolling i can see Utd being a decent side fairly quickly (signings still needed though i admit).
 
Just adding the list of fans that are 100% behind Wilder. I'm convinced we have the right man, at the right time, to finally get us moving up the league.
It may take a few more games for him to get the winning formula with this squad (plus additions), but once we get rolling, I reckon it could well be a joyous ride.
 
Just adding the list of fans that are 100% behind Wilder. I'm convinced we have the right man, at the right time, to finally get us moving up the league.
It may take a few more games for him to get the winning formula with this squad (plus additions), but once we get rolling, I reckon it could well be a joyous ride.
 
I am behind him and the team as long as they put some effort in and look like they are bothered. Its the cannot be arsed attitude that gets me mad. Last year that's about all we saw.
 



For me, I’m absolutely supporting him. I cannot quite believe we’re showing the hysteria we are after 4 games! Yes, we’re bottom, yes it is our worst start in 21 years but are we really that surprised? What has changed at all, to warrant expectations of a flying start to the season? I said it in the summer, the appointment of Wilder, the naming of Sharp as captain and the quick signings of Hussey and Duffy within the space of a week were an attempt to give the false hope of a ‘new dawn’. To me, I wasn’t convinced and it was too much ‘same owd, same owd’. This is largely a very similar side to the one that was very mediocre at the end of last season.
  • Noone wanted the cast-offs and transfer listed players, who are eating into his budget – nowt he can do about that, it’s mismanagement from before but his hands are pretty much tied because of it
  • There’s no bite in midfield
  • There’s little creativity out wide
  • There’s sod all supply to the one area where we are strong, the strikers.
  • There’s no balance in the backline
  • And no leaders in the defence
  • He's had his best youngster sold
And of course, you could level at me in reply, “well it’s Wilder’s job to sort all of that” and you’d be right – be he isn’t going to remedy all of that in one summer, he isn’t going to be able to fix years of fuck-uppery from the very top in one transfer window. In which other profession would you be given a matter of mere weeks to turn a failing business around? Very few. The gaps were just too huge, but he is starting to attempt to fill them:
  1. Some proven width and thread out wide – Duffy
  2. More proven goal threat – Clarke
  3. A promising centre half who needs some quality alongside him – O’Connell
Most importantly of all, he is still fighting to instill that spine of the side that he so desperately needs, hence the additions of Moore, hence the 100-page thread and supposed pursuit of Morsy, hence openly admitting he still wants a centre-half. As I’ve said before, we already have the players to compliment a spine to the side (Fleck, Duffy, Done, Chapman etc) but we don’t have the spine in itself. These are all good players who don’t become bad players over night, but they aren’t the leaders themselves, they are the ones which benefit from playing alongside a leader. A Morgan, Monty, even a Doyle would be rallying them a little more than they are already.

But because of the lack of a spine, because of the flaws listed in the bullet points above, he’s forced to continue to do the very things he didn’t want to do, for example:
  1. Play square pegs in round holes (e.g. Scougall out wide)
  2. Not play Done up front, which I think he would rather
  3. Play a ‘supporting cast’ as the spine of the side
  4. Rely on a back-up centre half in the first XI
No other manager would be able to avoid these conundrums at present; he simply does not have the players at his disposal to do what he wants to do. His principles are sound, as too is his attitude, and whilst they say a workman should never blame his tools, sadly exactly that applies here – and chuff me, does he have a lot of tools. Admittedly, he isn’t flawless and he could help himself by making subs earlier, or playing football rather than hoof ball with a team of midgets, but calling for Wilder’s head simply isn’t the solution, at all. Because to do that would be to worsen the situation further and write off the whole summer and start again.

The bloke is straight talking, doesn’t take any bullshit – can clearly get the board to part with a bob or two on recent evidence (Clarke, Moore) and for me, that’s a start – it’s better than what we’ve been used to. It may not be the be all and end all, but it is better. He has my support.

KIMD.

With all that you have said here, I'm with you! Have a big 'like' from me!
 
I can't believe we are even discussing it. He is 4 games in, inherited a toxic team from two discarded managers and a policy of sell before you really buy. He had players who were clogging up the salary budget. He has had a group of fans turn on his own players. He has a chairman who frankly has had enough but can't sell and lose money. He has turned the team inside out and some of us expect a Barcelona/Ajax dynasty to develop overnight. He has no youth really coming through, despite how much we hope. He has had some players with poor attitude and some with no attitude.

A battleship doesn't turn in a day and we should look at what has been achieved in the time he has been with us.

Come on, we all want more points but getting at Chris and the team isn't the way to do it.

We won't romp this league with what we have but when we are settled and supported more by loyal fans we might just make a good go of it.

UTB
 
There has been lots of great posts and yes, I support Wilder in his campaing!
 
He and the team have my support now and Saturday afternoon from my seat. However, I would argue the majority of performance's so far have been diabolical. He simply won't last long if that does not improve. We are not creating anywhere near enough.
 
Chris has "had a struggle since the start of the season, that's the top and bottom of it" (his own words on Long). I'll support him until such time as it is not in the interests of Sheffield United to do so. That said he has a mountain to climb, mostly (but not entirely) not of his own making.
 
Let's not pretend it is ever going to be easy managing SUFC. 6 seasons in the third tier and last season finishing mid table, terrible for a club of our size and standing. Fans are desperate for some success.

Too many lazy players last season and a lot of the ones up for sale had no takers.

Lads coming in now on a shoe string budget, and promising youngsters sold.

The Brayford move confused a lot of the fans; not his idea to leave, the manager's idea.

George Long being given a break after four games and Wilder saying publicly that he can leave if he wants to.

Clarke and Sharp not gelling up front (not all that surprising since Billy had Leon by the scruff of the neck last season after Leon gave him some "afters" when they both ended up on the deck, after a bad tempered challenge), and the manager takes off Sharp, who he chose to be club Captain.

Maybe this is just how CW stamps his authority on a team? I don't know.

I never "boo" at matches, I always back the lads and the manager. I will continue to back SUFC because as I always say, the players and the manager are just the present incumbents of the shirt, five years from now it will be all new faces, the team changes, the manager changes but the club doesn't. The fans are here for life.

Come on CW and AK, have a proper pep talk with the lads, get them revved up like Harry Basset and Neil Warnock used to, if the team give everything the fans will get behind them in a positive way.

I am not panicking yet but I won't pretend I am not nervous, we need to recreate the Bolton form from the opening day, play with that intensity.
 
There has been lots of great posts and yes, I support Wilder in his campaing!

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Let's cut the fella some slack. The guy is clearly feeling the pressure and isn't going to get any better at his job with the fans on his back. He's a Blade desperate to succeed as we all are. He's worked (and been pretty successful) all his life in the lower echelons. This is a massive step up for him in terms of stature and expectation (if not league position) and whilst he clearly would have known this, knowing and experiencing are not the same thing. He knows as we all do that results haven't been good so far. Performances haven't been great but, barring a 30 min nightmare, they haven't been diabolical. Not too far form what you might expect form a side bedding in a new defence and 7/8 new signings in fact.

Chris, I'm behind you as are thousands of us. Replicate the intensity of those 1st 30 mins at Bolton and the results will come. I'd be shitting it too if I'd spent all my life racing stock cars and suddenly had to take on an F1 car with a dodgy clutch and wonky steering.

You'll get this right pal. UTB.
He's wank. The only man to get is out of this shit is warnock. Chris wilder is just another Micky Adams.
 
Bernard and Sid . Saw them play football once in a charity game . At the moment they would give Billy and Clarke a good run .

In saying that Kenneth Wiiliams and Charles Houtrey would do the same with Basham and Coutts

It's one of those funny things in life, people like certain actors and dislike certain actors, but I have never met anyone in over 50 years who didn't like Sid James!

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I've reached that point of fake promises/aspirations and outright lies where I really couldn't give a shit about Wilder's future.

I'm fed up of being lied to.
 



It's one of those funny things in life, people like certain actors and dislike certain actors, but I have never met anyone in over 50 years who didn't like Sid James!

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Agree with you . Lady's man Sid James was . Makes me smile .

Him and Hatty Jaques were a item .

Always makes me laugh when he complains in a sit com that Sheffield United buggered his pools coupon up .

Wilder needs to start smiling and laughing again which a win will help .
 

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