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Let's cut the fella some slack. The guy is clearly feeling the pressure and isn't going to get any better at his job with the fans on his back. He's a Blade desperate to succeed as we all are. He's worked (and been pretty successful) all his life in the lower echelons. This is a massive step up for him in terms of stature and expectation (if not league position) and whilst he clearly would have known this, knowing and experiencing are not the same thing. He knows as we all do that results haven't been good so far. Performances haven't been great but, barring a 30 min nightmare, they haven't been diabolical. Not too far form what you might expect form a side bedding in a new defence and 7/8 new signings in fact.

Chris, I'm behind you as are thousands of us. Replicate the intensity of those 1st 30 mins at Bolton and the results will come. I'd be shitting it too if I'd spent all my life racing stock cars and suddenly had to take on an F1 car with a dodgy clutch and wonky steering.

You'll get this right pal. UTB.
 



I like the guy and his frankness. We'd have all liked to have kicked on in the second half on Saturday against a fairly average Millwall side, but confidence is clearly pretty low, and it would have been a pretty decent point to take back up the M1. I'm sure if confidence was higher then we may well have gone for it, but I can understand why we sat back a bit - and if it wasn't for a bizarre decision by O'Connell we may well have got the draw.

Makes the job on Saturday that bit harder, but we've a full week of training, and I'm sure he'd like to do nothing more than put one over his old club, getting his first win at the Lane in the process.
 
Let's cut the fella some slack. The guy is clearly feeling the pressure and isn't going to get any better at his job with the fans on his back. He's a Blade desperate to succeed as we all are. He's worked (and been pretty successful) all his life in the lower echelons. This is a massive step up for him in terms of stature and expectation (if not league position) and whilst he clearly would have known this, knowing and experiencing are not the same thing. He knows as we all do that results haven't been good so far. Performances haven't been great but, barring a 30 min nightmare, they haven't been diabolical. Not too far form what you might expect form a side bedding in a new defence and 7/8 new signings in fact.

Chris, I'm behind you as are thousands of us. Replicate the intensity of those 1st 30 mins at Bolton and the results will come. I'd be shitting it too if I'd spent all my life racing stock cars and suddenly had to take on an F1 car with a dodgy clutch and wonky steering.

You'll get this right pal. UTB.
Totally agree mate. I've been a Blade for over half a century and seen my share of ups and downs, believe me having watched them in all 4 divisions.
I do feel that in recent times there is a tendency to jump on the slightest mistake and this must unsettle players. Don't get me wrong we have not been good enough and have been stuck in this miserable league for far too long. Fans were quite rightly calling for change and a good clear out and whilst it is frustrating to see where we are at the moment, we have to believe that the team with maybe a couple more additions will start to gel and start to climb up this league.
I tell my grandson about having followed them in all 4 divisions and sincerely hope that he doesn't have to follow suit. Come on fellow Blades let's look to a brighter future.
 
Totally behind Wilder. I think that the team isn't as good as he first thought it would be and now he's having to sign more players than originally he wanted and in the meantime we're short and having to bed in several new players. One or two quality additions will make all the difference like Moore did on Saturday. I think the new signings already here will settle and improve, although one or two will be out onto the bench too, because they're not currently good enough. That's understandable with so many signings that some come off, some don't. Its not as if last season's players that have played have excelled either, but maybe Freeman can be the exception, and of course he's not played until Saturday either. He'll no doubt get a run now in the side and maybe Coutts, unless he leaves, which he probably will! Basham for me needs to be on the bench, but sadly we have a total lack of competition in that area and clearly Wilder doesn't think the youth are ready either in that area.

Back to Wilder, and I just think that we need to be patient and realise that unlike last season, when things were obvious that we weren't good enough, this season Wilder knows it and is doing something about it, in trying to sign players that are proven at this level. Jake Wright and Wilson are probably the two least proven at League One, but the rest are, particularly Moore, O'Connell, Duffy and Clarke. We clearly need pace and when that happens I believe we'll be a different side.
 
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I don't think I have heard one person blame him yet.

But he needs to win at least one of the next three games otherwise whatever supportive sentiments are raised just like all managers he will be made to carry the can.
 
I don't think I have heard one person blame him yet.

But he needs to win at least one of the next three games otherwise whatever supportive sentiments are raised just like all managers he will be made to carry the can.

I think a few on here have said that he is to blame with his poor signings. I'm not going to trawl through them but I recall a few now saying that, but personally I think they need more time to gel.
 
I'm also 100% behind him.

It helps that I actually like the guy. A genuine bloke trying his best that cares about the club.

To be honest I felt the same about Danny Wilson too.
Didn't buy into the "he's a ex pig so we don't want him" thing.
Thought he was really dignified and a gentleman through out his time at BL.
 
I would crawl over broken glass for this club. I believe Wilder would do the same. I'll always support him for that alone.

He's been sold down the river like every other manager we have had, by a board who don't know a knacker about football.
We are fucked, rotten to the core. But Wilder is not the man to blame.
 
I think a few on here have said that he is to blame with his poor signings. I'm not going to trawl through them but I recall a few now saying that, but personally I think they need more time to gel.

I was referring more to voices in the stands at match days. I don't think the crowd will turn on him, they may turn on the board which will in effect come down on Wilder as they aren't going to take the blame themselves and resign.
 



He is the best we have had since the other W's (Weir excepted).
He inherited a poor team with a few decent players but with the instruction to get rid.
I hope he makes it - there are no alternatives.

UTB
 
Come on.
Fuckin' what's happenin'?

No "Tufty" ...
you's lot are losin' it.

Six years in L1 and we employ a manager who's NEVER managed at this level, has shown so far that his ineptness far greater outweighs his ability to show any signs of change, especially where it matters, on the pitch for 90+ minutes.

If he wasn't a "Blade" there'd be many of you stickin' pins in that replica doll.

Only going one way on the evidence provided so far.

I'm not out... I was never in.
 
For me, I’m absolutely supporting him. I cannot quite believe we’re showing the hysteria we are after 4 games! Yes, we’re bottom, yes it is our worst start in 21 years but are we really that surprised? What has changed at all, to warrant expectations of a flying start to the season? I said it in the summer, the appointment of Wilder, the naming of Sharp as captain and the quick signings of Hussey and Duffy within the space of a week were an attempt to give the false hope of a ‘new dawn’. To me, I wasn’t convinced and it was too much ‘same owd, same owd’. This is largely a very similar side to the one that was very mediocre at the end of last season.
  • Noone wanted the cast-offs and transfer listed players, who are eating into his budget – nowt he can do about that, it’s mismanagement from before but his hands are pretty much tied because of it
  • There’s no bite in midfield
  • There’s little creativity out wide
  • There’s sod all supply to the one area where we are strong, the strikers.
  • There’s no balance in the backline
  • And no leaders in the defence
  • He's had his best youngster sold
And of course, you could level at me in reply, “well it’s Wilder’s job to sort all of that” and you’d be right – be he isn’t going to remedy all of that in one summer, he isn’t going to be able to fix years of fuck-uppery from the very top in one transfer window. In which other profession would you be given a matter of mere weeks to turn a failing business around? Very few. The gaps were just too huge, but he is starting to attempt to fill them:
  1. Some proven width and thread out wide – Duffy
  2. More proven goal threat – Clarke
  3. A promising centre half who needs some quality alongside him – O’Connell
Most importantly of all, he is still fighting to instill that spine of the side that he so desperately needs, hence the additions of Moore, hence the 100-page thread and supposed pursuit of Morsy, hence openly admitting he still wants a centre-half. As I’ve said before, we already have the players to compliment a spine to the side (Fleck, Duffy, Done, Chapman etc) but we don’t have the spine in itself. These are all good players who don’t become bad players over night, but they aren’t the leaders themselves, they are the ones which benefit from playing alongside a leader. A Morgan, Monty, even a Doyle would be rallying them a little more than they are already.

But because of the lack of a spine, because of the flaws listed in the bullet points above, he’s forced to continue to do the very things he didn’t want to do, for example:
  1. Play square pegs in round holes (e.g. Scougall out wide)
  2. Not play Done up front, which I think he would rather
  3. Play a ‘supporting cast’ as the spine of the side
  4. Rely on a back-up centre half in the first XI
No other manager would be able to avoid these conundrums at present; he simply does not have the players at his disposal to do what he wants to do. His principles are sound, as too is his attitude, and whilst they say a workman should never blame his tools, sadly exactly that applies here – and chuff me, does he have a lot of tools. Admittedly, he isn’t flawless and he could help himself by making subs earlier, or playing football rather than hoof ball with a team of midgets, but calling for Wilder’s head simply isn’t the solution, at all. Because to do that would be to worsen the situation further and write off the whole summer and start again.

The bloke is straight talking, doesn’t take any bullshit – can clearly get the board to part with a bob or two on recent evidence (Clarke, Moore) and for me, that’s a start – it’s better than what we’ve been used to. It may not be the be all and end all, but it is better. He has my support.
 
Come on.
Fuckin' what's happenin'?

No "Tufty" ...
you's lot are losin' it.

Six years in L1 and we employ a manager who's NEVER managed at this level, has shown so far that his ineptness far greater outweighs his ability to show any signs of change, especially where it matters, on the pitch for 90+ minutes.

If he wasn't a "Blade" there'd be many of you stickin' pins in that replica doll.

Only going one way on the evidence provided so far.

I'm not out... I was never in.

Who's your candidate?
 
I would crawl over broken glass for this club.

And that's why dannysufc_
those in charge at BDTBL are laughin' at you and many others.

No disrespect to you and those who feel the same. It's admirable, but nothing will ever change whilst Blades will take anything and everything given to them without a second thought.
 
If we do get relegated he's ironically probably the best man to manage us in League Two with the experience he has of that league.

Whether he would survive that happening is doubtful.

Personally I am doubtful he is the right man for this division and I have been doubtful from the day of the appointment.

That Doesn't mean I don't want to wrong and hope he can turn it around.
 
Chris Powell or Steve Cotterill would be decent candidates, both have had recent success in this division working with high expectations and vast squad changes.

Anyway support for Wilder certainly should not be unconditional, yes there are other underlying problems but they can't be changed overnight. If we are in a relegation struggle in six games time he has to go. Until then people should lay off him.
 
The board made it difficult for him from day one with the budget he was given, but it looks sadly as if he's made it even worse by performing poorly in the transfer market, putting together a squad that so far doesn't look like reaching mid-upper table, which is roughly where we could have expected to be on that budget.

On the other hand though, you could say that plenty of good players were available on frees and so he didn't actually need to spend much. Which negates the argument of those blaming McCabe, and would point to Wilder being at fault. But even then, I'd still argue that he was restricted wages-wise, and in terms of tribunal fees, which meant we couldn't compete with other clubs (like Oxford and Peterborough may I add) for the better players.
 



The board made it difficult for him from day one with the budget he was given

One of the first questions he should have asked.
What's the transfer budget?

He must've been happy with the answer given to take on the job.
Or did he accept because it's his dream to manage the club he supported/played for?

If that's the case, Billy Sharp will be manager in ten years.

Sorry, but if it's driven by ego... it's the wrong decision.
 

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