Sunderland have sold out their allocation

[SRBlade]

They’ve always been a very well supported club. Fair play to em.

Any club would be well supported if they shared a an area from Teeside up to Berwick with 1 other league club.

 

[him behind you]

Sure I also read somewhere that their fans weren't happy cos anyone with a membership number could buy 2 tickets. Horrible for them if true cos they've got enough season ticket holders to sell their wembley allocation.....but might explain why they are available for resale at extortionate prices. Maybe touts have got hold of some of theirs.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Have they sold the full 40k

 

[jimmymuir]

Have they sold the full 40k

Thought we got 35k each?

 

[CarlMcBlade]

Thought we got 35k each?

With the option of an extra 5k…By virtue of their crowds sizes, they might have been given it straight off the bat.

 

[gaz kay]

No they havent
Ive been in a crowd of less than 15k at Roker Park

I was there for peter Reid's first game. Like you say there was about 14,000

 

[originaltrueblade]

So do we.

We have a chance they have no chance

 

[ATL Recs]

I was there for peter Reid's first game. Like you say there was about 14,000

I was there for peter Reid's first game. Like you say there was about 14,000

A wet cold Tuesday night in the 80s under 14000

 

[Cheesebored]

A wet cold Tuesday night in the 80s under 14000

I was there for this beauty....

 

[YES Blade]

I was there for peter Reid's first game. Like you say there was about 14,000

It’s what a new stadium can do to increase support, you’re always going to attract new fans to sit in a stadium with decent views and facilities.

 

[CarlMcBlade]

It’s what a new stadium can do to increase support, you’re always going to attract new fans to sit in a stadium with decent views and facilities.

Yes, I can’t remember Roker Park selling out all the time. It’s amazing how potential fanbases respond to nice facilities…Maybe something for BL expansion doubters to consider.

 

[Camden Blade]

Indeed.

And they went down as low as 8,000 for some matches in a period through the early 70’s and then again for several seasons in the late 80’s.

They are one of those clubs - and we all know of another one - where the gates can fluctuate wildly over a matter of weeks. For instance, in 1970/71 season, their league gates ranged from a high of 42,617 to a low of 8,596. Their average that season was just 15,780.

In the season that they won the FA Cup (72/73) they had a league crowd of 11,141, and the following season - as FA Cup holders - they had a league gate that dipped to 8,142.

Throughout the 70’s and 80’s, Sunderland’s gates were notable for the fact that there would in most seasons be a variance of 25-30,000 between their lowest gate and their highest. Sometimes the gap was as much as 35,000.

This would suggest that they have traditionally had a large number of supporters to call on for the big matches and special occasions, but that - in common with every club to a greater or lesser degree (other than Man U) - it can be quite fickle/soft.

Interesting. When I was at SoL the attendance looked a lot lower than the official attendance and there was zero atmosphere at the home end. They generally travel well however.

 

[ATL Recs]

Yes, I can’t remember Roker Park selling out all the time. It’s amazing how potential fanbases respond to nice facilities…Maybe something for BL expansion doubters to consider.

I will always argue that as well as Newcastle and Sunderland are supported ( now ) they have a fantastic catchment area, other than Boro the nearest competition is 100 Miles away Leeds -demographically it gives them both a massive advantage support wise

 

[Balham]

Interesting. When I was at SoL the attendance looked a lot lower than the official attendance and there was zero atmosphere at the home end. They generally travel well however.

Same as every club; the announced attendance is the number of tickets issued for the game, not the number of people in the ground.

 

[WORKSOPBLADE]

I was there for this beauty....

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And me!

 

[ryza]

They're a well supported club, fair play to em. Was absolute carnage at the stadium of light the other night. No doubt they probably have more fans than us with it being a one team city and all.

Already seen the Pigs x Black Cats friendship forming on social media, well I think it's mostly wednesday fans licking Sunderland's arse hoping they'll beat us / take more than us.

Gonna be a cracking day out for whoever's down at wembley that day anyway.

 

[MBH]

No they havent
Ive been in a crowd of less than 15k at Roker Park

At the time Sunderland were getting 15k at Roker Park, Newcastle United were getting about the same or even less. You are now talking about years ago when low attendances at English football matches were rife. Manchester United went down as low as 35k.

 

[Dark muffy]

and they would've sold more. Way more. Record numbers more and then double it

In fact they've already sold out their next play off final and they don't even know when it will be

They'd have booked more hotels and drunk more aswell

 

[BigBed]

Wednesday would have sold out quicker

Wednesday are so well supported, Wembley even have matches on that day of the week,in honour of them!

 

[MBH]

Indeed.

And they went down as low as 8,000 for some matches in a period through the early 70’s and then again for several seasons in the late 80’s.

They are one of those clubs - and we all know of another one - where the gates can fluctuate wildly over a matter of weeks. For instance, in 1970/71 season, their league gates ranged from a high of 42,617 to a low of 8,596. Their average that season was just 15,780.

In the season that they won the FA Cup (72/73) they had a league crowd of 11,141, and the following season - as FA Cup holders - they had a league gate that dipped to 8,142.

Throughout the 70’s and 80’s, Sunderland’s gates were notable for the fact that there would in most seasons be a variance of 25-30,000 between their lowest gate and their highest. Sometimes the gap was as much as 35,000.

This would suggest that they have traditionally had a large number of supporters to call on for the big matches and special occasions, but that - in common with every club to a greater or lesser degree (other than Man U) - it can be quite fickle/soft.

You are talking about a time when English football was not well supported and if we looked at Sheffield United's attendances at that time it would be interesting too see what we found. Some context around other clubs wouldn't go amiss. At one point Manchester United were down to 35000 - now it's 75000.

 

[MBH]

Aye they have a huge variation in attendances between when they're doing well and shite, we're fairly steady but then we are also limited by the size of our ground when we're doing really well

Tell me when Sunderland has ever been doing well? We have been shite for decades and have spent 2 spells in the third division. You talk as if we were once European and Premier League champions.

since first relegation in 1958 the highest we have ever been in the top flight is 7th - twice. We were once 10th and once 14th.

We have been utter gash in the top flight for decades now and I've seen us relegated 9 times since 1977. We have lost 8 out of our last 10 visits to Wembley.

We are currently getting 40000 plus crowds in the Championship, having not long come out of the third division where we averaged higher crowds than Leeds United - who BTW has never had a 40k average crowd in their entire history.

Currently and for a team that has not won a major domestic trophy since 1973 we have the 6th highest crowd in the second tier of all of UEFA's 55 leagues. Only 5 clubs in Germany, a country with a population of more than 80m have more than us.

 

[Gavlar]

Based on how many tickets were left when I bought 2 today we will sell out too.

 

[flashinblade1889]

I was there for peter Reid's first game. Like you say there was about 14,000

Was that the 1-1 game in 88 or 89?

 

[SwissBlade]

Tell me when Sunderland has ever been doing well? We have been shite for decades and have spent 2 spells in the third division. You talk as if we were once European and Premier League champions.

since first relegation in 1958 the highest we have ever been in the top flight is 7th - twice. We were once 10th and once 14th.

We have been utter gash in the top flight for decades now and I've seen us relegated 9 times since 1977. We have lost 8 out of our last 10 visits to Wembley.

I'm a Blade, doing well is relative. I'm not talking Champions League well.

I'm talking a bit of time in the Championship down to League 1, your attendances fluctuate from being packed to the rafters to half empty when i've seen on TV

 

[MBH]

I'm a Blade, doing well is relative. I'm not talking Champions League well.

I'm talking a bit of time in the Championship down to League 1, your attendances fluctuate from being packed to the rafters to half empty when i've seen on TV

what do you think of Leeds United's attendances? Thisll be interesting when you find out a few facts about them.

 

[MBH]

Here are Sheffield United's average attendances:

England historical attendance and performance

I dont see any average attendance of over 40000 at Sheffield United and barely see one over 30000.

there are a few too many football clubs fans who take the piss out of Sunderland's attendances, 6th highest second tier attendance in the entire European continent - and yet when their average attendances are exposed it doesn't look so great for those clubs then - does it?

Here's a one about Leeds United - did you know they have never had an average attendance of over 40000 in their entire history, even when their ground held that many. In the third division their fans deserted them and the highest average attendance they got was 26,000. Sunderland averaged over 30000 in league 1. Ironically LUFC got their highest ever attendance against....Sunderland.

So sunderland's average attendances this season are higher than both Leeds United and Sheffield United has ever had in their entire history.

If you want to take the piss out of Sunderland's crowds then fine - but we will make sure you have the context and the facts first.

there was never any need for this disrespectful conversation was there?

all you had to say was that Sunderland get canny crowds and leave it at that.

the entire championship - every club - could only dream of getting 46000 plus in their ground and 40000 attendances averages.

 

[Keef Chedwyn]

Here are Sheffield United's average attendances:

England historical attendance and performance

I dont see any average attendance of over 40000 at Sheffield United and barely see one over 30000.

there are a few too many football clubs who take the piss out of Sunderland's attendances, 6th highest second tier attendance in the entire European continent - and yet when their average attendances are exposed it doesn't look so great for those clubs then - does it?

Here's a one about Leeds United - did you know they have never had an average attendance of over 40000 in their entire history, even when their ground held that many. In the third division their fans deserted them and the highest average attendance they got was 26,000. Sunderland averaged over 30000 in league 1. Ironically LUFC got their highest ever attendance against....Sunderland.

So sunderland's average attendances this season are higher than both Leeds United and Sheffield United has ever had in their entire history.

If you want to take the piss out of Sunderland's crowds then fine - but we will make sure you have the context and the facts first.

there was never any need for this disrespectful conversation was there?

all you had to say was that Sunderland get canny crowds and leave it at that.

Bit touchy.

 

[UTB]

Pigs would have definitely sold out quicker and still managed to 3k to QPR on the same day.

 

[Sheffsteel]

Tell me when Sunderland has ever been doing well? We have been shite for decades and have spent 2 spells in the third division. You talk as if we were once European and Premier League champions.

since first relegation in 1958 the highest we have ever been in the top flight is 7th - twice. We were once 10th and once 14th.

We have been utter gash in the top flight for decades now and I've seen us relegated 9 times since 1977. We have lost 8 out of our last 10 visits to Wembley.

We are currently getting 40000 plus crowds in the Championship, having not long come out of the third division where we averaged higher crowds than Leeds United - who BTW has never had a 40k average crowd in their entire history.

Currently and for a team that has not won a major domestic trophy since 1973 we have the 6th highest crowd in the second tier of all of UEFA's 55 leagues. Only 5 clubs in Germany, a country with a population of more than 80m have more than us.

You sound like an old colleague I used to work with in the 90’s.

He was a born and bred Sunderland fan and he always used to challenge me to check the record books and stats comparing Newcastle and Sunderland.
He said the national media have a love affair with Newcastle United…massive club this massive club that….best fans this best fans that…who haven’t won anything for years.

However he used to tell me that Newcastle and Sunderland are very similar on almost every stat going and there’s hardly any difference regards the size of the clubs.
It was very clear he didn’t like Newcastle ha ha.

Its quite similar regards United and Wednesday, all the stats prove that Wednesday are historically bigger but many might be surprised to see how close it is regards size. Trophies, seasons in the top flight, historical attendances are quite similar but Wedneday edge it. However like Newcastle fans they really think they are one of the biggest clubs in England, when all the stats prove differently.

 

[Carlton Blade]

Wednesday would have sold out quicker

They sold out to big Tuna years ago