Stephen Bettis live on Football Heaven tonight (6-7pm)

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Balham said:
You're probably not far off

McGuinness £4-5m
Godfrey loan £3.5m (wages)
Matos £2-3m
Chong £2-3m
Ings/Mee signing on fees £1-2m
Soumaré loan £1m

The only one who has even a remote chance of repaying his transfer fee is Soumaré.
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Permanent deals for Chong and McGuinnes.. two awful footballers 😡
 



Fjortoft's Aeroplane said:
We got around £12m for Souza. and a further £2m for Kieffer Moore.

So even if Anel and Tanganga cancel each other out, there's no way we forked out anywhere near £14m on the other dross.
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Fjortoft if we ever find out what we paid for Matos I think there will be a collective gulp very similar to the one we all emitted when we heard we had paid 10m for Cannon. A Chelsea academy player with 20 appearances in the championship for Oxford will have cost a lot more than hes so far looked worth! Add a couple of million here and a couple there for the others and I bet most if not all that 14m was spent
 
UddersBlade said:
I expect COH to bail out inside next 12 months. Would not be surprised if the process to sell has not started already.
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Completely agree with this. Seems obvious they purchased solely with a view to grabbing the riches of the EPL. I reckon if they can get their money back they will be off like a shot!
 
UddersBlade said:
I expect COH to bail out inside next 12 months. Would not be surprised if the process to sell has not started already.
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It would not surprise me if that thought is already high on the agenda or discussed very recently. Trouble is,their investment has already fallen. We had players that were worth something earlier last season,now there is no player that would command decent money.
 
FriethBlade said:
Fjortoft if we ever find out what we paid for Matos I think there will be a collective gulp very similar to the one we all emitted when we heard we had paid 10m for Cannon. A Chelsea academy player with 20 appearances in the championship for Oxford will have cost a lot more than hes so far looked worth! Add a couple of million here and a couple there for the others and I bet most if not all that 14m was spent
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Some of the reports about what we might have paid for Matos and McGuinness are terrifying. 2 players who have done nothing in their careers to warrant chunky transfer fees. However they aren't confirmed and I'll cling to that.

Anything £5m plus and I expect a player who has won plaudits playing 1st team football at Championship level or above. Neither of them have.
 
GrayBlade said:
And in his own words “fully fledged board member” Bettis, despite having 10 years experienced at the Lane to share didn’t seem to have had the balls or the desire to say ‘whoah hang on a minute!. In the interview, he described the chaos as a them and him situation where he stood helpless on the sidelines while ‘they’ ****** up! How so?
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He’s not a shareholder. It makes a difference.
 
Fjortoft's Aeroplane said:
Some of the reports about what we might have paid for Matos and McGuinness are terrifying. 2 players who have done nothing in their careers to warrant chunky transfer fees. However they aren't confirmed and I'll cling to that.

Anything £5m plus and I expect a player who has won plaudits playing 1st team football at Championship level or above. Neither of them have.
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Any link to these reports?
 
FriethBlade said:
Fjortoft if we ever find out what we paid for Matos I think there will be a collective gulp very similar to the one we all emitted when we heard we had paid 10m for Cannon. A Chelsea academy player with 20 appearances in the championship for Oxford will have cost a lot more than hes so far looked worth! Add a couple of million here and a couple there for the others and I bet most if not all that 14m was spent
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Have we paid £10m for Cannon?
 
54yrblade said:
Summary - Sunday league level communicator, speaking on behalf of a bang average championship club, recovering from a catastrophic series of decisions and crossing fingers that Wilder keeps us in the division.

'I'm an accountant'

Stick to the day job then Steve.

Woeful.
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This isn’t aimed at you. It’s just that before any direct communication from the club I predicted it’s a bad idea because many would try to turn it into a negative and create damage.

This is why very few clubs ever communicate.

It’s highly dangerous because it doesn’t matter what is said…it will be twisted into a negatives. Even if anything positive is said it will obviously be a lie.

Some people need a scape goat to cope. it’s an outlet for their personal frustrations. Often makes me smile how when Hamer, Burrows, Cooper, Campbell are transfer targets. They become great players and many are convinced they’ll all be sold on the cheap because apparently we always sell our best players every year.

Then when we keep the same players they all suddenly become crap, get rid.

Same with the owners, it doesn’t matter what the owners do, some of our fans will hate them, keep mentioning their nationality with insults.

No wonder the current owners have kept out of the limelight and prefer to allow Bettis to do rare interviews. It’s a thankless task but at least he’s tried.
 



Harry's Game said:
Permanent deals for Chong and McGuinnes.. two awful footballers 😡
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Two footballers who came through the academies at huge clubs - Chong at Feyenoord then Manchester, McGuinness at Arsenal - yet seem to lack one or more of the fundamentals of their positions. McGuinness can't judge a ball in the air; Chong has (on limited evidence, admittedly) zero positional sense.
 
Balham said:
Two footballers who came through the academies at huge clubs - Chong at Feyenoord then Manchester, McGuinness at Arsenal - yet seem to lack one or more of the fundamentals of their positions. McGuinness can't judge a ball in the air; Chong has (on limited evidence, admittedly) zero positional sense.
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Not really surprised at McGuinness. I can't imagine the ball spends much time off the ground in elite academy football, not much of a preparation for defending in the Championship
 
Blade59 said:
Nor sure why Bettis is getting all the flack for the interview. I thought he gave honest answers even if it was only to confirm what we already knew or suspected. We may not like what he was saying but at least we know where we currently stand. Basically the owners plans are to get promoted but with no real strategy as to how we achieve this or how we establish ourselves when we get their.
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You appreciate Bettis is the CEO?

So him coming on air and admitting we don't have a clear strategy is pretty nuts.. part of his role is to formulate such a strategy.

If I turned up to an appraisal at work and said I was shit at my job and don't have a clue what I'm doing and have no plans for resolving that, I'm not sure they'd appreciate it.
 
Sean Thornton said:
Have we paid £10m for Cannon?
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Widely reported that we did but who knows, see below from BBC website

Sheffield United have completed the signing of Republic of Ireland striker Tom Cannon from Leicester for an undisclosed fee, reported to be around £10m.

What I would guess is that Matis cost a significant sum although I hope some of it is based on appearance/ promotiotytype clauses
 
bertieblade said:
Surely those instalments are performance related?
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The only interest he has is to portray the club in the worst possible light. He’s been doing it for years. The info he’s suggesting isn’t in the public domain.
 
FriethBlade said:
Fjortoft if we ever find out what we paid for Matos I think there will be a collective gulp very similar to the one we all emitted when we heard we had paid 10m for Cannon. A Chelsea academy player with 20 appearances in the championship for Oxford will have cost a lot more than hes so far looked worth! Add a couple of million here and a couple there for the others and I bet most if not all that 14m was spent
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I don’t know, Gilchrist went from £10m, to £5m to £1.5m within the space of the window so we might have got a good deal on Matos.

We should have bought Gilchrist instead of Godfrey though.
 



FriethBlade said:
Widely reported that we did but who knows, see below from BBC website

Sheffield United have completed the signing of Republic of Ireland striker Tom Cannon from Leicester for an undisclosed fee, reported to be around £10m.

What I would guess is that Matis cost a significant sum although I hope some of it is based on appearance/ promotiotytype clauses
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Little actual detail on either Cannon or Matos but it’s not surprising that estimated transfer fees we pay for players not pulling up on any trees are always at the top end of press reports while fees received are written down.

Matos hasn’t been here for that long and he’s being written off as a “£10m” flop.
 
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