Step up McBurnie

[LewishamBlade]

Let it go Brian, you're better than this.

You're 53 years of age and yet doing the exact same thing, no?

 

[Houston_Blade]

Sharp has played 1,903 minutes in the league this season.
McBurnie has played 454 minutes.

He has to be on the pitch to score goals. And a 10 or 15minute cameo every so often isn't going to help.

Brewster for example, is it a coincidence that he started scoring and playing well when he was starting games, but also being played as a CF instead of a Right Mid?

McBurnie has started 3x league games.

I hear this argument a lot and I agree. But what are the reasons for him not being on the pitch in the first place?

You have one player who, at 36, is in the form of his career, in great shape and an ambassador for the club (apart from twatting a Derby fan!). Then you've got a 25 year old, apparently the 'prime' age for a player and has basically pissed about for a few seasons and not really made a significant contribution to the fortunes of the club (since the first PL season).

Then people wonder why I get pissed off when they want McBurnie in the team over Sharp!

 

[DronnieBlade]

What an absolute moron.

I get out plenty thanks.
It takes a matter of seconds to look at your post history and see what a total fuckwit you are.

Anyone who doesn't agree with you is on crack though, obviously.

Difference between you and Oli, he acknowledges his shortcomings....

I don't suspect you'll acknowledge what you've said is wrong, you seem extremely narcissistic.

Fuckwit.

Narcissist.

Moron.

Anymore for anymore ??

You, quite obviously, win .

Well played .

UTB

 

[Bell4]

Yep. You read it perfectly well. I can’t stand Andy Carroll but in the first half he was everything he was meant to be. A handful in the air, good first touch, good link up play and mobile.
Like it or not, he was one of their better players in the first half

Fully agree with this

 

[mattbianco1]

Totally agree. Why is he spending so few minutes on the pitch, even when fit? Why has he dropped so far down the pecking order? Before the JTW he was vying for 5th or 6th spot amongst our strikers with Oli Burke. Why is that?

I hear this argument a lot and I agree. But what are the reasons for him not being on the pitch in the first place?

You have one player who, at 36, is in the form of his career, in great shape and an ambassador for the club (apart from twatting a Derby fan!). Then you've got a 25 year old, apparently the 'prime' age for a player and has basically pissed about for a few seasons and not really made a significant contribution to the fortunes of the club (since the first PL season).

Then people wonder why I get pissed off when they want McBurnie in the team over Sharp!

Heckingbottom said he has had/got long covid. It's taken him a long time to get anything like his proper fitness back. He's easing him back into the team gently.

Remember when Brooks had Glandular Fever? Took him months to get back to full fitness.

We're talking about athletes who's fitness is something us mortals can only dream of, so when they have an illness that debilitates them, imagine how hard it must be to get back to the level they need to be at.

 

[Houston_Blade]

We're talking about athletes who's fitness is something us mortals can only dream of,

Speak for yourself, my 5 times weekly Peloton classes and weekly game of 5 a side put me in the 'superhuman' category!

I take your point again, but the stupid shoulder injury wasn't long covid, the drink driving and beating chavs up wasn't long covid.

I hope he proves that he's worthy of a run of games because it's worrying that the 36 year old bloke is our past, present and future as it stands (no disrespect to Billy).

 

[blades78]

Like him or not, we are going to need him between now and the end of the season.
Might as well get behind him and see if he can chip in with a few vital goals .

 

[Cheesebored]

Heckingbottom said he has had/got long covid. It's taken him a long time to get anything like his proper fitness back. He's easing him back into the team gently.

Remember when Brooks had Glandular Fever? Took him months to get back to full fitness.

We're talking about athletes who's fitness is something us mortals can only dream of, so when they have an illness that debilitates them, imagine how hard it must be to get back to the level they need to be at.

Again that's fair comment, however Brooks looked a talent before his illness.

 

[Cheesebored]

You're 53 years of age and yet doing the exact same thing, no?

No. You're flogging a dead horse and can't see it.

 

[LJBlade]

I clearly stated he'd started under Wilder. Try reading the post.

He made 4 changes to the winning side at Birmingham. Mcburnie wasn't one of them. Not very good at this are you?

"He's not been a regular starter under 3 different managers". So which three managers were you talking about?

That was McBurnie's first game back since a long stint out with Covid. It's not exactly reasonable to suggest he should have started.

On the given evidence, I might not be very good at this but I'm certainly better than you.

 

[Jon Bon II]

Please can someone sum this thread up in a short sound, to save me trawling all the way through it? Ta.

 

[blades14]

Please can someone sum this thread up in a short sound, to save me trawling all the way through it? Ta.

Apparently McBurnie has been brought here for "link up" play and not to score goals

 

[Jon Bon II]

Apparently McBurnie has been brought here for "link up" play and not to score goals

20 million seems awfully expensive for a link up player that can't score. Are you sure?

 

[Cheesebored]

"He's not been a regular starter under 3 different managers". So which three managers were you talking about?

That was McBurnie's first game back since a long stint out with Covid. It's not exactly reasonable to suggest he should have started.

On the given evidence, I might not be very good at this but I'm certainly better than you.

Wasn't a regular starter under Hecky's caretaker tenure or Slav. Fell out of favour eventually under Wilder. That's 3.

 

[LJBlade]

Wasn't a regular starter under Hecky's caretaker tenure or Slav. Fell out of favour eventually under Wilder. That's 3.

Under Hecky's caretaker tenure he wasn't a regular starter? Were you really expecting him to play with a broken foot?

So now it's not that he wasn't a regular starter under Wilder, it's that he eventually fell out of favour. Which the facts don't really demonstrate as he started 8 of the first 12 games before he got injured. Granted he then only started 3 of Wilder's last 8 games in charge and logic would say that's probably because he was working back to full fitness but I'm sure you are absolutely correct

 

[Cheesebored]

Under Hecky's caretaker tenure he wasn't a regular starter? Were you really expecting him to play with a broken foot?

So now it's not that he wasn't a regular starter under Wilder, it's that he eventually fell out of favour. Which the facts don't really demonstrate as he started 8 of the first 12 games before he got injured. Granted he then only started 3 of Wilder's last 8 games in charge and logic would say that's probably because he was working back to full fitness but I'm sure you are absolutely correct

Logic. Lol. Not because the penny had dropped?

 

[LJBlade]

Logic. Lol. Not because the penny had dropped?

So no comment on how incorrect the rest of your post was then?

 

[DronnieBlade]

At the back of the kop .

UTB

 

[Cheesebored]

So no comment on how incorrect the rest of your post was then?

When he's been fit and available for selection he's not been picked by Wilder, Hecky, Slav and Hecky again. Do you disagree? No injury, no covid, just fit and available for selection. Yes or no?

 

[Lucky1979]

15 mins on Friday. Did well. Influenced the game.

25 mins tonight. Ambled around and reverted to type. Zero influence on the game.

I’ll tell it how it is. Not how some would wish it to be !

UTB

are you blind? Go watch the 2nd goal and see how much involvement he had in that. From our own half, left wing, middle of the final third and right side. The whole passing move pretty much went through him

 

[nopigfansintown]

His link play was good and he never gave the ball away. The next stage is to bust his balls to get in the box to finish off his own good work. He's stopped making the vertical runs that got him his goals at Barnsley and Swansea. His goals were usually: link the play, pass it wide, get in the box and finish the cut back on the floor. Incidentally the model for a lot of goals United have scored under Hecky/McCall. It's most probably a confidence thing, but it's an an absolute necessity to again start making those runs to get goals. At the moment he's passing the buck too much.
His price tag is completely immaterial: judging players on their price tag is the last bastion of those without a valid argument. Torres wasn't great at Liverpool and shite at Chelsea because of his price tag; it was simply because he was shite at Chelsea and great at Liverpool.

On the Oli haters vs lovers theme: you guys are all missing the point!

It's those who saw through Slav that are the Kingpins. The Slav misjudgements/apologias have cost us automatics. It's interesting how quickly that inglorious history was buried. Apparently all our players were shit and it needed a dozen players to make us competitive . If you knew give yourselves a pat on the back!
NPFIT knew for your information! If you got that basic fact wrong wrong, football probably isn't your strong point!

 

[DronnieBlade]

are you blind? Go watch the 2nd goal and see how much involvement he had in that. From our own half, left wing, middle of the final third and right side. The whole passing move pretty much went through him

Covered at #125 by another poster.

Another blind poster.

BlindBlad !

UTB

 

[SouthportBlade]

Covered at #125 by another poster.

Another blind poster.

BlindBlad !

UTB

Let's be fair #125 only mentions it, in a fairly loose, highly subjective and reductive way.

To class that as 'covered', as an absolute fact, is pretty far from the mark.

Its on par with saying i could do half of what Claude Makelele used to do, which is pass 5 yards to a more creative player. Whilst technically true, it's just not remotely valid or useful.

McB played a key part of a brilliant team goal, and was involved right across the pitch. Trying to find fault or downplay just feels a clutching at straws to suit a pre-formed viewpoint.

 

[LJBlade]

When he's been fit and available for selection he's not been picked by Wilder, Hecky, Slav and Hecky again. Do you disagree? No injury, no covid, just fit and available for selection. Yes or no?

Yes I disagree as you’ve completely ignored the fact that he wasn’t fit under Hecky the first time. Under Wilder has was consistently picked to start, it was only when he was injured that he wasn’t. He started more games during those two season than any of our other strikers. You can try to change history as much as you like.

In the words of the forum genius, you’re not very good at this are you.

 

[Cheesebored]

Yes I disagree as you’ve completely ignored the fact that he wasn’t fit under Hecky the first time. Under Wilder has was consistently picked to start, it was only when he was injured that he wasn’t. He started more games during those two season than any of our other strikers. You can try to change history as much as you like.

In the words of the forum genius, you’re not very good at this are you.

You don't change a winning side. That genius?

 

[nopigfansintown]

The best thing somebody could do for Mcburnie is analyse these two videos. Let it never be said that goals aren't scored in the penalty area :

 

[nopigfansintown]

Heckingbottom said he has had/got long covid. It's taken him a long time to get anything like his proper fitness back. He's easing him back into the team gently.

Remember when Brooks had Glandular Fever? Took him months to get back to full fitness.

We're talking about athletes who's fitness is something us mortals can only dream of, so when they have an illness that debilitates them, imagine how hard it must be to get back to the level they need to be at.

Some people never recover from these types of viruses unfortunately. The degree of "not recovering" can vary quite wildly. It's promising that at least he can play some part. Whether he'll be in the physical condition to start in the near future is another thing.

 

[Vass Borbokis]

Covered at #125 by another poster.

Another blind poster.

BlindBlad !

UTB

How are all these blind crackheads (in your views) managing to find their way to the back of the kop in your honest opinion?
And how are they able to come on a forum and post their opinions?

Is everyone who doesn't agree with you in all aspects of life on some kind of drug/disabled in some way?
Do you have a list that you work from?

Genuinely intrigued by your mindset

 

[Andy67]

He started regularly until it became obvious he wasn't as good as the management had hoped. So when fit and available pre and post covid why is he still viewed as a bit part player? We needed a goal scorer. His record with us says he isn't one.

Wrong (I can’t say wether he was thought to be no good with SJ but that is not the case before and after SJ

 

[Andy67]

Necessity through injuries you mean?

After last night possibly but it won’t be the same team at the weekend.