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Again, that's not the point. The point is he has to do interviews for a reason. Unless he genuinely does not know a good performance from bad (perfectly possible) why not be honest? Not being so a) leaves supporters knowing he's talking rubbish and b) makes supporters less inclined to get onside. Being honest and calling a spade a spade eliminates both of those and there's absolutely no net difference of effort in doing so.

Whether you like it or not, it is the point. It's the exact point being discussed.
 

Again, that's not the point. The point is he has to do interviews for a reason. Unless he genuinely does not know a good performance from bad (perfectly possible) why not be honest? Not being so a) leaves supporters knowing he's talking rubbish and b) makes supporters less inclined to get onside. Being honest and calling a spade a spade eliminates both of those and there's absolutely no net difference of effort in the process.
Note to self - as ever, pointless.

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Managers are trained in dealing with the media ,and handling interviews ,like politicians ,to say fuck all really ,in Sheffield actually , I know a girl who does it. So are players ,though only some can be bothered when they go. Don't believe everything you hear its all spin ,from chairmen to management to players and not exclusively to football or sport actually. I actually sat as a guinea pig for them with hardly anyone watching and shit myself ,so cringeworthy watching yourself on TV and listening was even worse ,so it must be nerve racking in reality. paul Scholes would never do it or Giggs when they were younger ,now players are contractually obliged to. First thing you are taught is don't answer the question ,so take from that what you can.
 
Again, that's not the point. The point is he has to do interviews for a reason. Unless he genuinely does not know a good performance from bad (perfectly possible) why not be honest? Not being so a) leaves supporters knowing he's talking rubbish and b) makes supporters less inclined to get onside. Being honest and calling a spade a spade eliminates both of those and there's absolutely no net difference of effort in the process.

Did you ever see a Ferguson interview? Some of the greatest fiction since Moby Dick. Hell he even tried to justify Cantona jumping in the stand like some demented ninja at Palace. He had always had two points on his agenda
1. Back his players to the hilt.
2. Play mind games with opposition managers (Keegan, I'd love it)

Telling the truth, being honest and calling a spade a spade were not even under any other business for Fergie. He did interviews because he had to (bar the BBC) but he used them for his own benefit. Keeping all those Essex Reds abreast of his opinions on their latest performance wasn't ever part of it.

And whilst we're here, Warnock was the teller of most bollocks ever in interviews. It was always the ref spoiling a great performance from a great bunch of lads.
 
We were warned:

2: Lots of words with little substance

Adkins does like the sound of his own voice and he wants everyone to hear it, no matter what's said.

Blades fans - expect lengthy interviews and press conferences when your new manager speaks.

He does like to talk and talk and talk and talk.

Unfortunately a lot of the time, it's often very mundane stuff and there's very little to it.


http://www.getreading.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/nigel-adkins-five-things-sheffield-9379030
 
Did you ever see a Ferguson interview? Some of the greatest fiction since Moby Dick. Hell he even tried to justify Cantona jumping in the stand like some demented ninja at Palace. He had always had two points on his agenda
1. Back his players to the hilt.
2. Play mind games with opposition managers (Keegan, I'd love it)

Telling the truth, being honest and calling a spade a spade were not even under any other business for Fergie. He did interviews because he had to (bar the BBC) but he used them for his own benefit. Keeping all those Essex Reds abreast of his opinions on their latest performance wasn't ever part of it.

And whilst we're here, Warnock was the teller of most bollocks ever in interviews. It was always the ref spoiling a great performance from a great bunch of lads.
But apparently none of this is relevant to Adkins' interviews not reflecting what Barney was told happened on the field.

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There was a time when the manager had a page in match programme and occasionally a bit of a quote from the likes of Peter Howard or Tony Hardisty in the Star. There was no local radio and to be honest I have not got the foggiest idea what John Harris' voice actually sounded like. (Curiously it was the likes of Radio Luxembourg that gave rise to local radio I believe). Football in those days didn't have an identity crisis as to whether it was a part of the News, Entertainment or Sport empires and television wasn't wall to wall football, reality shows and soaps.

I have huge sympathy for Managers who now have to deal with media scavengers looking for exclusives and stories to justify their frankly small and parochial existences. Less is more I was always told. Adkins has a propensity to waffle on and he may regret that one day if he drops his guard. Straight bat and do your dirty washing in private is the best interview policy and Adkins would be well advised to stick to it. So far he has given little away to latch on to but in a way I think that is good, if a little repetitive.
 
On the club Facebook he said the manager is staying. He thinks the club has the right man in charged. Thoughts on this guys. He said the prince has not fallen out with him. Well ask him to attend games. He opened up to speak to supporters.








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On the club Facebook he said the manager is staying. He thinks the club has the right man in charged. Thoughts on this guys. He said the prince has not fallen out with him. Well ask him to attend games. He opened up to speak to supporters.








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Was Price predictive text ?? :)
 
McCabe has been a disaster since we got into the Premiership.

More than happy to chuck money at off field activities in the hope of Utd becoming a brand.

More than happy to sell every single player that comes through the academy yet tells how we should be great full for a premiership style one.

More than happy to tell us how he has modernised the Lane yet due to his lack of on field spending we have a great stadium in League2.

He's a true Yorkshireman is McCabe. Can not see past his own nose bless him.
 

I think sacking Warnock after relegation from prem was McCabes biggest mistake to date. He would have taken us back up.
 
McCabe has been a disaster since we got into the Premiership.

More than happy to chuck money at off field activities in the hope of Utd becoming a brand.

More than happy to sell every single player that comes through the academy yet tells how we should be great full for a premiership style one.

More than happy to tell us how he has modernised the Lane yet due to his lack of on field spending we have a great stadium in League2.

He's a true Yorkshireman is McCabe. Can not see past his own nose bless him.
I think one of McCabes big issues is that he has spent money. We've thrown money at players and managers, but it's often been very misguided. We're rarely let any manager settle in and as a result we have had a cycle of sacking managers time and time again, meaning that the latest manager has players left over from 5-6 managers ago!

In recent years, since the prince came on board we've had this obsession with signing players from a league or two leagues above. It was there before under McCabe, but now it seems to be the blue print.

The biggest failing though is taking the work done by managers like Warnock and recently Clough and just disregarding it all. They all did a lot of good work and perhaps had some things right, but because they were characters which clashed with the hierarchy, the ideas get binned. I don't blame McCabe/ the prince particularly, they're doing what they think is right. They're not football people, but they think they are. They need a director of football, not a committee

I personally think Adkins is the right man at the wrong time, it'll take a while to get things right or a lot of luck. Looking at this division, the luck may well play a part this year... Imagine this seasons league 1 with Danny Wilsons side from his first season...
 
So he says him and he prince have spent 8million each this season, so 16 million plus 2.5 from Murphy, that's 18.5 million ....

What a load of old bollocks.....
 
I think one of McCabes big issues is that he has spent money. We've thrown money at players and managers, but it's often been very misguided. We're rarely let any manager settle in and as a result we have had a cycle of sacking managers time and time again, meaning that the latest manager has players left over from 5-6 managers ago!

In recent years, since the prince came on board we've had this obsession with signing players from a league or two leagues above. It was there before under McCabe, but now it seems to be the blue print.

The biggest failing though is taking the work done by managers like Warnock and recently Clough and just disregarding it all. They all did a lot of good work and perhaps had some things right, but because they were characters which clashed with the hierarchy, the ideas get binned. I don't blame McCabe/ the prince particularly, they're doing what they think is right. They're not football people, but they think they are. They need a director of football, not a committee

I personally think Adkins is the right man at the wrong time, it'll take a while to get things right or a lot of luck. Looking at this division, the luck may well play a part this year... Imagine this seasons league 1 with Danny Wilsons side from his first season...


Good post but isn't KM capable of making a bad choice of Director of Football too? Glen Roeder is available I think!!

Good point about Wilson's squad. What a missed opportunity that year was.

My simple belief is that the whole success of any football club below top 6 in the Premiership is down to the manager. Above that level the money and the ball game changes these days, it's a global cauldron with vast sums of money and high stakes and I honestly believe nobody has a real handle on it, apart from Wenger and Arsenal perhaps. So much money is wasted on players' wages and transfer fees but there's more where the money came from. Management of the prima-donna players must be a nightmare.

At our level the manager makes it happen. His biggest appointments are, in order of importance, the Head Scout and then his coaches.

Regardless of budget, real value has to be achieved in player signings. If they are the right character and add quality to the squad then the dressing room starts to believe in the manager and it gives it a chance. Adkins has failed in that to date. ( Clough did so well with us until he started signing new players!!)

I look at Adkins in these difficult times and wonder whether he is the man for a crisis. He's one of the most positive and enthusiastic managers we have ever had. In the short time he has after games, in his interviews he manages to summarise games very well and he certainly draws everything positive out of situations. When results are poor he looks a bit deluded, naive even. Once he gets the pot boiling though just watch the levels he can take the team and the fans to. Whether he can boil the pot is the big question!! It's a big ask from this point.
 
Good post but isn't KM capable of making a bad choice of Director of Football too? Glen Roeder is available I think!!

Good point about Wilson's squad. What a missed opportunity that year was.

My simple belief is that the whole success of any football club below top 6 in the Premiership is down to the manager. Above that level the money and the ball game changes these days, it's a global cauldron with vast sums of money and high stakes and I honestly believe nobody has a real handle on it, apart from Wenger and Arsenal perhaps. So much money is wasted on players' wages and transfer fees but there's more where the money came from. Management of the prima-donna players must be a nightmare.

At our level the manager makes it happen. His biggest appointments are, in order of importance, the Head Scout and then his coaches.

Regardless of budget, real value has to be achieved in player signings. If they are the right character and add quality to the squad then the dressing room starts to believe in the manager and it gives it a chance. Adkins has failed in that to date. ( Clough did so well with us until he started signing new players!!)

I look at Adkins in these difficult times and wonder whether he is the man for a crisis. He's one of the most positive and enthusiastic managers we have ever had. In the short time he has after games, in his interviews he manages to summarise games very well and he certainly draws everything positive out of situations. When results are poor he looks a bit deluded, naive even. Once he gets the pot boiling though just watch the levels he can take the team and the fans to. Whether he can boil the pot is the big question!! It's a big ask from this point.

I disagree it's the manager who is most important.

Clubs like Swansea and Southampton have been set up in a way that means the manager has to fit in with the way the club works and means they have more chance of being successful.

Stoke too, they have a whole team of scouts and backroom staff that stick with the club and don't change with the manager.

Phipps/McCabe have alluded to as much in their interviews. Sort out how the club is run from the top down and the choice of manager becomes much less important.
 
I disagree it's the manager who is most important.

Clubs like Swansea and Southampton have been set up in a way that means the manager has to fit in with the way the club works and means they have more chance of being successful.

Stoke too, they have a whole team of scouts and backroom staff that stick with the club and don't change with the manager.

Phipps/McCabe have alluded to as much in their interviews. Sort out how the club is run from the top down and the choice of manager becomes much less important.


Fine. I happen to think our club at this level is run extremely well apart from the choice of managers. I suppose the managers' choices of scouts could have been better but I respect the principle. Swansea and Southampton have built their set ups alongside their success and will have had nothing like those set ups back in League 1.

I also think the last Swansea manager failed despite the strength of the club and the next one will if he's not good enough. I'm luke warm on Koeman too and Adkins was deemed to be failing ( relatively) at Southampton.
 
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So he says him and he prince have spent 8million each this season, so 16 million plus 2.5 from Murphy, that's 18.5 million ....

What a load of old bollocks.....
Think if you listen to him he says there's 8m of investment going in this year ,doesn't say who out of the two of them is stumping up
 
Fine. I happen to think our club at this level is run extremely well apart from the choice of managers. I suppose the managers' choices of scouts could have been better but I respect the principle. Swansea and Southampton have built their set ups alongside their success and will have had nothing like those set ups back in League 1.

I also think the last Swansea manager failed despite the strength of the club and the next one will if he's not good enough. I'm luke warm on Koeman too and Adkins was deemed to be failing ( relatively) at Southampton.

Not wanting to pick an argument, but why do you think we're well run?

As you say, we make poor managerial choices. We give them free reign to sign who they want, massively over budget.

And you're 'Luke warm" on Koeman as he has Southampton 6th in the premier league.

We apparently lose millions a year.

We employ people with no knowledge of football to manage our transfers and these guys are so busy with their own businesses they haven't got time to do anything about transfers.

All if this is before I even mention our on pitch failure.

The amount of managers we hire and who fail can't all be down to the managers failings. Some of which have had varying success before they come here.

IMO you had to look at the common denominator in all of this.
 
He has made mistakes

The problem is, he's made cascading failures that have unquestionably caused himself those rather large losses. We can't predict with any certainty, but do you honestly think we'd be here if Warnock had stayed on/they'd got Jagielka's contract right/someone better than Robson had been appointed/someone better than Blackwell had been brought in (yes, I'm aware of his win%, that squad should have walked that league!), panicking and selling off almost the entire squad from under Blackwell, etc, etc, etc.

I can't predict what would have happened if history had been different at any of those points any better than you can (maybe we'd still have ended up here? Or worse??). One thing we know for sure, the combination and continuation of those decisions have led us to be exactly where we are now, and in the process they've cost Kevin McCabe a small fortune. McCabe has spent a small fortune because of McCabe, we owe him nothing!
 
So he says him and he prince have spent 8million each this season, so 16 million plus 2.5 from Murphy, that's 18.5 million ....

What a load of old bollocks.....

Do you really think that we got £2.5m for Murphy and that it was all paid in one lump sum?
Come to think of it, you probably do think that. Oh dear.
 
I disagree it's the manager who is most important.

Clubs like Swansea and Southampton have been set up in a way that means the manager has to fit in with the way the club works and means they have more chance of being successful.

Stoke too, they have a whole team of scouts and backroom staff that stick with the club and don't change with the manager.

Phipps/McCabe have alluded to as much in their interviews. Sort out how the club is run from the top down and the choice of manager becomes much less important.

Pete , agree it's not the manager . There life span is I think now 7 months . It's ensuring everything in the background is kept as status quo . Scouts , coaching , kit man , tea man , all back room staff keeping that level of continuity , and not having a start all over again , every time a new manager comes through the door. The football club then does have some DNA , blue print , benchmark to work from which is imprinted in the club , and every bugger knows there job , role and responsibility , even down to the laundry ladies.

Watford had 5 managers in one season and we're still successful . Other clubs can crack the formula , so I am sure we can . Is Adkins / McCabe partnership the one to start the successful legacy . We may be once starting to make our own luck , by learning from others , and all at BDTBL not having there head up there arses thinking they know best . ( look were that's got us in the past )

UTB
 
Not wanting to pick an argument, but why do you think we're well run?

As you say, we make poor managerial choices. We give them free reign to sign who they want, massively over budget.

And you're 'Luke warm" on Koeman as he has Southampton 6th in the premier league.

We apparently lose millions a year.

We employ people with no knowledge of football to manage our transfers and these guys are so busy with their own businesses they haven't got time to do anything about transfers.

All if this is before I even mention our on pitch failure.

The amount of managers we hire and who fail can't all be down to the managers failings. Some of which have had varying success before they come here.

IMO you had to look at the common denominator in all of this.


No need for an argument, it's a worthwhile discussion.

Put a decent manager at any stage each of our last 7 managers were appointed and we would be miles better off by now.

I would have chosen Sean O'Driscoll on two of those occasions and would probably have got it wrong each time looking at his career since. I was definitely against the appointments of Robson, Blackwell, Speed, Adams and Wilson though. I was delighted when Weir, Clough and Adkins were appointed though. It's not easy.

Considering the performances of all those managers, our club overall is in great shape and ready to support a push towards the Premier League with everything in place. That is quite remarkable and great tribute should be paid to KM who has seen it through despite the huge expense and of course the fans. The prince has to have the bottle to keep investing until it happens. I'm afraid he's appears to be dithering at the moment.
 

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