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Millhousesblade1889 said:
He is certainly not earning £34,000 a week.

I did not imply that he would rediscover his form; rather, I suggested that if we can negotiate a reduced contract, it could mean he becomes either the third or fourth choice, or is sent out on loan. This way, we wouldn't completely lose a player who cost us over £20 million for nothing, which could be a prudent strategy.

It seems you may have overlooked the point I raised, as well as that of the original poster. We're discussing reduced terms. To compete at a high level, we need three or four strikers. He has demonstrated potential; if he can maintain his fitness, he could be a valuable asset. Last season against Wolves, he performed exceptionally well, but we haven't seen that consistently enough.

I did not claim he hasn't received playing time. Based on your responses, I am beginning to doubt your ability to comprehend the discussion.
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Is he not? Rediscover what fucking form?, reduced terms!!! He's not even close to being a championship level player, the money has gone, it's a write off, demonstrated potential?, he played OK for a half in one match ffs against an average Premier league team, oh and yes he didn't score. Seriously mate get over it, he's not anywhere near the level of football he's playing at, he's absolutely atrocious.
 

Millhousesblade1889 said:
He is certainly not earning £34,000 a week.

I did not imply that he would rediscover his form; rather, I suggested that if we can negotiate a reduced contract, it could mean he becomes either the third or fourth choice, or is sent out on loan. This way, we wouldn't completely lose a player who cost us over £20 million for nothing, which could be a prudent strategy.

It seems you may have overlooked the point I raised, as well as that of the original poster. We're discussing reduced terms. To compete at a high level, we need three or four strikers. He has demonstrated potential; if he can maintain his fitness, he could be a valuable asset. Last season against Wolves, he performed exceptionally well, but we haven't seen that consistently enough.

I did not claim he hasn't received playing time. Based on your responses, I am beginning to doubt your ability to comprehend the discussion.
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We don't need to reduce terms! We need better, I'm not saying this with any malice whatsoever, but sadly he will finish up further down the leagues, to be blunt the lad looks finished and he's cost us a fortune trying to get him right! We've better in the academy, One, Marsh, and the up and coming Beattie, in fact you could say he's blocking there path ffs!
 
Millhousesblade1889 said:
He is certainly not earning £34,000 a week.
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Every Sheffield United striker's estimated weekly wage - Rhian Brewster on £35k-a-week​

This figure is quoted on several football sites. Take it with however large pinch of salt you like.

Millhousesblade1889 said:
Last season against Wolves, he performed exceptionally well,
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One match. I repeat, one match!
and you want to extend his contract on the basis of that one match.

you admit yourself he's not been anywhere like consistent enough.
And if, to quote yourself , he might, become third of forth choice ,or sent out on loan!!!!!!! What the fuck good is that going to be??????
Surely we want somebody whose going to be first choice!
Millhousesblade1889 said:
Based on your responses, I am beginning to doubt your ability to comprehend the discussion
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Based on your responses I have to doubt your ability to comprehend when a player is just not good enough.
Have you not heard the saying, when you're a hole stop digging!
 
Slim Man said:
If I’m saying it, he must be playing pretty well. Cos I’ve been much less than kind about him.

Was outstanding today, and much more effective (again) than O’Hare.

Perhaps should’ve passed to JRS but you can’t begrudge him a shot after working a chance.

Looked very lively these past few and his link up has been great. He’s got that explosive acceleration that can take him away from defenders and playing in these pockets is really suiting him.

Give the lad the start he deserves against Luton and then a few games after. He will never get going without a run of games.

If he’s still not done anything after that, fine - but you have to give him a chance. And I think he’s earned that.

And as for anyone who suggests he hasn’t played pretty well in his last few appearances, or that he’s ’running his contract down’ you’re simply letting your anti-Brewster bias cloud your judgement.

We literally all want this to turn out well, and he’s doing his very fucking best. And it might, might, just be good enough… very impressive for me tonight.
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I wish Brewster would start, but I’ve been waiting for him to start his career for 4 years. There’s a player in there for sure but when will it start to be seen?
 
djbaldken said:

Every Sheffield United striker's estimated weekly wage - Rhian Brewster on £35k-a-week​

This figure is quoted on several football sites. Take it with however large pinch of salt you like.


One match. I repeat, one match!
and you want to extend his contract on the basis of that one match.

you admit yourself he's not been anywhere like consistent enough.
And if, to quote yourself , he might, become third of forth choice ,or sent out on loan!!!!!!! What the fuck good is that going to be??????
Surely we want somebody whose going to be first choice!

Based on your responses I have to doubt your ability to comprehend when a player is just not good enough.
Have you not heard the saying, when you're a hole stop digging!
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I have never claimed that Brewster is a standout player. My suggestion was that we either retain him for squad depth, considering the challenges we've faced in signing new players, or renew his contract and loan him out, since he is only 24 years old.

Your Google search into his wage made me chuckle. If he‘a earning £35,000 a week—which various managers have denied in press conferences—we would certainly be doing everything possible to facilitate his departure.

Just to clarify, expressing that it may not be wise to let a player we've invested over £20 million in leave for free does not imply that I regard him as the best player at United. We can all agree there was potential in him at one point, and he was considered one of the brightest prospects in England around five years ago. Therefore, if he can maintain fitness for the rest of the season and show improvement in his performance, I would be open to discussing a new, reduced contract based on the reasons I have outlined.

I’m not really sure what’s wrong with that?
 
TJ blade said:
We don't need to reduce terms! We need better, I'm not saying this with any malice whatsoever, but sadly he will finish up further down the leagues, to be blunt the lad looks finished and he's cost us a fortune trying to get him right! We've better in the academy, One, Marsh, and the up and coming Beattie, in fact you could say he's blocking there path ffs!
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One definitely looks a great prospect. Marsh I’m not so sure you’ll see him as a blades player.

As I’ve said multiple times, if I had confidence that United could write £20m off as a bad deal and get a few more strikers in that are better then I’d say get rid of Brewster as soon as we can. But we spent a full summer looking for strikers and we ended up with Moore & Campbell.

We don’t have money without a takeover, so as things stand we’re probably better with Brewster around than not & the same applies to next season if we’re still in the championship with less money parachute money & the same ownership.

Things can quickly change in football. He could go on and bag a hattrick tomorrow (very unlikely) or he could tear his hammy and we put this debate to bed as he’ll be off.

If you read my comments made on the subject there’s a lot of ‘ifs’ - if he stays fit, improves his performances, takes reduced terms. I’m sure we could all agree we’d be open for him to have a new deal if those ‘IFs’ happen. However it’s not likely to happen.

What fun would a forum be if we all agreed with each other 😂👍🏻
 
Millhousesblade1889 said:
He has demonstrated potential; if he can maintain his fitness, he could be a valuable asset.
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"If" doing most of the heavy lifting here, nobly asssisted by "could be".

He can't maintain his fitness, four years have proved that. When his contract is up that should end any and all commitments we have to the failed experiment that is Rhian Brewster. He has long since ceased to be a valuable asset. Watch where he ends up, because it won't be a club with realistic Premier League ambitions.
 
Millhousesblade1889 said:
I have never claimed that Brewster is a standout player. My suggestion was that we either retain him for squad depth, considering the challenges we've faced in signing new players, or renew his contract and loan him out, since he is only 24 years old.

Your Google search into his wage made me chuckle. If he‘a earning £35,000 a week—which various managers have denied in press conferences—we would certainly be doing everything possible to facilitate his departure.

Just to clarify, expressing that it may not be wise to let a player we've invested over £20 million in leave for free does not imply that I regard him as the best player at United. We can all agree there was potential in him at one point, and he was considered one of the brightest prospects in England around five years ago. Therefore, if he can maintain fitness for the rest of the season and show improvement in his performance, I would be open to discussing a new, reduced contract based on the reasons I have outlined.

I’m not really sure what’s wrong with that?
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So for clarity, you don't believe that Brewster is a standout player. You also don't regard him as the best player at United.
Whether we all agree there was potential in him at one point is a matter of opinion .But even if he was, that was five years ago.

On the above points you make, that is, you don't think he is a standout player. You don't regard him to be our best player. He had potential five years ago.
On this basis you would offer him a new but reduced wages contract!
And you ask what's wrong with that?
Think about what you are saying.

In effect you are saying a player who is average, and not our best player, but because five years ago he had potential should be given a new contract.
 
djbaldken said:
So for clarity, you don't believe that Brewster is a standout player. You also don't regard him as the best player at United.
Whether we all agree there was potential in him at one point is a matter of opinion .But even if he was, that was five years ago.

On the above points you make, that is, you don't think he is a standout player. You don't regard him to be our best player. He had potential five years ago.
On this basis you would offer him a new but reduced wages contract!
And you ask what's wrong with that?
Think about what you are saying.

In effect you are saying a player who is average, and not our best player, but because five years ago he had potential should be given a new contract.
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I must admit, I'm struggling to grasp your main point. It seems like you're disagreeing just for the sake of it, without a clear rationale behind your statements.

By your definition, it seems every player who signs a new deal should automatically be considered a 'standout player.' Unfortunately, that's not how football works.

For example, RND recently received a new contract but has barely played in the last two years. Similarly, Davies was given a new deal to ensure we have adequate squad depth.

I've outlined the conditions under which I would consider giving him a new deal in previous messages, but for clarity, here they are again:

1. He maintains fitness.
2. He improves his performance, contributing with assists and hopefully scoring a few goals.
3. He agrees to reduced terms—perhaps a heavily bonus-weighted contract that rewards him more for goals and assists, similar to what Chelsea is doing.

I've acknowledged that these three conditions are unlikely, but if he were to meet them, I, along with many other Blades supporters, would be more than happy to see him stay.

Would you not?
 
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Needs to show something before Christmas or I'd list him in January
 
Millhousesblade1889 said:
I must admit, I'm struggling to grasp your main point. It seems like you're disagreeing just for the sake of it, without a clear rationale behind your statements.

By your definition, it seems every player who signs a new deal should automatically be considered a 'standout player.' Unfortunately, that's not how football works.

For example, RND recently received a new contract but has barely played in the last two years. Similarly, Davies was given a new deal to ensure we have adequate squad depth.

I've outlined the conditions under which I would consider giving him a new deal in previous messages, but for clarity, here they are again:

1. He maintains fitness.
2. He improves his performance, contributing with assists and hopefully scoring a few goals.
3. He agrees to reduced terms—perhaps a heavily bonus-weighted contract that rewards him more for goals and assists, similar to what Chelsea is doing.

I've acknowledged that these three conditions are unlikely, but if he were to meet them, I, along with many other Blades supporters, would be more than happy to see him stay.

Would you not?
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As you are struggling to grasp my main point, I 'll make it simple for you.

He doesn't, in my eyes, cut it!

He came here with such a fanfare and high expectations.
Expectations he has failed to lived up to. Over four seasons.

to be honest I struggle to go understand your reasoning too.
You list three conditions where you would give him a new contract.
Then in the next sentence, you admit it's unlikely he'll meet them.

He won't meet them!

I have a bet with a poster on here who reckons he'll score at least 10 or more goals. That's not going to happen. I feel quite confident I won't be paying out.
 
My Blackburn supporting colleague still goes on about Brewster's goal there a couple of seasons back. Was it Brewster's last goal for us?He's convinced Brewster will score again tomorrow
 

djbaldken said:
As you are struggling to grasp my main point, I 'll make it simple for you.

He doesn't, in my eyes, cut it!

He came here with such a fanfare and high expectations.
Expectations he has failed to lived up to. Over four seasons.

to be honest I struggle to go understand your reasoning too.
You list three conditions where you would give him a new contract.
Then in the next sentence, you admit it's unlikely he'll meet them.

He won't meet them!

I have a bet with a poster on here who reckons he'll score at least 10 or more goals. That's not going to happen. I feel quite confident I won't be paying out.
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Is that 10 in his entire Sheffield united career or 10 this season? Either way you've won that bet pal.
 
Kendal said:
My Blackburn supporting colleague still goes on about Brewster's goal there a couple of seasons back. Was it Brewster's last goal for us?He's convinced Brewster will score again tomorrow
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His last goal was against Stoke in October 2022.

We lost 1-0 at Blackburn that season.
 
Blademan18891889 said:
No it really isn't, he's absolutely nowhere near the level of a championship player, he's not good enough, wilder needs to accept it too, no need to keep persisting with a truly atrocious player. We fucked up signing him and that's that.
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He was fine today and he’s been better than Ohare over the past month or so.
djbaldken said:
You must be watching through Brewster shaded spectacles!

I had the Blackburn commentary on , as he went off their commentator said ' for a £20 million player I 've had more touches than him today'

Totally true. Once again he was abject!
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He wasn’t even close to being the worst player on the pitch and had a couple good balls to Rak Sakyi. Blackburn were clattering into him half the time, hence why he came off.
 
Blade45 said:
He was fine today and he’s been better than Ohare over the past month or so.

He wasn’t even close to being the worst player on the pitch and had a couple good balls to Rak Sakyi. Blackburn were clattering into him half the time, hence why he came off.
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Blackburn got away with far too much today. Should have had more bookings and a red.
 
There seems to be plan to change his position into an attacking midfielder and I just don't see it. The times I noticed him it was running back towards his own goal and shielding the ball. O'Hare seemed to be ahead of him much of the time. I'd rather just play Brooks or Peck if he's going to do that. I don't really understand the logic. Campbell was noticeably further forward when he came on. His assets are pace and a powerful shot. If you're going to play him then have him further up.
 
robbiez666 said:
There seems to be plan to change his position into an attacking midfielder and I just don't see it. The times I noticed him it was running back towards his own goal and shielding the ball. O'Hare seemed to be ahead of him much of the time. I'd rather just play Brooks or Peck if he's going to do that. I don't really understand the logic. Campbell was noticeably further forward when he came on. His assets are pace and a powerful shot. If you're going to play him then have him further up.
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Watching him it’s his movement that has to improve if he’s going to fulfil any potential he has. I appreciate that he’ll have played all his youth career with top international players that will put chances on a plate to him. But in Championship / lower end premiership football you’ve got to make more happen for yourself.

You see that with Moore, he never stops works despite things not always going his way. Maybe injuries have just zapped all his confidence to sprint without fear of pulling something.

Its a real shame that its not working out for him, the club has invested so much money in the lad you’re sat watching him desperately hoping he has a stroke of luck - well most of us are anyway! Some moan at the sight of him.
 
Millhousesblade1889 said:
Watching him it’s his movement that has to improve if he’s going to fulfil any potential he has. I appreciate that he’ll have played all his youth career with top international players that will put chances on a plate to him. But in Championship / lower end premiership football you’ve got to make more happen for yourself.

You see that with Moore, he never stops works despite things not always going his way. Maybe injuries have just zapped all his confidence to sprint without fear of pulling something.

Its a real shame that its not working out for him, the club has invested so much money in the lad you’re sat watching him desperately hoping he has a stroke of luck - well most of us are anyway! Some moan at the sight of him.
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That right there. Sad to see as I don't think he has faith in himself to run at full tilt.

That said the Blackburn players were quick to leave one on him and O'Hare during the match.
 

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