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Honestly….what did he do that was outstanding?
Created a nice chance and took a shot, perhaps should have played in Rak to likely
Miss but other than that he was sharp for 5 minutes.

If he starts he’s on the wing, because we know very well he can’t do loan striker, and certainly not from the start.
 
He is getting better and better and will make a difference this season if he stays fit.
I expect Moore to start on Saturday to combat the physical presence of Luton
 
PeterNdlovu081 said:
If you think that was very impressive then you're letting your pro-Brewster bias cloud your judgement.

He did okay, nothing more, nothing less.

Wilder doesn't trust him to start, that's why he went with Campbell tonight.

Whether that's largely because of his injury record or not we don't know.
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And you’re letting your Anti-Brewster bias cloud your judgement.
 
First time I’ve actually seen him look like a footballer. Hope I wasn’t hallucinating.
 
There is a top top forward in him 100% and I will happily die on that hill he has everything you would want in a striker touch/finishing/shot power/pace

He just hasn't ever had a run of games or kept his fitness, what's the most amount of games he has started in a row? What 3 or 4 games?

He hasn't looked this fit and strong since he signed for us he simply has to start it really is now or never for him

Play Hamer as a 10 and Brewster on the Left for a run of games 6/7 games in a row from the start it's not rocket science Chris
 
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Brewster did what he's been paid to do and when he does is lauded as the next coming of Brian Deane, see also Wolves away in the prem.

Hopefully he ends his 2 year goal drought soon.
 
Grizzly blade said:
If he starts he’s on the wing, because we know very well he can’t do loan striker, and certainly not from the start.
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i think I mentioned this earlier in the season but we may have accidentally stumbled onto his best position just behind a main striker.

A more than handy replacement for a gassed O'Hare and even worth a start now and then.
 
Pollingtonblade said:
Brewster did what he's been paid to do and when he does is lauded as the next coming of Brian Deane, see also Wolves away in the prem.

Hopefully he ends his 2 year goal drought soon.
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Hopefully he does. And hopefully it’s against Luton. And hopefully he starts.
 
Brewster hasn't got 100 minutes in him. Unfortunately for him, and us, his injuries dictate how he is used and not his actual ability. I like the lad, there is definitely a player in there, but we are still nursing him through games. For me, we are doing fine bringing him on for last 20 mins or so when the opposition is leggy. He's doing well - I'd absolutely love the kid to score a goal, that would do his confidence a world of good.
 
Slim Man said:
If I’m saying it, he must be playing pretty well. Cos I’ve been much less than kind about him.

Was outstanding today, and much more effective (again) than O’Hare.

Perhaps should’ve passed to JRS but you can’t begrudge him a shot after working a chance.

Looked very lively these past few and his link up has been great. He’s got that explosive acceleration that can take him away from defenders and playing in these pockets is really suiting him.

Give the lad the start he deserves against Luton and then a few games after. He will never get going without a run of games.

If he’s still not done anything after that, fine - but you have to give him a chance. And I think he’s earned that.

And as for anyone who suggests he hasn’t played pretty well in his last few appearances, or that he’s ’running his contract down’ you’re simply letting your anti-Brewster bias cloud your judgement.

We literally all want this to turn out well, and he’s doing his very fucking best. And it might, might, just be good enough… very impressive for me tonight.
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Took my daughter to the game last night who has absolutely no interest in football.
For reasons I won’t go into, she analyses and see’s things in a different way to me and you.
After the game, I asked her who her standout player was, No7 when he came on was her response.
Tells me all I need to know that he should be starting.
 
For a striker he may well have pace, he may well have a powerful shot, he may well have touch (possibly) but five goals in four seasons says he is NO finisher.

Chris, not being a rocket scientist, but who is actually a football manager, knows this. Which is why, atm, Brewster only gets a cameo role.
 

djbaldken said:
For a striker he may well have pace, he may well have a powerful shot, he may well have touch (possibly) but five goals in four seasons says he is NO finisher.

Chris, not being a rocket scientist, but who is actually a football manager, knows this. Which is why, atm, Brewster only gets a cameo role.
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From looking at the stats that I can find for last season, he made 13 appearances total.

What would you expect an xG to be for a striker making 13 appearances? Maybe 13 goals, 1 per game? or maybe 6.5? or 3?

His xG last year was 0.34. Total.

Bashy - 8 apps - 041 xG
Luke Thomas - 12 apps - 0.69 xG
Slimane, - 15 apps - 0.8 xG
Holgate - 10 apps - 0.93 xG
Lowe - 12 apps - 0.94 xG

All played similar games with a higher xG.

19 players in the team with a higher xG.

I get that is just one season but for him to play 13 times and the total of the chances he was provided only expected him to score 0.34 times all season, probably doesn't show that his finishing is bad.

Just that he either doesn't get in the right places to score (quite possible/probably), but absolutely says that he never had an actual good chance to score.
 
TheGregBlade said:
Bashy - 8 apps - 041 xG
Luke Thomas - 12 apps - 0.69 xG
Slimane, - 15 apps - 0.8 xG
Holgate - 10 apps - 0.93 xG
Lowe - 12 apps - 0.94 xG
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Of the five you quite here NONE are recognised strikers . And in Thomas, Holgate and Lowe you have arguably three of the poorest signings for a long time.

There's only one stat that counts, and that is actual goals scored!
Five in four seasons is not good however way you look at it.

For the record, I'd LOVE it, (no I'm not Kevin Keegan) if Brewster achieved his potential and started banging them in like a few think he will.
But imho it's not going to happen.
 
I agree with the OP in that I wouldn't have a problem in Brewster starting in theory but then when I start to think of where and who else could play there and he suddenly drops down the list for me.

If we rested O'Hare, I think I would want Hamer to move Centrally and then have Brooks and Rak-Saki start...

Its not that Brewster doesn't deserve a chance, just where and when is the question.

I also don't mind a player that only comes on at 60 minutes and that is their role, especially if they make an impact.
 
Need to give him a go alongside Moore, 2 up front, should be the starting formation, especially at home.
 
djbaldken said:
Of the five you quite here NONE are recognised strikers . And in Thomas, Holgate and Lowe you have arguably three of the poorest signings for a long time.

There's only one stat that counts, and that is actual goals scored!
Five in four seasons is not good however way you look at it.

For the record, I'd LOVE it, (no I'm not Kevin Keegan) if Brewster achieved his potential and started banging them in like a few think he will.
But imho it's not going to happen.
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He would need to be given chances to achieve his potential. The data shows that he's feeding off scraps.
 
Play Brewster and favour red/white coats/jumpers (to blue ones) on match days.

I think we're universally agreed.
 
I don't mind Brewster, I want him to do well, and to do well for us. The guy must have mental resilience levels that are off the scale.

None of his recent challenges and horrific injury record are due to professional negligence, a lack of professionalism, out of choice or were in his control. People lose sight of that. He wants to be playing, scoring goals.

But start him? No. We simply need to avoid breaking him. We are lucky that in a squad that is lacking in depth, we do have a few like-for-like replacements that we can bring on, with 20-30 minutes to go, to see out a game. He is one of those. That has to be his primary role. His body has been so broken, for so long that 20 mins+ against tiring teams, where the majority of the sprinting and counter attacks have finished, is his ideal. Build his confidence from there. Win-win.
 
Pollingtonblade said:
Brewster did what he's been paid to do and when he does is lauded as the next coming of Brian Deane, see also Wolves away in the prem.

Hopefully he ends his 2 year goal drought soon.
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He will, then he will leave us for free!
 
TheGregBlade said:
He would need to be given chances to achieve his potential. The data shows that he's feeding off scraps.
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The data is just that, data.
There are lies, damn lies and then there's statistics.

I have a bet on with someone on here , he reckons Brewster will score more than ten goals this season. I'm sure he wont.
So far, my money is safe.
 
djbaldken said:
The data is just that, data.
There are lies, damn lies and then there's statistics.

I have a bet on with someone on here , he reckons Brewster will score more than ten goals this season. I'm sure he wont.
So far, my money is safe.
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Even if he started every game, or we could even have him play some part in every game for 30 to 90mins (physically), your bet would still be more than safe. He played really well against Swansea but he's been here over 4 YEARS and there's been nothing to suggest that he will/can become an important player for us. As it's been said many times, it's probably largely down to bad luck (though even from the off, we never saw it), but we need to move on from this hope. Some things don't work out - this gamble on a young player is one of those.
 
djbaldken said:
The data is just that, data.
There are lies, damn lies and then there's statistics.

I have a bet on with someone on here , he reckons Brewster will score more than ten goals this season. I'm sure he wont.
So far, my money is safe.
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Who took that bet?
 

Brewster is playing well enough to start.
The issue is as to whether he's yet fit enough for that - he (still) has played very little football for a long time.
At a personal level, he is playing for huge stakes. If he does his hamstring again any time soon, then I think that's it for him at a decent level. I doubt that we would offer him a new contract at the end of this season, and I don't think anybody else would either, given that injury record.
I still believe in him, and he deserves the chance to carry on with what we've been doing, ie gradually build up his game time from the bench. He's going to be on the scoresheet soon. We need to be patient in getting the benefit while minimising the risk.
 
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