Squad Ratio Rules?

[The Fox]

Surely it will benefit the pigs as with 20k attendances being twice that of most other league one clubs they’ll be able to spend more than the other clubs in the league.

True but at 50% thats a bit of a leveller especially when youve got to buy alot of players , you've nothing to sell and still have Ugbo on 20k a week probably eating 3 salaries.

 

[Houston_Blade]

Let’s see if they actually punish deviations. FFP breach is something that’s been widely circumvented and/or unpunished, the EFL will find their teeth when we fall foul though I’m sure.

 

[I should coco]

Surely it will benefit the pigs as with 20k attendances being twice that of most other league one clubs they’ll be able to spend more than the other clubs in the league.

Ahem, they average 30k regulary.

Why, as recently as 1968, they managed 31,639.

 

[Bladesman]

 

[Bladesman]

 

[Carlton Blade]

Good. A semblance of sound financial management will finally be required.

Sell to buy, don't give out stupid 3 or 4 year contracts to players with no resale value. Player wages will likely take a hit, at least replaceable players. No more back up right back on £1m a year etc for anyone.

 

[Carlton Blade]

Accountant explains spending the money you actually have.

He's such a fucking Twat

 

[Bladesman]

Accountant explains spending the money you actually have.

He's such a fucking Twat

Sheffield United accounting expert I will have you know.

 

[Uganda Blade]

If El Accounto is correct, the scenario is far from bleak: selling Peck bridges the gap; offloading some dross reduces the wage bill and if the owners can find 10m, we even have a modest transfer budget.

 

[Bladesman]

If El Accounto is correct, the scenario is far from bleak: selling Peck bridges the gap; offloading some dross reduces the wage bill and if the owners can find 10m, we even have a modest transfer budget.

Just need someone like Celtic to give us solid cash for McGuinness. If we can blag them with Trusty then we can do it again.

 

[LS5 Blade]

Just need someone like Celtic to give us solid cash for McGuinness. If we can blag them with Trusty then we can do it again.

Luton are saying exactly the same thing about us!

 

[LBA_Blade]

To say our rumoured wage budget (including Tom Davies, Mee and Ings) is £31.55 million for the year, those 3 combined rumoured to be £4.36million a year that takes us down to around £27million in wages Hamer's salary is in the region of £1.5mill a year and then any fee we get for him will about balance the books to the new target. To bring anyone new through the door we need to be either having a slight owners cash injection or sell someone else to fund other transfers. Peck's salary won't be breaking the bank but income raised through either offloading him would allow us to bring in potentially a couple of signings. Not forgetting that "frees" have agent fees and signing on bonuses that need to be included. That being said, I don't think we will be in that bad of a position and that target isn't unachievable, if we can get Marsh fit, we could get a small fee there which could be enough for a loan inbound to cover wages. It is going to be playing a trading game but as long as we have assets coming through the academy that can assist the first team for a short while before being sold on for a fee we will tick over ok.

 

[SE1Blade]

There will be six (not cheap) loan players off the wage bill plus Mee, Ings & Davies (all not cheap).
I think this should give us enough room to manoeuvre.
If we could sell some of RND, Shackleton, McGuinness, Matos & Cannon then that would be a bonus.

We only need a few signings (2 defenders and a pacy wide man) without any further sales. Rest should be made up from academy.

If we do happen to sell Gus, Peck or any other than that gives us even more room.

 

[Snowflake]

Is there a difference between turnover, revenue and income when related to these rules ?

 

[Houston_Blade]

Is there a difference between turnover, revenue and income when related to these rules ?

They’re all different words for saying the same thing.

 

[Need4speed]

To say our rumoured wage budget (including Tom Davies, Mee and Ings) is £31.55 million for the year, those 3 combined rumoured to be £4.36million a year that takes us down to around £27million in wages Hamer's salary is in the region of £1.5mill a year and then any fee we get for him will about balance the books to the new target. To bring anyone new through the door we need to be either having a slight owners cash injection or sell someone else to fund other transfers. Peck's salary won't be breaking the bank but income raised through either offloading him would allow us to bring in potentially a couple of signings. Not forgetting that "frees" have agent fees and signing on bonuses that need to be included. That being said, I don't think we will be in that bad of a position and that target isn't unachievable, if we can get Marsh fit, we could get a small fee there which could be enough for a loan inbound to cover wages. It is going to be playing a trading game but as long as we have assets coming through the academy that can assist the first team for a short while before being sold on for a fee we will tick over ok.

Remember allk clubs are going to be in the same boat, hopefully agent fees are something we look at as we have been one of the clubs paying the most.

 

[LBA_Blade]

Remember allk clubs are going to be in the same boat, hopefully agent fees are something we look at as we have been one of the clubs paying the most.

Yeah that is true, it will be interesting to see how it affects agents if it does or not or if the players will take the hit for greed.

 

[Need4speed]

I actually think it is a good thing, average, poor, old, injury prone players and agents paid way too much. But I would have liked a transition period.

 

[andy m]

I may be wide of the mark here but surely the revenue used for the calculations must be based on previous season? The EFL cannot predict future income.

 

[CityInPeace]

The messenger isn't great but the message is quite interesting (if he's being honest).

I may be wide of the mark here but surely the revenue used for the calculations must be based on previous season? The EFL cannot predict future income.

I think clubs themselves have to put in a Forecast it has also been in Shadow Form this year. I mean a club any club whose Parachute Payments are ending, Luton in League One eg still operating as if they have £40m TV money plus a few million EFL would be a bit crazy no?

 

[CityInPeace]

Let’s see if they actually punish deviations. FFP breach is something that’s been widely circumvented and/or unpunished, the EFL will find their teeth when we fall foul though I’m sure.

I dunno the EFL do go after Clubs more. Loopholes aplenty shut. Since 2018.

*Birmingham, -9, Fee Ban, Loan Fee Ban, charged the following year for failing a Business Plan. During 2018-19 renewing existing deals.
*Derby, -9 and -3 more suspended subject to Business Plan adherence. Many Embargoes. Had issues renewing existing deals.
*Reading, -6 and -6 more suspended, banned from paying Fees or Loan Feez effectively from Summer 2020 and the -6 activated late in 2022-23 for breaching a Business Plan which sent them down. Settlement of sorts but paid no Fees or Loan Fees for 3 seasons and hd issues renewing existing deals.
*Sheffield Wednesday, -12, halved because they put Hillsborough in the wrong year, anyway they went down.

*Leicester -6, reduced from -7 due to improved trends and no Fees this season. Under EFL Regs they'd have hoped for -12 or -11 probably PL and EFL hybrid.
*WBA- -2, down from -3 due to improving Numbers, small breach and worked with the League for 2 years.

Now the PL version is soft as by comparison.