Spanish Newspaper slags Blades over Brexit

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HodgysBrokenThumb said:
Don't think many of their fans would describe themselves as Catalan. They see it as a club based in the Spanish city of Barcelona. In their current squad of 28 players, only 2 have Catalan surnames. An article about this in the Daily Express, perhaps...?
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Well for whatever reason, the club decided to change their name to 'Espanyol' from the Castillian 'Español' in 1995. They presumably thought it important enough to incorporate some form of Catalan identity.

Catalonia always had people with Falangist/Francoist leanings. Even FC Barcelona was cosier with the regime than people think, and certainly more so than their airbrushing of history as some symbol of clandestine Catalan resistance would suggest.
 



derfblade.3 said:
Total Brexit: Only British play in Sheffield United
  • Her trainer believes that speaking only English in the wardrobe fosters a spirit of camaraderie

Our trainer is a woman who speaks English in the wardrobe?.....I no understand Manuel.
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Thinking back to my cat house Spanish I think Su entrenador in this context means their trainer not her trainer.
 
Tyler Durden said:
Well for whatever reason, the club decided to change their name to 'Espanyol' from the Castillian 'Español' in 1995. They presumably thought it important enough to incorporate some form of Catalan identity.

Catalonia always had people with Falangist/Francoist leanings. Even FC Barcelona was cosier with the regime than people think, and certainly more so than their airbrushing of history as some symbol of clandestine Catalan resistance would suggest.
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True. Both clubs know which side their bread's buttered on. But when they changed their name to Espanyol with Catalan spelling, they also changed the Spanish word Deportivo to Desportiu, which is neither Spanish nor Catalan. These petty nationalist symbols, eh? Talking of symbols, I admire your ability to find the n the squiggle on it. I can only write Espanol on here, which makes me feel (even more) inadequate.:mad: But I have discovered emojis.:)
 
vorpal blade said:
I'm not one to jump on spelling mistakes but it is important here,

Athletic Bilbao is the name of the team - deliberately (re) using the English spelling Athletic.
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(Pedantic footnote warning) Except under Franco, when under law they were obliged to use the Spanish word in their name.
 
HodgysBrokenThumb said:
Talking of symbols, I admire your ability to find the n the squiggle on it. I can only write Espanol on here, which makes me feel (even more) inadequate.
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On your keyboard, hold down ALT, type 0241 [on the number keys on the RHS] then release ALT.
Try it now. Reply to this with an ñ so I know you've got it. ;)
 
d933ee36-3934-494e-b1df-582a86dc22c5.jpg Spain is a net receiver of EU funding, therefore when a net contributor (i.e. Britain) leaves, then they will have less grant from the EU.

Living in a famously depressed town in the North of England, but having travelled to Coruña at the height of the Spanish 'depression' and yet finding it infinitely better off and better appointed than any Northern English City and having witnessed brand new railway stations in Spain, travelled on superb brand new trains, having travelled on decadent outdoor escalators in Toledo etc. etc. ........

..........I drew the conclusion that Spain was pulling a fast one, it's accountants as sly as those of the German (read EU) Government are complaisant.

One awaits the result of the forthcoming vote on separation in Cataluña with interest, nor am I bothered by this newspaper's reaction to it.



Vanguardia is only anti-Brexit because Brexit may hit them in the wallet, to attack a relatively minor football club and it's (publically) apolitical manager shows some desperation.

"it's the economy stoopid"
 
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HighfieldBlade said:
On your keyboard, hold down ALT, type 0241 [on the number keys on the RHS] then release ALT.
Try it now. Reply to this with an ñ so I know you've got it. ;)
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You need to be a genius to sort me out with technology. I am using an IPad. I could do what you describe on a laptop, but I can't find ALT anywhere on this machine. Viva Espa0241a. :(
 



HodgysBrokenThumb said:
You need to be a genius to sort me out with technology. I am using an IPad. I could do what you describe on a laptop, but I can't find ALT anywhere on this machine. Viva Espa0241a. :(
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Hmmmmmmm...I've never used an iPad:confused:. Try holding down the n key for a second and see if any options pop up, including ñ.
 
Hodgy, I use a Mac®,

third from the left on the bottom row, my key says "alt" and "option" press this down at the same time as an "n" and it produces the squiggle then type 'n' again and with a bit a bit of luck you produce a ø.
 
LoughboroBlade said:
Actually, this would be a perfect thing for The Star to do a response in the press fighting our corner – and ideally attacking The Vangrauniad's local team, area, and country. I'm sure Danny04 is pitching this as we speak...
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Wouldn't even know where to start. Truly bizarre
 
This stuff is libellous as fuck, surely?

My knowledge of defamation law is hazy, but what do you think, Danny04?

"Honest opinion" defence, perhaps?
 
I would suggest that all evidence shows that the readership of this website is better informed than the writership of The Star.

How many of the Star's star reporters are Spanish? if it's nil, then necessarily, the broader population of Sheffield/Britain - including Spaniards, as it does - will be more Spanish, and therefore, I submit, more likely to have heard of and read la Vanguardia.
 
beatific blade said:
This stuff is libellous as fuck, surely?

My knowledge of defamation law is hazy, but what do you think, Danny04?

"Honest opinion" defence, perhaps?
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It's presented as factual rather than an opinion piece IMO, so honest opinion might be a struggle. In this climate, I'm sure a lawyer could argue being presented as 'Mr Brexit' could be damaging to someone's reputation
 
I felt (biased as I am) that Vince Cable's calling Boris Johnson a Liar at the Liberal Undemocrat Conference was sailing as close to the wind as an MP ever should outside the House.

He was relying on Johnson's better nature and status as Minister of one of the Great Offices of State, not to get sued.
 
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vorpal blade said:
How many Star reporters will have even heard of la Vanguardia before this posting on S24SU would you say?
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I can imagine the Editor of The Stir discussing this (J. Jonah Jameson style)...
"La Vanguardia, you say? Sounds like a decent player. Are Wednesday signing him in the JTW? We need our journos on this ASAP- cover it from every angle. I need his backgound, goal-scoring record, price tag, why he chose SWFC over everyone else. Waddaya waiting for? Get to work on it!!"
 
vorpal blade said:
I felt (biased as I am) that Vince Cable's calling Boris Johnson a Liar at the Liberal Undemocrat Conference was sailing as close to the wind as an MP ever should outside the House.

He was relying on Johnson's better nature and status as Minister of one of the Great Offices of State, not to get sued.
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Plus, he's clearly in decline, and not from a great starting point.
 
Danny04 said:
Done. http://www.thestar.co.uk/sport/foot...spanish-newspaper-over-squad-policy-1-8763111
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On a quick reading, I have a couple of suggestions. Are the quotes fron Wilder genuine? They may well be, but I missed them. If they are, then the article is a clear case of taking quotations out of context and mis-using them. Can you make this clearer?
The other thing is that the Spanish text on La Vanguardia's website says that Wilder did not say HOW he voted, which to me is deliberately suggesting that he was asked and declined to answer, evading the question. If he has never been asked this question, and I imagine he wasn't, then the article is malicious as well as bullshit.
And good on you for taking this up.
 



vorpal blade said:
I felt (biased as I am) that Vince Cable's calling Boris Johnson a Liar at the Liberal Undemocrat Conference was sailing as close to the wind as an MP ever should outside the House.

He was relying on Johnson's better nature and status as Minister of one of the Great Offices of State, not to get sued.
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I think you may have a point, I also think that suggesting that Boris lied wouldn't be difficult for a decent solicitor.

Where I disagree is that it wouldn't be Johnson's better nature that would decide whether to sue or not. I think those that advise Johnson would sway his decision against suing. Johnson is a scoundrel, an opportunist who attempts to further the belief that he has the necessary talent to govern. In this respect he's not that different to many of his colleagues. What Johnson reveals is a talent reminiscent of the carnival snake oil charmers that used to exploit the gormless masses who'd attend their stall. Boris makes claims that are rarely allowed to be spoken down by an opponent. The repeated message is a proven tool of those who choose to manufacture facts to suit their purpose. This is what Boris has revived to a semi-successful level, but in Johnson's position it's a case of so far and no further.

Cable did what I expect a member of Parliament to do, and that's to represent those who voted for him in a way that is honest and truthful, even if it results in breaking Parliamentary protocol. Why should protocol get in the way of speaking honestly? I know that some people have a preference for acting in a servile manner where protocol is concerned, but Cable behaved in a manner that I, and I imagine many others, have for far too long been denied. It's time that those who receive the public vote remembered who delivered their job to them.

I rarely disagree with you HB, so tick this off as a rare disagreement.
 
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