Sky's Justification Of The Offside

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Image how I felt, jumping up like a loony celebrating the last minute goal in front of a pub full of pigs only to then glance up at the tv to see the lino holding his fucking flag up at the same time as the pork noticed. Had to crawl back to my seat looking like a right twat whilst being jeered by the whole fucking lot. Thanks lino you prick.
 



shrubbery said:
Image how I felt, jumping up like a loony celebrating the last minute goal in front of a pub full of pigs only to then glance up at the tv to see the lino holding his fucking flag up at the same time as the pork noticed. Had to crawl back to my seat looking like a right twat whilst being jeered by the whole fucking lot. Thanks lino you prick.
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Yeh cos they must have been so proud of their draw at home to QPR
 
Pikeyblade said:
Nobody in the sky studio seemed to pick up on this fact either. Which means if they are being paid for their astute observations on a game of football they should probably give the money back.
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No it means they couldn't give a fuck because the team they expected to win did so
 
Even before kick off, you could smell the SKY bias. Gave a break down and critique of the Boro Squad and said NOTHING about the Blades squad. Murdoch's cocklikers, the lot of em.
 
The Lino was shouting no5 no5 through his microphone , naming joc as offside, just as I was shouting useless bastard at him. I am gob smacked at sky's pathetic attempt to justify that weasels mistake. Bastards
 
Fraggle Blade said:
chris Iwelumo on channel 5 footie says it was deffo a goal......
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Too all except an incompetent twat of a linesman. Fuk me, the useless prick flagged Freeman offside earlier when he was only about 2 yards on.

I dont think the lino was bent. I just think he was shite. Though I do wonder if he would have put his flag up if Boro had jusy knocked one in to level in the 92nd minute. I have my doubts.
 
Grizzly blade said:
Closer than the sky claims, but still not bang on at the same time of the kick.
I reckon the second pick is just before Duffy strikes it.
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There is a photo that shows on the second pic the ball is in flight and over the head of the one man wall
 
Fanny magnet said:
There is a photo that shows on the second pic the ball is in flight and over the head of the one man wall
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I replied to the lad who put a picture up which still shows JOC onside but that was still not in sync with the moment the ball was hit in the first picture.

Let's be right.
It's still an incredibly tight decsion, and we are talking split seconds here. The Lino can't see the ball being struck and can't look in two places at once.
As it is it's been found to be an error this time, and he keeps his flag down and he would have been lauded for a great bit of officiating.
This happens in football, you generally win some and lose some. The human element is part of the game.

The question is, do we want more technology controlled matches?
On sky's "evidence" it seems to me that the technology needs to be ramped up a bit to make sure it's fit for purpose....or that the person responsible for providing the footage isn't either a cheating prick or a fucking incompetent.
But for crucial decisions like these there has to be a justification for getting the decision right at all costs. 30 seconds out to review the footage would have made no difference to the game. The ball was dead.
Even if it's so close it's difficult to be 100% certain the law states the decision should go with the attacking side.

If this was the way it worked then everyone would accept it, no reason to doubt, no point of argument.

In Cricket, they can track a small ball travelling at 90 mph, take into account its flight and movement off the pitch to accurately predict where the ball will travel if it hadn't been deflected/stopped by the batsmen.
You can't tell me that they can't develop a system to definitively tell if a man has wandered beyond the last defender.
 
Grizzly blade said:
I replied to the lad who put a picture up which still shows JOC onside but that was still not in sync with the moment the ball was hit in the first picture.

Let's be right.
It's still an incredibly tight decsion, and we are talking split seconds here. The Lino can't see the ball being struck and can't look in two places at once.
As it is it's been found to be an error this time, and he keeps his flag down and he would have been lauded for a great bit of officiating.
This happens in football, you generally win some and lose some. The human element is part of the game.

The question is, do we want more technology controlled matches?
On sky's "evidence" it seems to me that the technology needs to be ramped up a bit to make sure it's fit for purpose....or that the person responsible for providing the footage isn't either a cheating prick or a fucking incompetent.
But for crucial decisions like these there has to be a justification for getting the decision right at all costs. 30 seconds out to review the footage would have made no difference to the game. The ball was dead.
Even if it's so close it's difficult to be 100% certain the law states the decision should go with the attacking side.

If this was the way it worked then everyone would accept it, no reason to doubt, no point of argument.

In Cricket, they can track a small ball travelling at 90 mph, take into account its flight and movement off the pitch to accurately predict where the ball will travel if it hadn't been deflected/stopped by the batsmen.
You can't tell me that they can't develop a system to definitively tell if a man has wandered beyond the last defender.
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Don't get me wrong decisions go your way sometimes and others they don't
The thing that has got under my skin is prutton the ex pig trying to close down the offside debate by showing us two frames at different times
Either he is incompetent and doesn't understand the off side law or is deliberately misleading us

If in his defence he was shown this by the production staff and didn't have the time to thoroughly check it he is incompetent anything else he is deliberately misleading us to close the debate about wether the goal (which was an own goal anyway and couldn't have been offside)should have stood
 



In the second pic it's also obvious the ball has already been kicked as all the players are looking upwards rather than across towards Duffy. You need every point you can scrape in this division, there are no easy games, no let up. Beyond frustrating.
 
The pictures presented on the right have no relevance at all. For them to be relevant they need to be showing the moment Duffy struck the free kick. The pic on the left does, which shows O'Connell to be onside. End of debate!!!!
 
At least level when Duffy plays the ball,although it is tight I think it was the wrong decision image.jpeg
 
Although i feel shit about the decision i would hate technology to to come into the decisions, after all, we are having a discussion on was it or wasn't it. This is what footy is about. Controversy breeds conversation and gives us the chance to make up our own minds . Leave things like this to the officials. We will get bad decisions for other teams going our way and will take it.
 
Sothall_Blade said:
They should just review every goal as a matter of course.

The ball is dead for a while before the restart anyway, so it wouldn't slow the game down and would avoid most of the key bad decisions that afffect the outcome of games.
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Agree 100%, immediately after such an incident it's either a free kick or a kick off, neither of which would be significantly delayed by a the fourth official reviewing the footage, as long as the footage is supplied by an impartial 3rd party and not those cheating twats at Sky :mad:
 
What I don't like about the linesman's action is the idea that he can judge a margin of at most about 20cm at a range of 50m.

At a racecourse they understand parallax error and that it's impossible to judge which horse's nose is ahead at the winning post from just one side of the track, that's why they used to have a strip of mirror running down the middle of it - you must line the horse up with its mirror image to know you are truly in-line and therefore can discriminate accurately between winner and loser. Even ammeters have mirrors on the dial for the sake of accuracy.

Yet football, ignores the impossibility of judging who is ahead of who in the case of offside.

Didn't they introduce a sound rule a few years ago that there must be daylight between two players to truly judge that one of them is offside?


What happened to that rare bit of common sense?



p.s.

Parallax is a displacement or difference in the apparent position of an object viewed along two different lines of sight, and is measured by the angle or semi-angle of inclination between those two lines. The term is derived from the Greek word παράλλαξις (parallaxis), meaning "alternation"

....wikileaks
 
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Apart from anything does it count if a player's arm is offside? is it the chest, a foot, the head???

In athletics its the chest, torso or trunk that has to cross the line first .... though in elephant polo I understand they make a distinction.
 
vorpal blade said:
Apart from anything does it count if a player's arm is offside? is it the chest, a foot, the head???

In athletics its the chest, torso or trunk that has to cross the line first .... though in elephant polo I understand they make a distinction.
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It's any part of the body that you can score a goal with is how I understand it, vb.
 
Now I do not know which of the Boro players in the box is Adam Clayton, but in the Sunday Telegraph he says "didn't think it was offside at the time" Boro players didn't immediately appeal either, and they would have known too.

It's just a mistake by an official - shit happens and it should even out later in the season.

UTB
 
shrubbery said:
Image how I felt, jumping up like a loony celebrating the last minute goal in front of a pub full of pigs only to then glance up at the tv to see the lino holding his fucking flag up at the same time as the pork noticed. Had to crawl back to my seat looking like a right twat whilst being jeered by the whole fucking lot. Thanks lino you prick.
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Not just you... It had a worldwide audience, so thousand were doing the Same!
 



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