Incoming? Siriki Dembele

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The problem with Sheffield is a lack of money and a lack of imagination.

All we seem to do is copy. There are very few things about Sheffield which are actually unique or we were there first. And when we are, they're never fully supported.

New bars, restaurants, pubs are usually either chains or a copy of something else.

We have the same main chain shops in the centre as everywhere else but little innovation or entrepreneurism outside of that. You could go and take a trip round the northern cities and play guessing games about what is coming next.

The buildings Hitler didn't destroy have been systematically replaced with boring identikit versions of Leeds.

We are the home of football but no one has had the whit to build a football museum and it's only now the council have decided to play up on it. We had the best breweries in the UK a few years ago and instead of backing them they just carried on while other places were innovating and supporting. The beer drinkers of Sheffield largely want to drink things from outside of Sheffield. All the fancy beers but little support from breweries and bars for each other.

We create very little and what we do well in we'll either downplay it or rather have a copy of something else.

"....We are the home of football but no one has had the whit to build a football museum and it's only now the council have decided to play up on it...."

There were plenty of people asking the council to step in, when The Plough (the pub opposite Hallam FC/Sandygate, the oldest ground in the world) was for sale, asking that they consider turning it into a museum/bar/cafe, to celebrate Sheffield's connection to the creation of football. The club historian, at Hallam FC, had scans of original newspaper articles, from all those years ago, not only about football, but the cricket, fell running, and other things, connected to the Sandygate ground.

He wanted to print them off, frame them, and have the on show inside The Plough (or the "Visitors Centre", or whatever it would have been called), he also had all the original football trophies, like the Youdan Cup, and lots of others (again, including very old Cricket trophies as well), which they occasionally loan to FIFA, to have on show in the FIFA HQ. He wanted to have the trophies on show, instead of gathering dust in an industrial strength safe.

Too late now, the building will be demolished.
 
I think we’re hammering on sheffield a little bit too much here. It’s not Manchester, Liverpool, Leeds or York but it does have a burgeoning food scene and there’s some really good entertainment amenities in the city centre in recent years you’ve seen a new mainstream cinema in the light open plus other smaller concerns like Curzon. A lane 7 bowling alley has just opened as well. Sheffield also has two very large well respected universities with all the accompanying amenities that go hand in hand with large student populations. If the proposed Adidas complex is built in the John Lewis building including rooftop pitches then that’ll be another flag ship new entertainment building in the city centre

Every city has its areas of extreme deprivation Sheffield doesn’t compare unfavourably to a Nottingham, Derby or Leicester to my mind. And is certainly much better than plenty of other towns and cities up and down the UK with similar sized clubs
The JL Building is not fit for purpose, so.................. gone to Leeds.
Did we not reinvent ourselves as the City of Sport 30 years ago with then two Division one ( Old ) then Premier League Teams - just reflect on that missed opportunity we had them - why oh why did they think the World Student Games would get wall to wall TV coverage hear ffs 30 minutes at 11.00 pm on the 4th channel a joke and look at that legacy it left behind -
 
Measure of Sheffields pull is we couldn’t even hang on to a John Lewis store in the city centre. One day we will be a case study of how extreme socialist council rule can grind a city into the ground.
If you think Sheffield council.is extreme socialism then the avatar is very apt
 
Outside the London belt
first tram - fucked that up others watched and did it better
first international airport offer in the North - nope turned it down so it went to Manchester then we ended up with one with such a short runaway that hardly any bugger could land on it - sold a quid
First state of the art Arena - see above re first tram
First City to reinvent itself as the City of sport having state of the art facilities built (by mainly contractors from outside South Yorkshire) with no medium long term sustainable plan - stupid enough to think the World Student Games would regenerate this City, when they could have put themselves in a position for the Commonwealth Games and a proper potential legacy - DVS great under used facility left to rust like a morph of S6
First American themed shopping Complex - See everywhere but mostly Manchester and how they did it
There you go- and I didn't mention football once
Agree on all points but Meadowhall, think it's one thing we can be proud of. I've been to a lot of shopping centre's in the country and for me only Trafford comes close.
 
I love it but still think it's a bit of a dump outside the city centre. There's nowhere as bad as Page Hall anywhere outside of London. The whole north side of Sheffield is a clear sign of multiculturalism gone wrong.

There's plenty of decent places to eat in town, but it's mainly curry houses. I think drinking in terms of bars is getting better with that street up the side of the city hall.

But still, something all these better cities have is something indoor in the centre, vibrant, with bars and restaurants and even things like laser quest or bowling alleys. We have nothing of the sort and no plans for it.
There is a bowling alley just off the Moor.
 
To be fair, Sheffield at least seems to be doing something about its image at the minute. You only have to stick your head out of a window somewhere in the city centre & you’ll see a crane or hear some kind of building work going on. Especially down Kelham Island way, the building works seem to have started almost as soon as Rona hit & it’s still going on now.
 
I love it but still think it's a bit of a dump outside the city centre. There's nowhere as bad as Page Hall anywhere outside of London. The whole north side of Sheffield is a clear sign of multiculturalism gone wrong.

There's plenty of decent places to eat in town, but it's mainly curry houses. I think drinking in terms of bars is getting better with that street up the side of the city hall.

But still, something all these better cities have is something indoor in the centre, vibrant, with bars and restaurants and even things like laser quest or bowling alleys. We have nothing of the sort and no plans for it.

When was you last in the city most of the curry houses have disappeared.
There is only a fraction of the amount there was in the 80's.
 
I have always thought that cities like Sheffield could learn a lot from Vienna, a smallish city with a climate similar to the UK, loads to see and do, a lot of it free also with a lot of countryside around it, most of it comes from innovation, vision and a commitment to make life better for the people they serve as a local council - that is why it constantly tops the charts for one of the best places to live in Europe.

Vienna is a stunning city. Clean, vibrant, affluent. I had a great week there a few years ago.
 

Little known fact; he has a younger brother called Yaya Dembele who plays semi pro football for Shirebrook Town and lives in Shiregreen
 
I have always thought that cities like Sheffield could learn a lot from Vienna, a smallish city with a climate similar to the UK, loads to see and do, a lot of it free also with a lot of countryside around it, most of it comes from innovation, vision and a commitment to make life better for the people they serve as a local council - that is why it constantly tops the charts for one of the best places to live in Europe.
Vienna has the huge advantage of being a capital city, meaning it's flooded with wealthy diplomats and politicians and that funds a lot of the cool stuff going on there. I'm not saying there isn't something to learn but they have a huge advantage
 
Vienna has the huge advantage of being a capital city, meaning it's flooded with wealthy diplomats and politicians and that funds a lot of the cool stuff going on there. I'm not saying there isn't something to learn but they have a huge advantage

Try Going to Brussels, Lots of diplomats, wealthy ones! Loads of EU money swishing about, but Brussels itself is frankly a bit unkempted, badly maintained by the local Town Hall, in fact parts of it are a shit-heap, every time i've been to Brussels I moan to my my wife how how badly it's maintained, Vienna on the other hand, well run, well maintained by the Town Hall, infrastructure superb, my only complaint would be that there are very few descent supermarkets in the city itself, but still a great place to visit
 
Try Going to Brussels, Lots of diplomats, wealthy ones! Loads of EU money swishing about, but Brussels itself is frankly a bit unkempted, badly maintained by the local Town Hall, in fact parts of it are a shit-heap, every time i've been to Brussels I moan to my my wife how how badly it's maintained, Vienna on the other hand, well run, well maintained by the Town Hall, infrastructure superb, my only complaint would be that there are very few descent supermarkets in the city itself, but still a great place to visit
It's 30 years since I went to Brussels and it was in pretty good shape then. Certainly the bits I went to. I was actually going to say, a bit like Brussels in my original post, because I remember thinking it seems to have a lot going on for a smallish place.

Sounds like it's gone down hill since then.
 

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