Should Wilder go?

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Well?

  • Yes

    Votes: 90 40.7%
  • No

    Votes: 38 17.2%
  • Wait and see until end of season

    Votes: 81 36.7%
  • Don't know

    Votes: 4 1.8%
  • Did Mark ever find out where he lives?

    Votes: 12 5.4%

  • Total voters
    221
I get where you’re coming from… but act in haste and repent at leisure for me.

They should be identifying a long term replacement for me and that might take time …

Someone similair to Slav who despite all the pelters was trying to change the culture of the club not just the 11 on the pitch.

As a club I think we are at a really important period … get it right and take some short term pain and we could become an established prem club.

Get it wrong and decide as of mediocracy will follow.
I just cannot see Wilder turning this around so surely it must be worth the gamble.

Agree with the Slav comment though.
We have to change as a club,
football has changed dramatically but some of our fans are still stuck in the 80's and 90's. You just know if Wilder did go it would be get Billy Sharp he knows the club or Nick Montgomery.
Just have too hope the new owners can see past the "he's a United type manager".
 

I just cannot see Wilder turning this around so surely it must be worth the gamble.

Agree with the Slav comment though.
We have to change as a club,
football has changed dramatically but some of our fans are still stuck in the 80's and 90's. You just know if Wilder did go it would be get Billy Sharp he knows the club or Nick Montgomery.
Just have too hope the new owners can see past the "he's a United type manager".
You’re wasting your time if you think Wilder will go before the end of the season. We could lose every game until the playoffs & he’ll still be in charge of us for them.

If we don’t go up via the play offs I think it’s a fair debate in the summer but we’d have to act quick to employ a nice person & get the squad he wants
 
I just cannot see Wilder turning this around so surely it must be worth the gamble.

Agree with the Slav comment though.
We have to change as a club,
football has changed dramatically but some of our fans are still stuck in the 80's and 90's. You just know if Wilder did go it would be get Billy Sharp he knows the club or Nick Montgomery.
Just have too hope the new owners can see past the "he's a United type manager".
I think some misinterpret the situation re: Slav. He came in and assumed he'd be coaching the first team. Turns out, due to our Bladey McBladey infrastructure, we wanted him to scout for new players, do the strength & conditioning, actually negotiate the deals for players, buy the players, oversee the Youth setup, wash the kits, make the tea, drive the team bus..... His entire track record was based on him doing nothing more than coach c20 players... Total mismatch for what we ask the 'manager' to do.

Until we change this ridiculous infrastructure, sadly we're stuck with the Wilder Cult!!
 
I can see why the OP was posted. But it is a good reason why the fans are not in charge. We are too reactionary!

Yes, you can say it’s been coming for a while or we’ve won games we didn’t play well in. But that goes for many Championship teams too. It’s a hard league. 26 wins stands up well no matter how they come or what order they arrive in. No team plays like 1970s Brazil each week. Wind back a few months and Burnley fans had had enough of Parker and he’s a good chance of winning the league.

We were on our arse at the end of last season. Most predictions were ranging from being grateful we didn’t drop another division, being happy to consolidate in mid table or perhaps the most optimistic squeezing into the play offs.

I think some 16 players left, many being those that helped us up on prior occasions. The wage bill must have been slashed heavily. Some of those were offloaded for decent cash.

We went for largely young players with a potential to grow like Burrows and Cooper and we blooded youngsters like Peck, Seriki, Oné and Arblaster some more.

Arblaster looked like he’d give valuable goals from midfield only to cruelly succumb to injury. Another cruel blow was Souttar having a season ending injury. All the time, we nurses Campbell and Davies through absences to name but two not to mention Souza. We’ve operated most of the season without our first choice midfield and half of it without our best centre half.

Despite this, on the field the players have achieved 85 point to date. Even with the -2, finishing on 95 points would make it more than a little interesting! It probably won’t be enough even to catch Leeds and Burnley. It’s been an exceptional year. United will win more than any team probably. Burnley will have the historical clean sheet record and Leeds will end with a colossal goal difference.

We have to look at the whole. These last 3 games have been sapping for fans, players and management alike. The win over Coventry took us top and we probably thought we’d done it. What came next was just unfathomable. But it’s just the Championship. Never any gimmes. But the season has been a good one. We may well even now exceed the points total of our prior three promotions; 90 in 2006/7, 89 in 18/19 and 91 in 22/23 even with the points deduction.

I’m largely against changing managers. It’s expensive and there are no guarantees. Hecky aside who also got us in the Play Offs, most of our managerial changes end up being duds. So please be careful what you wish for.

We are a better team than Coventry, than Bristol City. West Brom and Boro. Our results against them directly and the 19-23 point gap shows that. Perhaps we are only slightly ahead of Sunderland. But despite losing we kind of battered them in the away game, getting in their box more than they got into ours, having more shots and 66% ball dominance. In the home game they shaded some of the stats but we won. We will only play them in a one off game. We can definitely beat them. Their form has also fallen away over a more sustained period. They lost to Swansea yesterday.

Yesterday relieved the pressure. It’s highly unexpected we will go up automatically now. We may as well go at the final 4 matches gung Jo. We could at least give the others something to think about on the final day.

We’ve come a long way. We lost 3 or 4 at the start of the Wilder era. Perhaps at the end we will lose 3 or 4, but it’s the whole that counts. While there’s hope let’s not get too entitled and start throwing the baby out with the bath water in what can still be a 90+ point season.

UTB
 
Based on the last three games, performances and how we've reacted to high pressure situations and adversity, I have to disagree....

Based on the season overall we are better, this is just an unfortunate blip.

We will get promoted either in play offs or sneak 2nd.
 
I know YorkBlade was, but the current direction on here I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s a thread advocating it by Wednesday morning!
Oh I agree, exactly the sort of parochialism that a section of our fan base has always had
 
Changing a manager now will gain nothing , if you remember we rolled the dice on this in 2014 around a similar point in the season with the Danny Wilson for Chris Morgan change with no change in outcome or performances
I would give Wilder to the end of the season if we’re unsuccessful then yes I would call time on his tenure.
Even the best managers would need a preseason to mould his side to play how he wants not the 3 weeks why we’ve got now ⚔️
 
This fanbase is mental. To reference another poll, this is how fans voted before the season started, on where we would finish.

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You can probably take some of the Champions and relegated votes with a pinch of salt, but even so, only 21.7% of fans thought we'd get promoted automatically.

44% thought we wouldn't even make the play offs.

By the vast majority of fans' own opinions, we have overachieved this season by even being in a promotion race, and I doubt any other manager could have kept this squad in touch with Leeds and Burnley, who are both going to achieve a ridiculous points total.

There are obviously issues at the minute, but the prediction poll just shows how OTT the reaction is.
 

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