Should we start play acting?

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Because if Bogle had gone down like he had been punched, Zaha would have got a straight red. Likewise, was the Eze challenge any better than Lundsram's against Brighton? At least Lundstram got the ball first!
I sincerely hope not.
Technically Zaha should have been sent off without Bogle collapsing, but that would be ruining the game. It should have been a yellow card
 
Because if Bogle had gone down like he had been punched, Zaha would have got a straight red. Likewise, was the Eze challenge any better than Lundsram's against Brighton? At least Lundstram got the ball first!

We were saying this last season.

Although this season has proved we are shit at play acting as well.
 
I pretty sure if it not included in the refs report Zaha could still be in trouble.

I don't get why he would do that a 2 nil up.
 
I reckon teams in the prem bring in acting coaches given how many of the nonces fall around like theyre auditioning for Brokeback Mountain 2. 🤣
 
Because if Bogle had gone down like he had been punched, Zaha would have got a straight red. Likewise, was the Eze challenge any better than Lundsram's against Brighton? At least Lundstram got the ball first!
It seems VAR can’t be relied upon for anything so in short yes.
 
Its called being proffesional, every other team would have got zaha sent off. Were too honest and it costs us
 
Because if Bogle had gone down like he had been punched, Zaha would have got a straight red. Likewise, was the Eze challenge any better than Lundsram's against Brighton? At least Lundstram got the ball first!

If Bogle had done that he'd have looked a right twat. And VAR would have overturned the red and gave a yellow card because that's all it was worth at most.
 



This is why players go down, anyone remember Leigh Bromby at Everton? Definite penalty but not given because he stayed on his feet. It's now 2021 and we seemingly still haven't learned that lesson yet.

You're a mug if you don't go down after contact in football, it's been that way for 25 years +.
 
This is why players go down, anyone remember Leigh Bromby at Everton? Definite penalty but not given because he stayed on his feet. It's now 2021 and we seemingly still haven't learned that lesson yet.

You're a mug if you don't go down after contact in football, it's been that way for 25 years +.

There's a world of difference between going down if you're fouled and throwing yourself to the floor to try and get another player sent off which is what the OP was saying.
 
If Bogle had done that he'd have looked a right twat. And VAR would have overturned the red and gave a yellow card because that's all it was worth at most.
I'm not saying he should, but I think he would have got a red. I remember a player getting red carded in the Man Utd Tottenham game for as little.
 
Yes, its sadly apart of the modern game. With the state of officiating you are actively putting yourself at a disadvantage if you are not using it.
 
I'm not saying he should, but I think he would have got a red. I remember a player getting red carded in the Man Utd Tottenham game for as little.

No chance. A hand in the face or round the neck is a red these days, but that was more like a pat on the back of the head. If the ref had fallen for it VAR would have overturned it anyway. We'd have been fuming if our player had got a red for that.
 
Call me old-fashioned but I still don’t understand how playing the ball can result in a red card and yet direct contact in the same area of the leg isn’t. I also don’t understand why neither decision seemed to be reviewed by VAR, especially the Zaha incident which the ref clearly didn’t see.
 
I've said this before a few times, the ref today looked at bogle, bogle made the refs mind up and his job easy, were 2-0 down, so we're fucked anyway but at 1-1 and if this was villa he's walking and they are against 10 for 40 minutes...

Zaha, shared a joke with bogle a few second later. Possibly laughing at our "honest gritty northern" tactics..

If you still call playing the ref and the rules cheating, then have a look at yourselves, people complain at grealish winning 60 free kicks.. The refs are baught into it.. He knows it... Imagine the set pieces where we are then a threat..

It's not football as we know it..

But we can't beat them and that's a fact.. Do we join them?

Or be laughed at as we go down.. Like Zaha did today..

(it's horrible, wank, and cheating, bit it's the Premier league)
 
It's not why we lost, but no. I've got no problems with winning nasty and not being nice, but the rolling around on the floor and the fact it's unpunished, and never called out as outright cheating, is right up there as one of the worst things wrong with modern football. I'd rather we didn't sink to that.
 
The refs all buy falling after a foul, rolling around teamates gang rape the ref he calls it.
If you want to play in the PL you have to act like them there is no reward from the refs for being honest. If you don't go down and raise your arms after the fact they just smile at you. As if saying thanks that just saved me from making a decision.
 
Because if Bogle had gone down like he had been punched, Zaha would have got a straight red. Likewise, was the Eze challenge any better than Lundsram's against Brighton? At least Lundstram got the ball first!
no because it's pathetic.

Townsend gave out a massive CRY in the 2nd half - hardly touched - again, pathetic response by seasoned professional bred in the dark arts.

UTB
 



It's one of the very few things to be proud of regarding the players this season.
McBurnie apart we don't seem to have anyone that actively looks to "win a foul"

Townsend today was an embarrassment. Falling down and squealing whenever contact was made.
Zaha's seemingly serious ankle injury miraculously vanished as soon as he hobbled slowly off the pitch.
 

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