Shoreham Boys- offensive?

[Jon Bon II]

Shoreham boys has the potential to be our best song bar none…if it wasn’t for that one particular line.

What would replace it though?

'Feed your kids puberty blockers and allow them to become gender fluid - whoa-whoa whoa-whoa whoa'.

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

It's clearly offensive and embarrassing, unless you don't think a woman is equal to a man.

I genuinely don't get why singing about having sex with women implies offense or inequality.

 

[robbiez666]

I genuinely don't get why singing about having sex with women implies offense or inequality.

The song that treats women as possessions, you mean?

 

[AlienWoodward]

My version these days...

Shoreham boys we are here whoa whoa
Shoreham boys we are here whoa whoa
Shoreham boys we are here I can't get it up when I've had a beer

 

[Greasy Chap Butty]

The song that treats women as possessions, you mean?

Well that's the question, it wasn't meant as an argument. Personally I don't think it does portray them as possessions. Part of the problem is different people interpret it in different ways and react accordingly.

 

[Davalon]

Women can have penises so it's not as sexist as portrayed. Or is it?

Tis funny seeing the mental gymnastics that get performed today by people.

 

[robbiez666]

Well that's the question, it wasn't meant as an argument. Personally I don't think it does portray them as possessions. Part of the problem is different people interpret it in different ways and react accordingly.

It's "shag YOUR women", which is the possessive. It's YOUR beer , because you bought it. It treats women as second class citizens and just belongings of men. It's pathetic and shouldn't be near our club in 2023.

But then there are a very vocal set of fans who think rape is ok, so what do you expect?

 

[robbiez666]

And for the record, I used to sing this song and I was wrong and pathetic for doing so.

I'm not better than anyone, but I just want this song to fucking die.

 

[FTPE]

It's clearly offensive and embarrassing, unless you don't think a woman is equal to a man.

Eh?

 

[BiggerBladeThanThou]

I’m a fairly liberal person and in general pretty left-leaning and as a millennial Londoner would be one of the first to be called part of some London wokerati by big Jonathan Gullis, but do you not think there’s something good about football matches having a tiny bit of edge? Having fans saying certain things about other fans? Any kind of racist, homophobic or any similar type of abuse is plain wrong, but a line like this in a song is such a meaningless jibe about fans trying to one up other fans that I don’t think it’s a great issue. If you try and reduce every song down so it’s welcoming to all you’d fast lose all passion. And part of growing up is understanding you will be in certain environments that aren’t particularly welcoming and learning how to deal with it. Maybe I’d change my mind if I had daughters but if I did and I brought them I’d tell them to pay it no notice because football fans can say stupid things. And they do.

Pal I’m not petitioning for it to be cancelled. I just don’t sing it for reasons stated.

 

[FTPE]

It's "shag YOUR women", which is the possessive. It's YOUR beer , because you bought it. It treats women as second class citizens and just belongings of men. It's pathetic and shouldn't be near our club in 2023.

But then there are a very vocal set of fans who think rape is ok, so what do you expect?

Your...as in, the women and beer of Blackpool, Barnsley, Chesterfield, Hull.
Fuck all to do with possession.
We don't assume YOUR beer means the blokes pint he's already paid for.

 

[Millhousesblade1889]

3 of my daughters have been singing that for years along with their fellow female Blades.

Excellent, it completely took me off guard when I first heard it

 

[VictoryBlade]

I used to sing it..as a younger. Then I got married, got her into football and now she comes to the odd game. I don’t sing it anymore, it’s quite awkward when going with your wife

'Love your women and drink you beer' simples

 

[BiggerBladeThanThou]

At some point your daughters are going to grow up and discover that men want to shag women.
I'm sorry they might hear about it too early through this chant (my daughter sings we are women, we drink beer btw) but until they ban swearing and drinking at games, things like this will be sung

Again, as stated…I’m offering a view on why I don’t sing it…not for it to be cancelled.

And to your point…that’s rubbish, that’s akin to saying let’s introduce kids to anything because they’ll soon know about it when they’re adults. Weird take.

 

[robbiez666]

Your...as in, the women and beer of Blackpool, Barnsley, Chesterfield, Hull.
Fuck all to do with possession.
We don't assume YOUR beer means the blokes pint he's already paid for.

Your is a possessive word, unless you're arguing that most of our fanbase are lesbians it is obviously misogynistic

 

[Gin&Juice]

Someone ask ChatGPT to make a less sexist version and shut the fuck up.

In all seriousness. It’s a chant. The original Billy Boys chant is a sectarian piece of shit that deservedly needs banning. The less offensive offspring’s are exactly that.

Should we ban the following songs -

Thin lizzy - Boys are back in town
Sabrina - Boys Boys Boys
Gazza - Geordie Boys (Gazza Rap)

Jokes aside. It’s a terrace anthem taken as tongue in cheek, it doesn’t and shouldn’t reflect mine and many others view on women.

 

[Katzenjammer]

It’s not about being offended. It’s about showing respect to my young daughters.

And I completely understand. If I was attending the match with young girls in tow, I'd certainly think twice about singing it myself.

Just know that when I do sing it, I'm not out to disrespect anybody. It's just exaggerated laddish bravado. I couldn't be more removed from that sort of behaviour if I tried.

 

[robbiez666]

Women can have penises so it's not as sexist as portrayed. Or is it?

Tis funny seeing the mental gymnastics that get performed today by people.

you can graft a penis onto your head for all I care

 

[Klaatu Barada Nikto]

Should we ban the following songs -


Sabrina - Boys Boys Boys

You can ban the song if you want, just don’t remove the music video from YouTube. I will watch it in silence if I must.

 

[LondonBlade89]

Pal I’m not petitioning for it to be cancelled. I just don’t sing it for reasons stated.

Alright, fair enough. Obviously misunderstood your original post. I’ve issue at all with people singing or not singing, obviously.

 

[Blade.com]

I've been bringing my daughter since the 90s and now bring my Grandaughter ( until kop ticket fiasco) and to be honest Shoreham boys song is one of the least offence things we hear. Train, pub and in the ground the horrible language that is spewed out of some people's gobs is horrendous.
What makes it worse is that today's society thinks it's OK and acceptable. But we do know before we come that we will be hearing it on the train, pub and ground, unfortunately. Do we accept it, yes. Do we like it , NO!!!.

 

[Gin&Juice]

You can ban the song if you want, just don’t remove the music video from YouTube. I will watch it in silence if I must.

Still played in all its glory on Now 80’s

 

[Tom Bott]

It's clearly offensive and embarrassing, unless you don't think a woman is equal to a man.

Why ?

Without procreation (shagging) man - kind would cease to exist.
Unless you believe that children should be created in a test tube.

If man - kind ceased to exist, there would be no debate, as all the snowflakes would have melted.

If anyone thinks that there are no women, who just want a shag, needs to get out more.

I now identify as 'plus' for gender and Jedi for religion so there is no misunderstanding where I stand.


Mankind, that word needs to be expunged...

 

[Klaatu Barada Nikto]

It's "shag YOUR women", which is the possessive. It's YOUR beer , because you bought it. It treats women as second class citizens and just belongings of men. It's pathetic and shouldn't be near our club in 2023.

But then there are a very vocal set of fans who think rape is ok, so what do you expect?

The your in both cases relates to the women and the beer in the area of the opposing team.

 

[HD8 Blades]

Should only be sang at away games I think, an if anybodys offended then tough shit get over it. My lad when he was around 7-8yrs used to think it was "shake your willy an drink your beer" I just let him sing what ever he wanted

I’m singing this from now on

 

[Birdwell Blade]

What a load of bollocks that this is even being discussed. And then people wonder why there's no atmosphere at the Lane anymore. Shag birds, sup beer, sing loud and enjoy life. Don't be a sad, dull leftie, Guardian reading whimp.

I’ve just started reading the Guardian. What’s up wi it?

 

[Scarebus]

It's "shag YOUR women", which is the possessive. It's YOUR beer , because you bought it. It treats women as second class citizens and just belongings of men. It's pathetic and shouldn't be near our club in 2023.

But then there are a very vocal set of fans who think rape is ok, so what do you expect?

It's not that deep mate.

 

[robbiez666]

What a load of bollocks that this is even being discussed. And then people wonder why there's no atmosphere at the Lane anymore. Shag birds, sup beer, sing loud and enjoy life. Don't be a sad, dull leftie, Guardian reading whimp.

easy choice really, if you think singing the song is good then you agree with the Charlie Bronson of S2 4verse

 

[robbiez666]

It's not that deep mate.

Imagine being a girl going to the games surrounded by hordes of drunk, coked-up, bald fat men chanting about shagging women. I bet it's lovely atmosphere for them.

 

[Ainsley Harriott]

The song that treats women as possessions, you mean?

Isn't there an organised religion that does this?