Blade56
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I posted this in response to a reply to Booker4 when we were discussing the fans 'getting behind the players'. The full exchange can be viewed on the 'Wilders Comments Today' thread. It followed me being somewhat put about at some lets say 'fruity exchanges' by other S24SU members (some new some not so new) regarding out current situation.
Rather than post a similar derivative of the same thing to the zillion Wilder, McCabe, fans out threads I thought I'd just pop it up here so everyone can view my thoughts on where we are and shoot it down, agree, whatever.
Totally agree B4 and if I look back 1 or 2 seasons ago I probabley posted something similar when I was more frustrated with the fans than the players and still thought we were going to turn it round. I don't agree with geering players mistakes but I think what's happening is fan by fan the feeling of dispare is taking over. You have a slightly longer fuse maybe.
Here's the rub, football is going through an evolution and we (the club) are not going with it. Clubs like Bournemouth, Brentford et al with money backers are and they will evolve into the new 'big clubs'. We sense this in the stands and sitting at the foot of the third division with a realisation 'it can get worse' and probabley will is causing the fan base to implode. As a fan base we are unique in that I can't think of another club that has fallen this low for so long and continued to maintain 'big club' gates. As part of our evolution we will turn fan on fan. The era of the clapper and the slasher quietly passed away unnoticed a couple of seasons ago, now it's fan on fan and not nice.
The atmosphere at games is toxic, there are nice regular family type people in the stands arguing with each other and with every home defeat and lack lustre performance it gets worse, they can't give it the players so they are turning on each other (as is evident on forums). The era of the much maligned booing is passing away, only a ripple at half time and full time remains but the ironic geering has been born and is growing.
This toxic evaluation will continue and although (I'm guessing) younger supporters like yourself don't believe it can get any worse it can unless something is done other than the owners trying to run it on the cheap and cover their costs. It's a question of diverging objectives, we want PL football with top players and some kind of success. The owners want a club that gives them that BUT generates money. Unfortunately they are not prepared to or are unable to invest with the big boys in case it goes wrong and they lose some of their precious money. Curse me for saying it but look at the shambles the pigs were in, worth nowt, shame of the disaster in the public eye, crackpot owners, fans deserting them, falling down the league. Then along comes one of the richest dolphin killing companies in the world and no one is bothered about possible environmental crime because their open wallet has positively affected their evolution. As much as it is disgusting to say they will make PL and the success we 'nearly' had and crave in the next few seasons. Our evolution will only be downward unless something changes. Not the manager (Although I think successive managers have gotten worse), not he fans, not the players it's the owners and their methods, objectives and commitment to a new evolution as well as their willingness and/or ability to keep up with the filthy evolution of the beautiful game born out of the PL, Murdock and Scudamore.
There, venteted, feel better. Meh, we're fooked.
I would like to have this discussion with our owners but alas, I'm not worthy, I'm just a fan.
Footnote sorry SwissBlade dint get you to check spelling and grammar in advance
Rather than post a similar derivative of the same thing to the zillion Wilder, McCabe, fans out threads I thought I'd just pop it up here so everyone can view my thoughts on where we are and shoot it down, agree, whatever.
Totally agree B4 and if I look back 1 or 2 seasons ago I probabley posted something similar when I was more frustrated with the fans than the players and still thought we were going to turn it round. I don't agree with geering players mistakes but I think what's happening is fan by fan the feeling of dispare is taking over. You have a slightly longer fuse maybe.
Here's the rub, football is going through an evolution and we (the club) are not going with it. Clubs like Bournemouth, Brentford et al with money backers are and they will evolve into the new 'big clubs'. We sense this in the stands and sitting at the foot of the third division with a realisation 'it can get worse' and probabley will is causing the fan base to implode. As a fan base we are unique in that I can't think of another club that has fallen this low for so long and continued to maintain 'big club' gates. As part of our evolution we will turn fan on fan. The era of the clapper and the slasher quietly passed away unnoticed a couple of seasons ago, now it's fan on fan and not nice.
The atmosphere at games is toxic, there are nice regular family type people in the stands arguing with each other and with every home defeat and lack lustre performance it gets worse, they can't give it the players so they are turning on each other (as is evident on forums). The era of the much maligned booing is passing away, only a ripple at half time and full time remains but the ironic geering has been born and is growing.
This toxic evaluation will continue and although (I'm guessing) younger supporters like yourself don't believe it can get any worse it can unless something is done other than the owners trying to run it on the cheap and cover their costs. It's a question of diverging objectives, we want PL football with top players and some kind of success. The owners want a club that gives them that BUT generates money. Unfortunately they are not prepared to or are unable to invest with the big boys in case it goes wrong and they lose some of their precious money. Curse me for saying it but look at the shambles the pigs were in, worth nowt, shame of the disaster in the public eye, crackpot owners, fans deserting them, falling down the league. Then along comes one of the richest dolphin killing companies in the world and no one is bothered about possible environmental crime because their open wallet has positively affected their evolution. As much as it is disgusting to say they will make PL and the success we 'nearly' had and crave in the next few seasons. Our evolution will only be downward unless something changes. Not the manager (Although I think successive managers have gotten worse), not he fans, not the players it's the owners and their methods, objectives and commitment to a new evolution as well as their willingness and/or ability to keep up with the filthy evolution of the beautiful game born out of the PL, Murdock and Scudamore.
There, venteted, feel better. Meh, we're fooked.
I would like to have this discussion with our owners but alas, I'm not worthy, I'm just a fan.
Footnote sorry SwissBlade dint get you to check spelling and grammar in advance
