Sheffield United 21st in All-Time Top Flight Table

[THFC6061]

Sheffield United are in 21st place in the All-Time Top Flight Table from 1888-89 to 2010-11.

The Blades have amassed 2,363 points during their participation in the Top Flight of English Football.

Pos Club Points
1 Liverpool 5,099
2 Arsenal 5,018
3 Everton 4,923
4 Manchester United 4,786
5 Aston Villa 4,525
6 Chelsea 3,692
7 Tottenham Hotspur 3,685
8 Newcastle United 3,593
9 Manchester City 3,569
10 Sunderland 3,272
11 Blackburn Rovers 2,905
12 West Bromwich Albion 2,824
13 Sheffield Wednesday 2,781
14 Bolton Wanderers 2,779
15 Derby County 2,510
16 Leeds United 2,455
17 Wolverhampton Wndrs 2,443
18 Nottingham Forest 2,404
19 Middlesbrough 2,401
20 West Ham United 2,377
21 Sheffield United 2,363
22 Birmingham City 2,137
23 Burnley 2,045
24 Stoke City 1,968
25 Leicester City 1,839


Altogether, 64 different clubs have participated in the Top Flight since season 1888-89.

Full details and the complete table are available but I've been requested not to post a link to my site.

 

[richmondblade]

That's funny that, because I did once work out that our average league position from 1-92 since1889 was 19th, which is not far off really. I suppose it shows that we are capable, with a bit of good management on and off the field, of holding our own in the top flight (just).

 

[Wards]

Why can't we get a link to the site?!

That's not me having a pop by the way, just curious like

 

[Houso]

If it's the same poster of 365 fame, it's most likely got lots of Anti-Islam sentiment on there!

Sorry THFC, only jesting. I'm assuming you are the very same THFC though yes?

 

[Grecian2000]

Two of those 25 teams are likely to be below the second tier next season. Brings a tear to the eye.

Do Sky allow tables like that, it's almost as if football existed before they did.

 

[Bath Blade]

Two of those 25 teams are likely to be below the second tier next season. Brings a tear to the eye.

The pigs and Derby?

 

[GRUMPY BLADE]

Sheffield United are in 21st place in the All-Time Top Flight Table from 1888-89 to 2010-11.

The Blades have amassed 2,363 points during their participation in the Top Flight of English Football.

Pos Club Points
1 Liverpool 5,099
2 Arsenal 5,018
3 Everton 4,923
4 Manchester United 4,786
5 Aston Villa 4,525
6 Chelsea 3,692
7 Tottenham Hotspur 3,685
8 Newcastle United 3,593
9 Manchester City 3,569
10 Sunderland 3,272
11 Blackburn Rovers 2,905
12 West Bromwich Albion 2,824
13 Sheffield Wednesday 2,781
14 Bolton Wanderers 2,779
15 Derby County 2,510
16 Leeds United 2,455
17 Wolverhampton Wndrs 2,443
18 Nottingham Forest 2,404
19 Middlesbrough 2,401
20 West Ham United 2,377
21 Sheffield United 2,363
22 Birmingham City 2,137
23 Burnley 2,045
24 Stoke City 1,968
25 Leicester City 1,839


Altogether, 64 different clubs have participated in the Top Flight since season 1888-89.

Full details and the complete table are available but I've been requested not to post a link to my site.

Intersting where Man u are?

Take away the plane crash and were they really that big before the sympathy kicked in cus a lot of those points must have been amassed under Fergie

 

[Grecian2000]

The pigs and Derby?

Every chance now that Derby have been turned over by the Devils own team doing nothing but passing sidewards and boring them into defeat. Perhaps they'll not get another point all season.

Interestingly, without the Tevez relegation, we would probably be in 18th in that table.

 

[Wards]

Two of those 25 teams are likely to be below the second tier next season. Brings a tear to the eye.

Do Sky allow tables like that, it's almost as if football existed before they did.

That's one of my major irritants with Sky (there's a few to be fair) but it really is as if they believe that nothing pre-Premiership bears any relevance anymore. Football began in 1992 according to the majority of their stats.

 

[THFC6061]

Why can't we get a link to the site?!

That's not me having a pop by the way, just curious like

The powers that be on this site don't like it.

But I suppose if you send me a PM, they won't object to me giving you the link.

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If it's the same poster of 365 fame, it's most likely got lots of Anti-Islam sentiment on there!

Sorry THFC, only jesting. I'm assuming you are the very same THFC though yes?

Guilty as charged, Houso but there's no Anti-Islam sentiment on that page or any of the other 6,000+ pages on my site.

In fact, I go into the Arab & Islamic country's National Leagues in some detail.

 

[Selly]

The powers that be on this site don't like it.

But I suppose if you send me a PM, they won't object to me giving you the link.

The powers that be on this site don't like you spamming the board with the link every time you post.

I'm sure that if 90% of your posts were non-stat related and didn`t require a link to your site it wouldn`t be an issue. The problem is almost all of your posts could (with some justification in your eyes) have used the link.

 

[Bath Blade]

Has it been adjusted for three points for a win or is it purely based on number of points gained at the time, in which case it would be biased towards points gained in the last 25 years (of which we have spent very little time in the top flight).

 

[THFC6061]

Has it been adjusted for three points for a win or is it purely based on number of points gained at the time, in which case it would be biased towards points gained in the last 25 years (of which we have spent very little time in the top flight).

No, it's simply the points as awarded at the time.

But you do make an interesting point (no pun intended), so here's how the table would look at three points for a win from 1888-89 onwards...

1 Liverpool 6,253
2 Everton 6,176
3 Arsenal 6,127
4 Manchester United 5,744
5 Aston Villa 5,710
6 Manchester City 4,534
7 Newcastle United 4,521
8 Tottenham Hotspur 4,457
9 Chelsea 4,418
10 Sunderland 4,327
11 West Bromwich Albion 3,752
12 Blackburn Rovers 3,660
13 Bolton Wanderers 3,647
14 Sheffield Wednesday 3,552
15 Wolverhampton Wndrs 3,338
16 Derby County 3,303
17 Sheffield United 3,173
18 Leeds United 3,061
19 Middlesbrough 3,040
20 Nottingham Forest 2,949
21 Burnley 2,829
22 West Ham United 2,794
23 Birmingham City 2,746
24 Stoke City 2,586
25 Preston North End 2,403
26 Leicester City 2,309
27 Southampton 1,783
28 Portsmouth 1,774
29 Huddersfield Town 1,757
30 Coventry City 1,686
31 Blackpool 1,520
32 Ipswich Town 1,471
33 Charlton Athletic 1,318
34 Notts County 1,276
35 Norwich City 1,055
36 Queens Park Rangers 1,054
37 Bury 1,017
38 Fulham 1,008
39 Cardiff City 826
40 Luton Town 807
41 Wimbledon 729
42 Oldham Athletic 606
43 Grimsby Town 598
44 Bradford City 582
45 Crystal Palace 567
46 Bristol City 436
47 Watford 389
48 Brentford 274
49 Wigan Athletic 237
50 Brighton and Hove A 189
51 Bradford Park Avenue 147
52 Accrington 138
53 Oxford United 119
54 Swansea City 110
55 Reading 91
56 Millwall 79
57 Hull City 65
58 Northampton Town 43
59 Darwen 41
60 Carlisle United 41
61 Barnsley 35
62 Swindon Town 30
63 Leyton Orient 27
64 Glossop North End 22

...Sheffield United move up four places to 17th out of the 64 clubs who have participated in the Top Flight from 1888-89 onwards.

 

[Selly]

What happens if you remove the effect of the change from 2 to 3 points for a win, and instead count all wins as 3 points and draws prior to the change to 3 points as 1.5 points and draws since as 1 point, thus reflecting the weighting of the points available to the team at the time.

i.e. a draw in 1975 was worth 50% of a win, but only 33.3% of a win nowadays.

 

[THFC6061]

What happens if you remove the effect of the change from 2 to 3 points for a win, and instead count all wins as 3 points and draws prior to the change to 3 points as 1.5 points and draws since as 1 point, thus reflecting the weighting of the points available to the team at the time.

i.e. a draw in 1975 was worth 50% of a win, but only 33.3% of a win nowadays.

You arrive at the conclusion that life is too short.

 

[Rodders]

Merked by THFC :rofl:

 

[JohnDenver]

That's one of my major irritants with Sky (there's a few to be fair) but it really is as if they believe that nothing pre-Premiership bears any relevance anymore. Football began in 1992 according to the majority of their stats.

I'm sure I'm not the first but there's only one response to that....

What'chu talkin' 'bout, Willis?!

 

[Selly]

You arrive at the conclusion that life is too short.

Says the man with a stats based webpage that (by his own admission) stretches to some 6,000 pages...

 

[BusheyBlade]

38 Fulham 1,008

It's interesting to see how few points Fulham have. What happened to their supposedly glorious past? Oh yes, they are a small club in the Premiership off the back of a large amount of foreign money.

 

[dkc Blade]

That's one of my major irritants with Sky (there's a few to be fair) but it really is as if they believe that nothing pre-Premiership bears any relevance anymore. Football began in 1992 according to the majority of their stats.

Yes, it annoys me a lot too. Nothing really happened in 1992 except the top division was renamed, yet we are constantly bombarded with stats related to goalscoring feats, winning runs etc that ignore the 100 years of football before 1992.

It's disrespectful to ignore the teams and players that created records before the top flight was rebranded. The reason they do it, I suppose, is a) stats from 1992 are easier to assemble than stats from 1890 or whenever, and b) More "records" can be claimed to be broken, this giving more games "historic importance".

Of course, if a major "top flight" record is ever broken, they don't shy away from letting you know that too.

 

[THFC6061]

Here is the Top Flight Table for matches played after the Second World War...

1946-47 to 2010-11

1 MANCHESTER UNITED 3,975
2 ARSENAL 3,763
3 LIVERPOOL 3,529
4 EVERTON 3,107
5 TOTTENHAM HOTSPUR 3,076
6 CHELSEA 2,942
7 ASTON VILLA 2,653
8 MANCHESTER CITY 2,294
9 NEWCASTLE UNITED 2,247
10 WEST HAM UNITED 2,023
11 LEEDS UNITED 1,954
12 NOTTINGHAM FOREST 1,747
13 WEST BROMWICH ALBION 1,639
14 SOUTHAMPTON 1,633
15 WOLVERHAMPTON WANDERERS 1,609
16 COVENTRY CITY 1,500
17 SHEFFIELD WEDNESDAY 1,458
18 SUNDERLAND 1,371
19 LEICESTER CITY 1,338
20 BOLTON WANDERERS 1,315
21 MIDDLESBROUGH 1,312
22 BLACKBURN ROVERS 1,309
23 DERBY COUNTY 1,234
24 BURNLEY 1,224
25 IPSWICH TOWN 1,210
26 STOKE CITY 1,201
27 BIRMINGHAM CITY 1,182
28 QUEENS PARK RANGERS 969
29 NORWICH CITY 963
30 SHEFFIELD UNITED 949
31 CHARLTON ATHLETIC 943
32 BLACKPOOL 939
33 PORTSMOUTH 872
34 FULHAM 860
35 WIMBLEDON 729
36 LUTON TOWN 725
37 PRESTON NORTH END 576
38 CRYSTAL PALACE 514
39 HUDDERSFIELD TOWN 392
40 WATFORD 389
41 CARDIFF CITY 258
42 WIGAN ATHLETIC 237
43 NOTTS COUNTY 180
44 BRIGHTON & HOVE ALBION 164
45 BRISTOL CITY 141
46 OLDHAM ATHLETIC 140
47 OXFORD UNITED 119
48 SWANSEA CITY 110
49 READING 91
50 MILLWALL 79
51 HULL CITY 65
52 GRIMSBY TOWN 60
53 BARNSLEY 35
54 NORTHAMPTON TOWN 33
55 SWINDON TOWN 30
56 CARLISLE UNITED 29
57 BRENTFORD 25
58 LEYTON ORIENT 21

(Points as awarded at the time)

 

[Selly]

Yeah I don`t like that table as much...