Sander berge

[gordoncharles]

Sander is clearly an enormous talent but the injuries seem to have taken their toll on his confidence, especially for a young kid in a new country in Covid times.
I think he knows far more than any of us that he is not hitting the heights he can. So rather than spouting the obvious criticism that isn't working, he needs all the support we can muster.
How many players speak of the inspiration they get from BDTBL roaring the team on for a late winner. If that's the case would it not make more sense to boost his confidence using a bit of that magic?

Ignoring the Berge Bingo nature of your first sentence, in what way do you think he is "an enormous talent?"

I presume you're not talking about the fact that he's 6ft 7, so what is it about him that you think is deserving of this high level of praise?

 

[Bladeloyal]

Excellent post

Thanks

I rewatched the match after attending yesterday. Suffice to say, Berge was fine, and actually the better of the three midfielders in the first half.
United had a tactical issue yesterday with the fact our press was shocking. Sharp, Mcburnie and MGW were played through with little to no resistance resulting in an almost continuous numerical advantage in favour of Huddersfield. Hecky doesn't really have the option of changing to a lower block due to our lack of pace on the break, so this was an issue he rectified in the second half by playing Fleck as the highest midfielder in the press. This improved us somewhat with Fleck winning a few turnovers deep in their half.
MGW and Fleck barely won a ball in the first half which meant it was down to Berge and the backline to break things up. In possession, Berge gave well weighted passes to the players in front of him. What happened was the play continually broke down; usually when it reached MGW whose touch was positively elephantine. If there needs to be a scapegoat he's your man for yesterday. We could progress the ball from the deep lying midfielder forward, but not from that point to the strikers.
We defended very well yesterday, but this is also due to Huddersfield's toothlessness. They were only really threatening until the edge of our box.They lacked midfielder runners into the box to finish their good play off.
When Hecky rang the changes and brought Ndiaye on, Berge forward and Norwood deep United's press improved tenfold: we won more balls in the Huddersfield half than the three forward players that started the game. Berge also influenced things with his interplay, and breaking lines on the right hand side.
The left was a problem as Baldock invariably cut back on his right foot and crossed from far too deep. Catching practise for the goalkeeper. I personally feel we need a left footer there.
Mcburnie and Sharp has never looked like working. Out of possession they aren't athletic enough. In possession they like to occupy the same spaces: drop in, link and then arrive. I was looking at both of their numbers for almost the whole half when they were attacking our end, which says it all.

I'm surprised Ndiaye and Jebbison didn't enter the fray much earlier. Somebody that would stretch them and run in behind was needed. MGW looked incredibly rusty so should've been hooked if we continued with the same system. I can only presume that Ndiaye was in dire need of a rest.

Overall, it's good that the like of Berge, MGW, Baldock and Mcburnie got more minutes under their belt. Hopefully it benefits them in the future.United's man of the match was either Robinson or Egan.

Great post

 

[alcoblade]

You should try and sign him for that pub team you manage with your everyone should be like Monty and Browny attitude lol

The happy with one or 2 years out of every 20 in top league whilst we carry on playing the United way brigade

Comedy gold from the site numpty, as ever.

 

[SUFCinks]

Firstly I don't "slate him". I slate those who seem to think he's a misunderstood Rolls Royce who should be playing for a top team in a top 5 League, whilst I happen to think he's a workaday Championship midfielder who doesn't do much wrong, but doesn't produce anything either.

At half time on the match thread I replied to a poster who was criticising him by saying he'd been tidy - hardly slating him - to which you replied to me "Hes thread multiple passes through the centre, that have both gone forward and cut through the midfield"

So, because fortunately (or otherwise because I didn't actually enjoy the game much when it was on) I have a lot of time on my hands I have re-watched the first half. I was concerned that I'd got this wrong because I wasn't concentrating entirely on what Berge was doing but the game in general. But it turns out I was right.

The good news is that Berge made 26 first half passes, all of which found a Sheffield United player.

However.... none of them are the sort of passes you described. Every one was either square, to the wing back in space, or 5-10 yard simple balls. He played it through four times to MGW, twice he miscontrolled them, both from 5 yards away and both of those in our own half.

Now, I'm pleased he found our own players and I've seen a lot worse, but none of those passes was anything other than routine, and they definitely weren't creating anything through the centre.

he has a lot of potential, but still has a long way to go. I don't think he's a 'Rolls Royce' either but I do think he has the ability to be a prem standard player and totally agree that he could be a lot more adventurous. I had a quick scan as well and screenshot some examples all more than 5/10 yards or over, forward and all are taking multiple players out the game or leading to opportunities when he could have played safe instead + his shot second half.

I wouldn't give his a performance more than a 6/10 yesterday. He was fine, did the basics well, kept possession ticking over and had a few nice moments but could've done a more. Norwood generally plays that role better IMO. I'm hoping with more game time he works on his aggression and pushing the creative side of his game so we can utilise him further up the pitch.

 

[Ginger Gnome]

Only real issue I have with Berge is he doesn't like to just have one touch and often ignores an easy ball to Bogle when there's a counter attack on, stop completely turns around a few time then plays sideways or backwards after the opposition has had time to get everyone back.

When he's keeping play moving he actually looks good, he just needs to do it more

 

[Espania blade]

I rewatched the match after attending yesterday. Suffice to say, Berge was fine, and actually the better of the three midfielders in the first half.
United had a tactical issue yesterday with the fact our press was shocking. Sharp, Mcburnie and MGW were played through with little to no resistance resulting in an almost continuous numerical advantage in favour of Huddersfield. Hecky doesn't really have the option of changing to a lower block due to our lack of pace on the break, so this was an issue he rectified in the second half by playing Fleck as the highest midfielder in the press. This improved us somewhat with Fleck winning a few turnovers deep in their half.
MGW and Fleck barely won a ball in the first half which meant it was down to Berge and the backline to break things up. In possession, Berge gave well weighted passes to the players in front of him. What happened was the play continually broke down; usually when it reached MGW whose touch was positively elephantine. If there needs to be a scapegoat he's your man for yesterday. We could progress the ball from the deep lying midfielder forward, but not from that point to the strikers.
We defended very well yesterday, but this is also due to Huddersfield's toothlessness. They were only really threatening until the edge of our box.They lacked midfielder runners into the box to finish their good play off.
When Hecky rang the changes and brought Ndiaye on, Berge forward and Norwood deep United's press improved tenfold: we won more balls in the Huddersfield half than the three forward players that started the game. Berge also influenced things with his interplay, and breaking lines on the right hand side.
The left was a problem as Baldock invariably cut back on his right foot and crossed from far too deep. Catching practise for the goalkeeper. I personally feel we need a left footer there.
Mcburnie and Sharp has never looked like working. Out of possession they aren't athletic enough. In possession they like to occupy the same spaces: drop in, link and then arrive. I was looking at both of their numbers for almost the whole half when they were attacking our end, which says it all.

I'm surprised Ndiaye and Jebbison didn't enter the fray much earlier. Somebody that would stretch them and run in behind was needed. MGW looked incredibly rusty so should've been hooked if we continued with the same system. I can only presume that Ndiaye was in dire need of a rest.

Overall, it's good that the like of Berge, MGW, Baldock and Mcburnie got more minutes under their belt. Hopefully it benefits them in the future.United's man of the match was either Robinson or Egan.

Somebody commented with "A great post" well I would like to endorse and second this post.

 

[Brownieblade]

Comedy gold from the site numpty, as ever.

I can imagine you being the type to turn up at TC book launch and have a dig for being a bit to nesh

 

[Guesty]

I don't think people accused Currie of being nesh, did they? Didn't he once leave Tommy Smith face down in the mud?

 

[alcoblade]

I can imagine you being the type to turn up at TC book launch and have a dig for being a bit to nesh

I’m sure you can imagine all sorts fella. Given the vacuum in your football knowledge, you have to fill the void with something.

Wait until tomorrow so your brain can conjure up another thought.

 

[Bennyand the Blades]

I don't think people accused Currie of being nesh, did they? Didn't he once leave Tommy Smith face down in the mud?

Think this is my main problem with Berge, not saying he hasn't got the skills because he has, but he hasn't got the drive or that will to get stuck in that players like TC had.
Mind you I have to admit I was a Monty fan, like all my favourite players he left nothing out there.....

 

[alcoblade]

I don't think people accused Currie of being nesh, did they? Didn't he once leave Tommy Smith face down in the mud?

If you don’t think Berge is a Rolls Royce, you must obviously think Currie was nesh, have a man crush on Monty, and yearn for park football. Because what other conclusion could to draw?

 

[Bennyand the Blades]

If you don’t think Berge is a Rolls Royce, you must obviously think Currie was nesh, have a man crush on Monty, and yearn for park football. Because what other conclusion could to draw?

I think everyone is allowed an opinion, on here, they may differ from your own but that doesn't make yours the right one, except in your opinion.......

 

[Brownieblade]

I’m sure you can imagine all sorts fella. Given the vacuum in your football knowledge, you have to fill the void with something.

Wait until tomorrow so your brain can conjure up another thought.

Well when you are the only one offering education on here then the standards will obviously drop steeply quite quickly eh Kev

 

[nopigfansintown]

he has a lot of potential, but still has a long way to go. I don't think he's a 'Rolls Royce' either but I do think he has the ability to be a prem standard player and totally agree that he could be a lot more adventurous. I had a quick scan as well and screenshot some examples all more than 5/10 yards or over, forward and all are taking multiple players out the game or leading to opportunities when he could have played safe instead + his shot second half.

I wouldn't give his a performance more than a 6/10 yesterday. He was fine, did the basics well, kept possession ticking over and had a few nice moments but could've done a more. Norwood generally plays that role better IMO. I'm hoping with more game time he works on his aggression and pushing the creative side of his game so we can utilise him further up the pitch.


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Norwood's introduction to the Blades besoke 3-5-2 was not only a personnel change but a tactical tweak by Wilder. We exchange a player that favoured the short passing game (Coutts Evans for one that favoured long switches and diagonals). This allowed us to overload wide areas quicker with anything up to four players in one area/channel (Duffy, wing back, left or right centre back, sometimes a striker and/or left or right midfielder). If you play Berge over Norwood you revert back to pre Norwood stylistics.

 

[Ridgeway Blade]

I don't think we have seen the best of Bege by any means. He is undoubtedly talented but remember he has been out for so long I am hoping he really starts to deliver now ... and keeps fit. We will need to shuffle the pack this next month that is for sure.

 

[metalblade]

Thought Berge did well tonight when he came on.

 

[SwissBlade]

Would’ve been on 20 mins earlier but went for a warm up after half time and was still turning 20 mins later

 

[Bladethebrian]

Made a difference when he came on. Good to see.

 

[DronnieBlade]

Has
To
Start
Satdi.

Has to !

UTB

 

[CaptainMorgans]

He did do alright. But not great.

He made some searching runs to the byline, which were always destined to end in corner kicks.
One very good clipped ball to the front post which someone needed to be anticipating and attacking.

I know it's just his way, but there's still a lack of enthusiasm in his body language. MGW was like a man possessed trying to make things happen, whilst Berge - fresh on - still only received the ball when it came to him.

He did do well, but he can still do so much more with his abilities.

 

[knowsnowt]

Reyt player. Our most cultured.
We're lucky to have him.

 

[alcoblade]

Made a difference when he came on. Good to see.

I thought so too. He’s, without doubt, much more effectual when playing in an advance position.

 

[FallowfieldBlade]

It shouldn’t be a question of should Berge start

Ask yourself is Berge better than Norwood & Hourihane

If you answer no seek help

 

[alcoblade]

It shouldn’t be a question of should Berge start

Ask yourself is Berge better than Norwood & Hourihane

If you answer no seek help

According to our results, Norwood has clearly been a far better player for us so far.

Then again, you’d start McBurnie over Sharp so what should we expect.

 

[Russ]

I’d like to think Hecky will at least use his Rolls Royce more at the weekend.

And give Billy more than 23 minutes.

 

[Middle Aged Blade]

Made a difference when he came on. Won several corners, which we failed to do anything with. Keep the faith.

 

[Black Cloud]

Didn’t understand why we didn’t hook George on the hour , go to four at the back and put Sander on = 3 points...

 

[S64 Blade]

Made a good impact when he came on. Always see his best when he goes on those runs to the byline. Need to try and play him and Norwood together in the side, for me.

 

[1889]

Thought he played with more freedom and self belief last night and had the change happened earlier he was probably our best chance of nicking a goal.

He’d obviously been told to carry the ball and in doing that, he showed how effective he can be at this level. Caused them lots of problems down the right and won several corners. Actually looked a class above last night and if he played like that every week, he’d be first name on the team sheet.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

My word Kozzy, you’ve created a whole new Berge bingo game there;

Long way from home
Too nice
Still developing
Still finding his game
Too much expectation
Lockdown
Different culture

I think the penny is dropping elsewhere, that he’s perhaps just a bang average second division footballer.

Fancy a game of bingo mate? Owd Sander names half of them himself: