Incoming? Sam Morsy

[Stretch]

marsh blade wtf is going on, I bet my kids savings and the wife's wedding ring on Morsey starting tomorra. Get onto your feckin contact and tell I'm he owes me £3-4/-6p.

You now have to prefix your posts with "W@NKER POSTING the following message" until the end of the season or until your failed prediction arrives.

I'm of tut porn shop to try and get the feckin cat back before anyone notices he's gone.

Pussy from a porn shop, I can see that happening.

 

[Darthblade]

If Morsy's really not signing I do hope that Tufty's been using the "smokescreen" to bring in another CM on the quiet in time for tomorrows game or I shall be disturbed .......

UTB & FTP

 

[GallonofMagnet]

Looking like I've got to sit through another 90 minutes of "bash".

 

[Snowman]

Is it to be:- (1) it was nailed on but things change quickly in football.
(2) My info was spot on but the club pulled it at the last minute
(3) He was here and ready to sign but they couldn't agree terms on image rights
(4) My source is 100% accurate but the deal got hijacked at the last minute
(5) I was fed a line by a bullshitter who I fell for hook line and sinker cos I wanted to look good
(6) Despite posting that I had no info that he had turned us down, in fact I had no info that we wanted him or he us.
(7) It has been delayed and his medical will be on Monday, giving me time to leave town.
(8) It will be announced next week
(9) Oh Fuck can I change my user name I am due a rogering by a mad clown
(10) I will have the last laugh on Snowman the cynical.

Let's be avin yer Marsh Blade!

 

[Ricky]

If this is true then that's fucking tragic.


Darren Smith ‏@swaccountants 56m56 minutes ago
@howardlee16 We could swap Brayford for Morsy plus cash tonight if we wanted. Would have merit due to wages but cash adjustment offered...
..does not cover what we owe Cardiff and, in CW's opinion, overvalues Morsy, a player he'd take in a swap but not pay cash for.


Rejecting the chance to get Morsy AND cash for Brayford is madness.

Apparently we owe Cardiff 500k. If Wigan offered 200k plus Morsy for example then why couldn't we just make the rest of that up with the fee we got for Adams?

I don't think we should be obsessing over values too much in this situation. One player is younger, plays in a more prominent position, would make a bigger contribution and would be on lower wages.

 

[Snowman]

If this is true then that's fucking tragic.


Darren Smith ‏@swaccountants 56m56 minutes ago
@howardlee16 We could swap Brayford for Morsy plus cash tonight if we wanted. Would have merit due to wages but cash adjustment offered...
..does not cover what we owe Cardiff and, in CW's opinion, overvalues Morsy, a player he'd take in a swap but not pay cash for.


Rejecting the chance to get Morsy AND cash for Brayford is madness.

Apparently we owe Cardiff 500k. If Wigan offered 200k plus Morsy for example then why couldn't we just make the rest of that up with the fee we got for Adams?

I don't think we should be obsessing over values too much in this situation. One player is younger, plays in a more prominent position, would make a bigger contribution and would be on lower wages.

I may be nudging into the realms of becoming pissed at the moment, but I am with you on this.

 

[Sean Thornton]

If this is true then that's fucking tragic.


Darren Smith ‏@swaccountants 56m56 minutes ago
@howardlee16 We could swap Brayford for Morsy plus cash tonight if we wanted. Would have merit due to wages but cash adjustment offered...
..does not cover what we owe Cardiff and, in CW's opinion, overvalues Morsy, a player he'd take in a swap but not pay cash for.


Rejecting the chance to get Morsy AND cash for Brayford is madness.

Apparently we owe Cardiff 500k. If Wigan offered 200k plus Morsy for example then why couldn't we just make the rest of that up with the fee we got for Adams?

I don't think we should be obsessing over values too much in this situation. One player is younger, plays in a more prominent position, would make a bigger contribution and would be on lower wages.

Financially there could be a lot more to it than £300k. Brayford hasn't asked for a move as far as I know so could be entitled to a pay off. Buts that's as much a guess as I suspect the figures being bandied about are.

 

[Esablade]

Trouble at t'mill..perhaps Wilder 's not so impressed with Brayford after his 'get up and carry on' comments?

They were directed to Brayford weren't they?

 

[SwissBlade]

whats the obsession with getting rid of Brayford? in a game where we moan about players not being loyal we're happy to get rid of a player that genuinely wanted to come to the club. He's had a couple of injuries and was unlucky last season with an awful manager, yet he's now one of the most senior players at the club and versatile in the back four, yet people want to take a loss on him, just because...

 

[Ricky]

If Wilder's not willing to budge on values then our best chance is Wigan becoming desperate and improving their offer. But as time goes on they're more likely to sign another right back. They've been linked with a loan move for a young Liverpool RB today.

Keeping Brayford would be a gamble. I'm very confident that he won't get back to the levels that would make him a real asset. We should take this opportunity to get something decent for him. Because before we know it he'll be in the last year of his contract, probably on the back of another unimpressive season and we'll be stuck with him.

 

[SwissBlade]

If Wilder's not willing to budge on values then our best chance is Wigan becoming desperate and improving their offer. But as time goes on they're more likely to sign another right back. They've been linked with a loan move for a young Liverpool RB today.

Keeping Brayford would be a gamble. I'm very confident that he won't get back to the levels that would make him a real asset. We should take this opportunity to get something decent for him. Because before we know it he'll be in the last year of his contract, probably on the back of another unimpressive season and we'll be stuck with him.

pay over the top for morsy and flog Brayford makes no sense at all.

I forget, but wasnt Brayford mostly unimpressive last season because:
- he came back from one injury, played a few games and then ended the season injured again (different injury)
- he was playing in the shittest team, for one of the shittest managers we've had for years

There are still a number of other players that i'd get rid of before Brayford because they're not as good as him and/ or have an attitude which is proven to be shite, but also because they have been proven to be not good enough.

The squad is small enough and the following players are clearly having a reprieve under the new manager, the last two don't even have squad numbers
Scougall
Basham
McNulty
Freeman
James Wallace
Woolford

 

[Sean Thornton]

If Wilder's not willing to budge on values then our best chance is Wigan becoming desperate and improving their offer. But as time goes on they're more likely to sign another right back. They've been linked with a loan move for a young Liverpool RB today.

Keeping Brayford would be a gamble. I'm very confident that he won't get back to the levels that would make him a real asset. We should take this opportunity to get something decent for him. Because before we know it he'll be in the last year of his contract, probably on the back of another unimpressive season and we'll be stuck with him.

Wigan obviously see things differently.

 

[Broomhall Blade]

If this is true then that's fucking tragic.


Darren Smith ‏@swaccountants 56m56 minutes ago
@howardlee16 We could swap Brayford for Morsy plus cash tonight if we wanted. Would have merit due to wages but cash adjustment offered...
..does not cover what we owe Cardiff and, in CW's opinion, overvalues Morsy, a player he'd take in a swap but not pay cash for.


Rejecting the chance to get Morsy AND cash for Brayford is madness.

Apparently we owe Cardiff 500k. If Wigan offered 200k plus Morsy for example then why couldn't we just make the rest of that up with the fee we got for Adams?

I don't think we should be obsessing over values too much in this situation. One player is younger, plays in a more prominent position, would make a bigger contribution and would be on lower wages.

But we would then have to sign a right back.

 

[Sean Thornton]

But we would then have to sign a right back.

Please no one say "we've got Freeman"

 

[Toronto Blade]

SWaccountants sounds like a pig company to me.

 

[Kenilworth]

Anyone else think that signing Morsy would be perfect for Duffy?


I'll leave you to think about that one for a while. It's just subtle enough to make your nose twitch.

 

[Slug]

If this is true then that's fucking tragic.


Darren Smith ‏@swaccountants 56m56 minutes ago
@howardlee16 We could swap Brayford for Morsy plus cash tonight if we wanted. Would have merit due to wages but cash adjustment offered...
..does not cover what we owe Cardiff and, in CW's opinion, overvalues Morsy, a player he'd take in a swap but not pay cash for.


Rejecting the chance to get Morsy AND cash for Brayford is madness.

Apparently we owe Cardiff 500k. If Wigan offered 200k plus Morsy for example then why couldn't we just make the rest of that up with the fee we got for Adams?

I don't think we should be obsessing over values too much in this situation. One player is younger, plays in a more prominent position, would make a bigger contribution and would be on lower wages.

That bloke on twitter changes his story every day with regards to Morsy and several other Blades related stories. He knows fuck all and is just guessing basically. But don't worry he had me fooled at first too

 

[SwissBlade]

Apparently Morsy got stuck in deep snow coming over the snake pass today

 

[Chali 2na]

I thought it was rumoured (and virtually confirmed at one of McCabe's fan's forum bullshitting sessions) that Sammon was a Clough signing (it certainly appeared to have the fingerprints of Clough and Brannigan all over it)?

He was signed during Adkins' tenure, which I would assume means he had the final say regardless whether Clough arranged the transfer initially.

Either way though, shocking signing

 

[Weasel]

Just my opinion but even thinking of swapping Brayford for Morsy is madness. Give Bray time to get back up to speed and he will be a real asset again. He is in a different league (quite literally at the moment unfortunately) to the Wigan lad. On top of that he is settled in Sheffield and loves the club. Would be a big mistake to get rid now when his stock is low due to injuries last season. Give him 12 months and there could well be clubs falling over themselves to try and take Brayford off our hands. Morsy (good third tier level player that he his) will never be at that level. How about keeping Brayford and daft thought i know...buying a midfield lad as well. Ridiculous thought. Never catch on that.

 

[Toronto Blade]

Just my opinion but even thinking of swapping Brayford for Morsy is madness. Give Bray time to get back up to speed and he will be a real asset again. He is in a different league (quite literally at the moment unfortunately) to the Wigan lad. On top of that he is settled in Sheffield and loves the club. Would be a big mistake to get rid now when his stock is low due to injuries last season. Give him 12 months and there could well be clubs falling over themselves to try and take Brayford off our hands. Morsy (good third tier level player that he his) will never be at that level. How about keeping Brayford and daft thought i know...buying a midfield lad as well. Ridiculous thought. Never catch on that.

Or just trade the board,owners,tea lady for Morsy!

This Morsy character seems to have attained God like status.

 

[Ricky]

whats the obsession with getting rid of Brayford? in a game where we moan about players not being loyal we're happy to get rid of a player that genuinely wanted to come to the club. He's had a couple of injuries and was unlucky last season with an awful manager, yet he's now one of the most senior players at the club and versatile in the back four, yet people want to take a loss on him, just because...

Loyalty and wanting to be here is secondary to what he contributes on the pitch. Judging by everything we can see it doesn't even look like he wants to be here anyway. Sentiment can't dictate, and it seems to with many when it comes to Brayford. Suggestions that he'll get back to his best are based mainly on blind faith.

pay over the top for morsy and flog Brayford makes no sense at all.

I forget, but wasnt Brayford mostly unimpressive last season because:
- he came back from one injury, played a few games and then ended the season injured again (different injury)
- he was playing in the shittest team, for one of the shittest managers we've had for years

There are still a number of other players that i'd get rid of before Brayford because they're not as good as him and/ or have an attitude which is proven to be shite, but also because they have been proven to be not good enough.

The squad is small enough and the following players are clearly having a reprieve under the new manager, the last two don't even have squad numbers
Scougall
Basham
McNulty
Freeman
James Wallace
Woolford

He was as unimpressive before he got the injury, when we first signed him. Shit team or not, he showed no signs of improvement at all, and he had long enough to do so.

If we could get rid of those players that would be great, but we can't! It's very well documented. Only Scougall and McNulty could be moved on 'cleanly'. I'd sell Scougall. In reality we're going to have to make sacrifices to assemble a decent team - and that's something that's higher on my priority list than the unlikely prospect of seeing a beardy right back rediscover his old form.

 

[SwissBlade]

Loyalty and wanting to be here is secondary to what he contributes on the pitch. Judging by everything we can see it doesn't even look like he wants to be here anyway. Sentiment can't dictate, and it seems to with many when it comes to Brayford. Suggestions that he'll get back to his best are based mainly on blind faith.




He was as unimpressive before he got the injury, when we first signed him. Shit team or not, he showed no signs of improvement at all, and he had long enough to do so.

If we could get rid of those players that would be great, but we can't! It's very well documented. Only Scougall and McNulty could be moved on 'cleanly'. I'd sell Scougall. In reality we're going to have to make sacrifices to assemble a decent team - and that's something that's higher on my priority list than the unlikely prospect of seeing a beardy right back rediscover his old form.

I normally read your posts and agree with most of what you say, or at least see the point. I Think we'll just have to disagree on this one.

 

[Yakblade]

Anyone else think that signing Morsy would be perfect for Duffy?


I'll leave you to think about that one for a while. It's just subtle enough to make your nose twitch.

I'm begging you for Morsy. Will he be asking Wigan "Why won't you release me?"

 

[Esablade]

Loyalty and wanting to be here is secondary to what he contributes on the pitch. Judging by everything we can see it doesn't even look like he wants to be here anyway. Sentiment can't dictate, and it seems to with many when it comes to Brayford. Suggestions that he'll get back to his best are based mainly on blind faith.




He was as unimpressive before he got the injury, when we first signed him. Shit team or not, he showed no signs of improvement at all, and he had long enough to do so.

If we could get rid of those players that would be great, but we can't! It's very well documented. Only Scougall and McNulty could be moved on 'cleanly'. I'd sell Scougall. In reality we're going to have to make sacrifices to assemble a decent team - and that's something that's higher on my priority list than the unlikely prospect of seeing a beardy right back rediscover his old form.

I'm with Ricky on this one.
I hope he gets back to his best but think he's shot his bolt what with the injuries et all...hope I'm wrong, starting tomorrow.

UTB!

 

[IOM Blade]

whats the obsession with getting rid of Brayford? in a game where we moan about players not being loyal we're happy to get rid of a player that genuinely wanted to come to the club. He's had a couple of injuries and was unlucky last season with an awful manager, yet he's now one of the most senior players at the club and versatile in the back four, yet people want to take a loss on him, just because...

Exactly. I can't believe so many people are advocating the sale of our best player. The board really don't need any encouragement.

Plus, swapping Morsey for Brayford is bloody stupid. We'd just go from needing a quality centre mid to needing a quality right back.

 

[Esablade]

Exactly. I can't believe so many people are advocating the sale of our best player. The board really don't need any encouragement.

Plus, swapping Morsey for Brayford is bloody stupid. We'd just go from needing a quality centre mid to needing a quality right back.

In which game was he last our best player?
I'm struggling tbh....

Swapping him for Morsy plus 2-300k wouldn't be bad IMO...and that's what it's all abaht...

 

[Ricky]

Exactly. I can't believe so many people are advocating the sale of our best player. The board really don't need any encouragement.

Plus, swapping Morsey for Brayford is bloody stupid. We'd just go from needing a quality centre mid to needing a quality right back.

Best player!!!!!!! Can't believe people are still saying that.

Right backs are easier to get at our level than the sort of central midfielder we need.

We could get Morsy plus cash for Brayford and replace Brayford with money to spare, at least with a loanee. Then we could also afford more of what we need in other areas. Keep Brayford and pay 400k for Morsy then we'd be more limited in what else we could do.

 

[SwissBlade]

Best player!!!!!!! Can't believe people are still saying that.

Right backs are easier to get at our level than the sort of central midfielder we need.

We could get Morsy plus cash for Brayford and replace Brayford with money to spare, at least with a loanee. Then we could also afford more of what we need in other areas. Keep Brayford and pay 400k for Morsy then we'd be more limited in what else we could do.

We've just sold a young fringe striker for up to 2million. I don't think we're that limited in what we can do.

 

[Yakblade]

Is Reece Wabara still unattached? League 1 Team of the Year last season and always been impressed by him on the few occasions I've seen him. If Brayford were to be used as part of a Morsy deal then surely Wabara would be a good replacement. If he was willing to have another season of League footie that is.