Incoming? Sam Morsy

[1danewhitehouse]

Christ, we only got £1.7m for Murphy?!? We are really dire at getting a good price.

Well it was undisclosed but £1.7 for Murphy and £500k for Sharp are the most widely reported figures so I’ve gone with them for the purpose of that comparison.

 

[Slim Man]

Medical Monday.

Nah, it was called Manic Monday pal. Good song wrong section.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

subtract another £140k for paying off Hammond

Nope. I’ve included him as a loan and then free signing which is what he was. The fact the club sacked the manager and the new one didn’t want him resulting in a payoff has absolutely no relevant to the level of backing afforded to Adkins.


bartman We don’t know what the respective players are on but taking into account the fee for Murphy, my guess is that Adkins generated/ saved a lot more than he spent. I suspect Doyle, Collins, Murphy, Higdon, Alcock etc. weren’t on peanuts. And let’s not forget Baptiste was only here briefly and Hammond wasn’t here for the whole season either. As I say, I wouldn’t call that backing him. I would call it the club having to foot a massive bill due to previous commitments whilst selling off what they can to limit the damage.

 

[Blade56]

What is the thread record for an individual player? (Ched Evans aside)

We're back in for Ched?

 

[him behind you]

What you are suggesting then is that our Board should have done the logical and sensible thing that most businesses would do and that is to plan ahead for eventualities, given that an asset may be sold and new assets may be required to be brought in ?

Do you know how likely that is to happen with our Board ????

Can you imagine such discussions ever taking place ???

UTB & FTP

Yeah. What was I thinking - I didn't engage my brain did I .

 

[Aynell Creempie]

seen this on Twitter n it looks like he might be having a medical reyt player anorl

 

[Gin&Juice]

seen this on Twitter n it looks like he might be having a medical reyt player anorl

 

[Linz]

Threads merged.

Please do not start new threads where an existing thread is already in the correct forum. Joke thread or not.

 

[GrayBlade]

seen this on Twitter n it looks like he might be having a medical reyt player anorl

Palace fan taking the pee mate.

 

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

We do need pace and skill but come on, Che didn't really have either in any great abundance..

But just enough for Birmingham City to shell out almost £2m.

Rowett Out!

 

[designedbyross]

That's what I've been told . Should be done and dusted either tomorrow or Friday .

 

[Chali 2na]

From the squad we had from Clough's last game.

Out
S. Davies- Loan ended
J. Holt- Loan ended
B. Davies- released
M. Doyle- released
S. Berry- released
K. Scarisbrick- released
I. Turner- released
J. Murphy- sold- £1.7million.
D. Calvert- Lewin- Loan
J. Banton- Loan
D. Brooks- Loan
C. Hamilton- Loan
M. McNulty- Loan
C. Alcock- Loan then sold for undisclosed fee.
M. Higdon- Loan then contract cancelled
C. Dimiaio- Contract cancelled
T. Kennedy- Loan.
O. Khan- Contract cancelled.
B. Harris- Loan
S. Scougall- Loan
K. Freeman- Loan
J. Campbell Ryce- Loan
J. Wallace- Loan
N. Collins- Contract Cancelled

24 out in some capacity or another- Total transfer fees recouped £1.7 million (plus whatever Donny paid for Alcock).


Ins:

G. Long- Loan ended
M. Woolford- Free
J. Phillips- Free
B. Sharp- £500k
C. Sammon- Loan
D. Edgar- Loan
D. Hammond- Loan with option for contract on a free transfer.
A. Baptiste- Loan

8 in in some capacity or another. Total transfer fees spent- £500k.

If that's what being backed looks like I'd hate to see us tightening our belts.

While I agree with the sentiment that Adkins wasn't adequately backed, your list above is far too simplistic.

Loans generally aren't free, and the wages of a player like Hammond over the course of a season could dwarf a potential L1 transfer fee.

Let's say (and it's all guesswork, for the purpose of discussion) Hammond was on £35k at Leicester and we paid half. Over the course of a mere 6 months, that's nearly £500k (add the loan fee, and the total cost probably exceeded £500k.)

Add Woolford, earning (guessing again) £5k over the course of the season, that's another £0.25m that we spent/wasted.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

While I agree with the sentiment that Adkins wasn't adequately backed, your list above is far too simplistic.

Loans generally aren't free, and the wages of a player like Hammond over the course of a season could dwarf a potential L1 transfer fee.

Let's say (and it's all guesswork, for the purpose of discussion) Hammond was on £35k at Leicester and we paid half. Over the course of a mere 6 months, that's nearly £500k (add the loan fee, and the total cost probably exceeded £500k.)

Add Woolford, earning (guessing again) £5k over the course of the season, that's another £0.25m that we spent/wasted.

I know what you're saying but I think if you add in the difference in transfer fees paid and the number of players moved out (and would have been much more if he'd had the retained list) against those that came in, it's hard to say he was backed. He was very restricted due to the already huge wage bill coupled with glaring gaps in the squad.

 

[Chali 2na]

I know what you're saying but I think if you add in the difference in transfer fees paid and the number of players moved out (and would have been much more if he'd had the retained list) against those that came in, it's hard to say he was backed. He was very restricted due to the already huge wage bill coupled with glaring gaps in the squad.

Yeah, I would agree. Not a case of disagreeing with your original sentiment, but more just the problem with list you used.

The only managers I think we've adequately backed since Warnock would be Robson and Clough. It seems the rest have inherited a mess or had to cut the cloth.

 

[Sean Thornton]

I know what you're saying but I think if you add in the difference in transfer fees paid and the number of players moved out (and would have been much more if he'd had the retained list) against those that came in, it's hard to say he was backed. He was very restricted due to the already huge wage bill coupled with glaring gaps in the squad.

The amounts aren't known. But assuming Adkins spent all the budget on the likes of Hammond, Woolford, Sammon etc and the original budget given to him wasntc reduced by the board then he was backed and blew it. Big time as well. If it wasn't enough to begin with, he shouldn't have taken the job.

 

[Pinchy]

But just enough for Birmingham City to shell out almost £2m.

Rowett Out!

Probably. He wouldn't be the first to waste £2m...

 

[breeny]

Where the fuck is Morsy?

Done his tea and it's getting cold.

 

[Finn Keane o' Balmaqueen]

Probably. He wouldn't be the first to waste £2m...

McCabe will have noted and pencilled him in for next season already.

 

[Maidenhead]

I know what you're saying but I think if you add in the difference in transfer fees paid and the number of players moved out (and would have been much more if he'd had the retained list) against those that came in, it's hard to say he was backed. He was very restricted due to the already huge wage bill coupled with glaring gaps in the squad.

He was backed

He chose to sign Hammond instead of four decent league one players!

 

[Rodley]

I know what you're saying but I think if you add in the difference in transfer fees paid and the number of players moved out (and would have been much more if he'd had the retained list) against those that came in, it's hard to say he was backed. He was very restricted due to the already huge wage bill coupled with glaring gaps in the squad.

Who pays for that then?

 

[Treeton Blade]

Just going out for a neet on the pop,

Will leave with this snippet,

Wilder is not interested in signing Morsy, he said it Tuesday, and I was told this afternoon all the rumours are just that.

Nothing to see here, move on.....

Night all

 

[CaptainMorgans]

Just going out for a neet on the pop,

Will leave with this snippet,

Wilder is not interested in signing Morsy, he said it Tuesday, and I was told this afternoon all the rumours are just that.

Nothing to see here, move on.....

Night all

You love an ITK post, what's the record like?

 

[Pollingtonblade]

Hang on can't be arsed reading all this - we aren't signing him

 

[Rodley]

Just going out for a neet on the pop,

Will leave with this snippet,

Wilder is not interested in signing Morsy, he said it Tuesday, and I was told this afternoon all the rumours are just that.

Nothing to see here, move on.....

Night all

 

[gavtheblade]

The wandering pissed up nun is on the prowl again.

 

[Blade56]

Just going out for a neet on the pop,

Will leave with this snippet,

Wilder is not interested in signing Morsy, he said it Tuesday, and I was told this afternoon all the rumours are just that.

Nothing to see here, move on.....

Night all

marsh blade wtf is going on, I bet my kids savings and the wife's wedding ring on Morsey starting tomorra. Get onto your feckin contact and tell I'm he owes me £3-4/-6p.

You now have to prefix your posts with "W@NKER POSTING the following message" until the end of the season or until your failed prediction arrives.

I'm of tut porn shop to try and get the feckin cat back before anyone notices he's gone.

 

[Preecey]

Just going out for a neet on the pop,

Will leave with this snippet,

Wilder is not interested in signing Morsy, he said it Tuesday, and I was told this afternoon all the rumours are just that.

Nothing to see here, move on.....

Night all

W u e d p?

Enjoy your neet!

 

[Chali 2na]

The amounts aren't known. But assuming Adkins spent all the budget on the likes of Hammond, Woolford, Sammon etc and the original budget given to him wasntc reduced by the board then he was backed and blew it. Big time as well. If it wasn't enough to begin with, he shouldn't have taken the job.

I'd guess it was slightly reduced, and then increased in January in order to sign Hammond.

NA got rid of a lot of players and a few decent earners were released by Clough.

I know we have the benefit of hindsight but we spent upwards of £1m for the services of Woolford, Sammon & Hammond. The mind boggles.

 

[Kenilworth]

75 fucking pages.

Good grief.

He'd better be fucking worth it

 

[bladeinspaceandtime]

I'd guess it was slightly reduced, and then increased in January in order to sign Hammond.

NA got rid of a lot of players and a few decent earners were released by Clough.

I know we have the benefit of hindsight but we spent upwards of £1m for the services of Woolford, Sammon & Hammond. The mind boggles.

I thought it was rumoured (and virtually confirmed at one of McCabe's fan's forum bullshitting sessions) that Sammon was a Clough signing (it certainly appeared to have the fingerprints of Clough and Brannigan all over it)?