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Missing Souttar big time at the back .. I don’t like Anel & Robbo as a pairing .. need a replacement for Souttar & another creative midfielder ⚔️
your spot on mate we aint finishing top 2 with anel and robbo as our centre backs and if were not bringing another centre back in why not go back to a back 3 of gilchrist anel and robbo surely worth considering and im sure rcb is gilchrists best position let jjk and seriki battle for rwb
 

your spot on mate we aint finishing top 2 with anel and robbo as our centre backs and if were not bringing another centre back in why not go back to a back 3 of gilchrist anel and robbo surely worth considering and im sure rcb is gilchrists best position let jjk and seriki battle for rwb
Then how do you suggest we keep all the players we have in midfield and forward positions happy when there's one less attacking position to play for?
 
Then how do you suggest we keep all the players we have in midfield and forward positions happy when there's one less attacking position to play for?
thats wilders problem im just making the point that robinson is a bomb scare in a back 4 and wouldnt be in that back 4 if souttar hadnt got injured could always try the old 352 again if were not bringing a centre back in seriki/kenny and burrows/mcallum as wing backs souza and choudray as the 2 hamer in the duffy role and 2 strikers from bbd cannon campbell and moore rak-saki and brooks doing nowt just now as wingers 2 wingbacks getting down the line and getting early crosses in
 
thats wilders problem im just making the point that robinson is a bomb scare in a back 4 and wouldnt be in that back 4 if souttar hadnt got injured could always try the old 352 again if were not bringing a centre back in seriki/kenny and burrows/mcallum as wing backs souza and choudray as the 2 hamer in the duffy role and 2 strikers from bbd cannon campbell and moore rak-saki and brooks doing nowt just now as wingers 2 wingbacks getting down the line and getting early crosses in
He's a bombscare on a football pitch full stop
 
This thread will end up like the Death Pool thread.

It started as out as somebody to peg it, then it went to somebody who pegs it under 70, then before you know it it will be somebody under 70, who takes vitamins, and does regular marathon races.

What a load of old cobblers.
 
No coincidence we were better in the first half of the season when Robbo was out injured. Beyond me why Wilder thinks he’s worth a new contract.
I hope CW is just blowing smoke up Robbo's hole until we get a proper CB in.

Then tell him we'll decide in the summer when we know which league we're in.

If he actually gives him a new contract ,
CW needs Sectioning and taking away in a little van.
 
I go back and forth on this a bit. It’s been obvious from the start that Robinson is at best a very average, limited defender who brings an element of experience and leadership and at worst he’s a complete liability who lets his emotions get the better of him leadership-wise too. It’s always felt a bit needs must with Robinson. Clearly Wilder had no plan to start him this season. But after Souttar’s injury he had to play. I get that and I can see how it’s a squad game and, right now, Robinson is probably a better option than anything else. But it does feel like it’s time to improve our “needs must” option at centre back. Robinson has proven a liability so many times and I really don’t think we can afford to be rolling him out much longer, especially if we’re promoted. I recognise we don’t have stacks of money available but surely at some point we can find someone better for that cover.
How about we find a tall young CB to develop who can start in the U23s and then get onto the bench ?
 
Goals conceded with Souttar starting = 8 in 21 games.

Goals conceded without Souttar = 13 in 8 games.

It's absolutely essential we bring in a replacement this week to start next to Anel. That position is where we should have been prioritising the spending of £10m.
We are conceding at FOUR times the rate since Robbo replaced Souttar
I know there have been some other factors , but in reality Robbo in a 2 is killing our prospects.

CW says he's looking at stats.
It's beyond stubborn if he can't see that Robbo is the main cause.

Ffs don't give him a contract - put off discussions till the summer.

ffs get a CB , IN FACT GET TWO.

a top pro on a loan.

a young un on a permanent to develop

For a club that produced/had Morgan , Jagielka , JoC & Maguire
how have we allowed such a penury at CB to arise ?
 
We are conceding at FOUR times the rate since Robbo replaced Souttar
I know there have been some other factors , but in reality Robbo in a 2 is killing our prospects.

CW says he's looking at stats.
It's beyond stubborn if he can't see that Robbo is the main cause.

Ffs don't give him a contract - put off discussions till the summer.

ffs get a CB , IN FACT GET TWO.

a top pro on a loan.

a young un on a permanent to develop

For a club that produced/had Morgan , Jagielka , JoC & Maguire
how have we allowed such a penury at CB to arise ?
yeah interesting stats those about robinson as ive said before we either bring a new centre back in to replace robinson or we stick with him and go 343 or 352 just cant see us getting top 2 if its anel and robinson for rest of the season
 
No way give him another contract!
Totally agree.

Plays with a certain amount of grit and determination, but that only goes so far. Putting those hard tackles in gets him plenty of goodwill but the other end of the scale is the lack of pace, and general awareness of the game going on round him.

If he gets a new contract then the lack of ambition to improve the squad and move forward towards a stable lower Prem club will be obvious.

Cheers Robbo you’ve done your bit, but a new contract should not be an option.
 
Totally agree.

Plays with a certain amount of grit and determination, but that only goes so far. Putting those hard tackles in gets him plenty of goodwill but the other end of the scale is the lack of pace, and general awareness of the game going on round him.

If he gets a new contract then the lack of ambition to improve the squad and move forward towards a stable lower Prem club will be obvious.

Cheers Robbo you’ve done your bit, but a new contract should not be an option.
Spot on 👍
 
We are conceding at FOUR times the rate since Robbo replaced Souttar

It's beyond stubborn if he can't see that Robbo is the main cause.

Or maybe the loss of Souttar.

Like when we lost JackOConnell suddenly Egan and Henderson start to get flack.

Cooper has looked less comfortable since Souttars absence, I'ts a TEAM game.

Though obviously it's all Wilders fault.
 

I think people get carried away with Robinson, he's nowhere near as bad as some make out. Looked solid enough next to Souttar. Would I like someone better? Sure but let's not pretend he's not a top end championship defender at the least.
 
Robbo for all his tough tackling and no nonsense just isn’t good enough, he’s a back up.

Start of the season we had a strong spine through the team, you could change bits around that but we had a solidity, we don’t now. Really need a solid, good with the head and ideally feet unit in
 
yeah interesting stats those about robinson as ive said before we either bring a new centre back in to replace robinson or we stick with him and go 343 or 352 just cant see us getting top 2 if its anel and robinson for rest of the season
We haven't even got enough CBs to go 3 at the back.
You might say Alfie/Anel/Robbo
but that leaves only youngster Baptiste to cover for 3 CBs - just not enough.

And Anel doesn't have the character to be a leader in the middle , so it wouldn't work anyway.

There is only one solution.
Get an experienced and leadership quality CB and have Robbo/Baptiste (and possibly Alfie) as cover.

Don't forget CBs can get bans , especially as the pressure mounts during the run-in.
To say nothing of our luck with injuries.
 
I think people get carried away with Robinson, he's nowhere near as bad as some make out. Looked solid enough next to Souttar. Would I like someone better? Sure but let's not pretend he's not a top end championship defender at the least.

I couldn’t agree more .

He may not be the best defender in the Championship but he is a long way off being the worst as some of the criticism he has received on here would seem to imply .

As an example , his performance against Hull has been criticised to the extent of in at least one case of making him responsible for all 3 of their goals which is quite ridiculous .

The reality is that , despite all the approbium which has been heaped on him since then he was by no means our worst defender on the night .

That distinction would go to Alfie Gilchrist who had an absolute stinker and not for the first time in recent weeks but somehow seems immune to criticism in some people’s minds .

When this happens , I’m led to believe that it’s because of him not playing in his natural position which is that of centre back . Other than the fact that he played there a few times for Chelsea U 21’s there is no evidence that this is the case.

For me , whilst him being decent in the tackle I have seen no other attributes he possesses which lead to that conclusion and his lack of physical presence would be extremely difficult to overcome in that role .

Robbo is an easy target for some since he is hardly blessed with silky skills with the ball at his feet , but this also applies to some of the most effective defenders we have had down the years including the likes of Eddie Colquhoun , Paul Stancliffe and Brian Gayle .
 
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We haven't even got enough CBs to go 3 at the back.
You might say Alfie/Anel/Robbo
but that leaves only youngster Baptiste to cover for 3 CBs - just not enough.

And Anel doesn't have the character to be a leader in the middle , so it wouldn't work anyway.

There is only one solution.
Get an experienced and leadership quality CB and have Robbo/Baptiste (and possibly Alfie) as cover.

Don't forget CBs can get bans , especially as the pressure mounts during the run-in.
To say nothing of our luck with injuries.
thats the 3 i was thinking of my point is that imo we could get away with robinson in a back 3 but were not going to get top 2 if we continue to play him in a back 4 as for anel i think centre of a 3 is his best position was brilliant against spurs there in the cup if we bring dunne and woofenden/darling in weve got plenty of cover for a back 2 or a back 3
 
thats the 3 i was thinking of my point is that imo we could get away with robinson in a back 3 but were not going to get top 2 if we continue to play him in a back 4 as for anel i think centre of a 3 is his best position was brilliant against spurs there in the cup if we bring dunne and woofenden/darling in weve got plenty of cover for a back 2 or a back 3
Of course I agree with you re Robbo in a two - that won't get autos.

Do you honestly see us getting 2 new CBs like Dunne and Woolfie/Darling ?

I would love it but would be very surprised.
 
Of course I agree with you re Robbo in a two - that won't get autos.

Do you honestly see us getting 2 new CBs like Dunne and Woolfie/Darling ?

I would love it but would be very surprised.
well weve bid for johnjo kenny a right back and its obvious we need a new centre back woofenden and darling are specialist centre backs dunne can play right back if we miss out on kenny but we definetly need 2 more in this week
 
I think people get carried away with Robinson, he's nowhere near as bad as some make out. Looked solid enough next to Souttar. Would I like someone better? Sure but let's not pretend he's not a top end championship defender at the least.
He isn't a top end Championship defender. Not in this wide world.

He doesn't start for literally any of the current top 6.
 
Easily the better to the two today. We need someone to grab the defence by the scruff of the neck and it isn't Anel or Robinson.
 

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