Recruitment Department Update

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Wilder has mentioned the data side of it all in transfers but there's obviously different scales and quality of if
I used to work in sports analytics and you're right, it's only as good as the people using and interpreting it at the other end. Some bloody good ones and some total donkeys who are getting paid to play real life football manager.

Happy to be wrong but Wilder doesn't strike me as someone who is guided by stats first but emotionally and on gut feel with numbers as a steer. Also depends on whether his stats people stand up to him or just find evidence to support his argument and blow smoke up his arse.
 
They spend shed loads on analytics so I’m told by my sons

I’d genuinely love to know what the money actually goes on…

Do you have to purchase the data or models? It doesn’t take fancy technology as I understand it.

It’s an industry where the supply of people wanting to work in it will far exceed the demand, suppressing salaries with clubs using interns and people doing it for free to get a foot in the door etc. but even if you had a staff of 50 people on say 50k a year (2m or so) that’s still only the equivalent to one highly paid championship player and less than the average PL wage.

Like the academy we invested in under Warnock (which has paid for it self many times over in player sales) it stuns me we don’t see this as a potential area of advantage. Surely the cost to run is less than say we paid for say… Grbic. If I was in charge it would be the first thing I spent on (and look at it as just as valuable as a squad player) even before players and the training ground.

BadgerBlade - you’d presumably know a lot more than I can guess…
 
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I do wonder if a couple of sales might make the picture clearer.

We’ve re-signed Norrington-Davies for another three years. He was very good before injury. Why would we do that if there is no plan to play him?

Say we lost Anel for 15m and Souza for a comparable figure and offloaded Grbic’s wages. We’d then be well financed for the season and in a good place for January.

I know this has been done to death a bit but we’re actually still well covered, just look a little exposed right now due to a few untimely injuries.

…………………..Cooper…………………..
…………………..(Davies)………………….

Shackleton….Souttar….Robinson….RND
(Seriki)…….(Gilchrist)...(Trusty)..(McCallum)

………..Arblaster……..….Hamer…………
…………(Peck)………(Davies/Coulibaly)..

Raj-Sayki…………O’Hare…….…Burrows
(Brooks)…………(Slimane)……(Campbell)

……………………Moore…………………..
………………….(Brewster)………………..

That would give you two tenacious full-backs with two adventurous understudies. It would give you a competitive central defence at this level with some experience in Trusty as well as promise in Gilchrist who seems not to be the attack minded fullback type. You then have Sanauskas as a well through of 5th choice.

It would also allow Burrows to focus on the skills that gave him 12 goals and 18 assists last season but would also make the left more naturally robust defensively. You’d have Campbell in reserve to mix things up and could play Slimane there if you wanted an inverted option. Brooks has already impressed on the right and will be unlucky to lose his spot, though he’s also an option left side.

There is perhaps a better option to be had than the injury prone/ability doubted Davies and Coulibaly so perhaps some trading is needed there. But Arblaster and Hamer with O’Hare in front looks a very tidy midfield and I do feel, as well as he has played, that having a sitter at this level is a little wasteful for us.

Offload Coulibaly for another option (Stuart Armstrong still not taken up yet?) and get in another striker (Cannon?) and I think I would be more comfortable with that set up than the current one playing Gus out of position wide left.
 
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I used to work in sports analytics and you're right, it's only as good as the people using and interpreting it at the other end. Some bloody good ones and some total donkeys who are getting paid to play real life football manager.

Happy to be wrong but Wilder doesn't strike me as someone who is guided by stats first but emotionally and on gut feel with numbers as a steer. Also depends on whether his stats people stand up to him or just find evidence to support his argument and blow smoke up his arse.
We are often encouraged to employ similar methods as those shown by clubs at EPL level, with some notable success.
Clubs like Bournemouth, Brighton and Brentford are often portrayed as good examples of recruitment and scouting.
PH broke the mould with a few European forays into the market, but he enjoyed only limited success with those foreign players! Most have now been moved on.

No one seems to have noticed the dramatic improvement at Notts Forest, who were seen as a club trying, and failing, to spend their way to success. Despite being sanctioned, they are still EPL members, but now enjoying the kind of success one might expect at Newcastle under Eddie Howe?

The main difference seems to be a new manager, capable of managing and improving the team ethos, so sadly lacking under the previous manager.

As a club, we cannot, and should not copy the methods of other relatively successful clubs, but develop our own way of doing things. It might be a single thing, or a combination of methods. The point is, we probably don’t have the money, or the style to copy another club, but there is no harm in collecting a selection of good practices, to secure EPL status.

I suggest that we don’t need to copy them, but select a combination of successful factors shown by other clubs, but still within our financial means!

Yes this might involve questioning the current Wilder policy of selecting a list of mostly English league prospects for permanent or loan signings!
 

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