Ramsdale

[XM657]

Billy Smarts circus still looking for jugglers.

S'all reight the juggling, s'when you drop what your juggling the trouble starts.
So (fucking hell, starting a sentence with 'so') keep on juggling Arron, please don't drop it.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

Got away with the McGuire incident, he should have been punching it clear instead of doing his juggling act.

I'm not letting you get away with that Maguire incident.

 

[Argentinemanager]

For what its worth my opinion is he did more than ok last night but i think he has a problem due to using contact lenses, he appears to be slightly wrong with the ball positioning when its coming down and hes looking up at a certain angle, i would recommend laser eye surgery if possible, pilots have it to achieve 20/20 vision. But well done lad

 

[Big Hitter]

Seems to me we should consider the lad in context against others, De Gea came for our first goal and missed it, and in the Everton game Pickford, ( arguably England's no.1) made a right howler of an attempted save to give away the Leicester equalizer. Okay maybe he ( Rammers ) should have punched the ball ( or Maguire ) in that disallowed goal incident but punching the ball can leave to all sorts of problems in respect of where the ball finishes up.
Some other goalie , ( cant remember who it was now, on MOTD last night) let one in from the left wing from the full back from fully 35 yards out.
Keep it going Rammers, I think we are on the turn.!

 

[Working Class Hero]

Seems to me we should consider the lad in context against others, De Gea came for our first goal and missed it, and in the Everton game Pickford, ( arguably England's no.1) made a right howler of an attempted save to give away the Leicester equalizer. Okay maybe he ( Rammers ) should have punched the ball ( or Maguire ) in that disallowed goal incident but punching the ball can leave to all sorts of problems in respect of where the ball finishes up.
Some other goalie , ( cant remember who it was now, on MOTD last night) let one in from the left wing from the full back from fully 35 yards out.
Keep it going Rammers, I think we are on the turn.!

That's true, and there would be very few people complaining about a 22 year old keeper if these were just the odd instances, as they are in the cases you mention. The fact is though, he looks dodgy every week, and has a daft habit of dropping at least one catch every single game. You can't hide from things like that as a Premier League goalkeeper.

 

[Big Hitter]

Accept what you say, he still has a lot to learn, ( pity we haven't got a Hodgy at the Club to take him under their wing ) but I am prepared to support him for the moment.

 

[Bennyand the Blades]

He's only a babby get off his back, as we've seen before, goalkeepers more than most can thrive or fall on confidence and not only has he had a class act to follow but too many of those in front of him have not had a fantastic season so far either, for various reasons .
Let's not forget Last night was Flecks best game for quite a while and the whole defence in general I thought had one of it's best games so far.....

 

[metalblade]

I think a lot of posters are letting their dislike of Ramsdale cloud their judgement, Maguire knew exactly what he was doing he jumped shoulder first into Ramsdales chest just as he was catching the ball. You haven't been able to get away with that since the 1950's the ref got it spot on. I find it rather sad that many are overlooking the laws of the game to justify a pop at Ramsdale.

 

[Harrisblade]

I think a lot of posters are letting their dislike of Ramsdale cloud their judgement, Maguire knew exactly what he was doing he jumped shoulder first into Ramsdales chest just as he was catching the ball. You haven't been able to get away with that since the 1950's the ref got it spot on. I find it rather sad that many are overlooking the laws of the game to justify a pop at Ramsdale.

As the MOTD panel didn't quite say last night while they were criticising the ref for awarding the free-kick against Maguire so quickly that VAR couldn't be used - the ref was well placed and must have been absolutely certain that he had just seen the goalkeeper fouled.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

He deserves every chance now, to build from this, to focus on his game and to build his confidence.

I note a firm, confident social media post from him just now, and the option to comment is switched off. He's controlling what he can. Good on him. Get your head down lad and graft, prove them wrong.

 

[Varkanoid]

Saturday will be an important guide to us one way or another. Last time it was FA Cup Win, PL Win, defeat. Hopefully it will not be the same repeated.

 

[Bladesman]

Better second half for Rambo.

 

[Bladesthorpe]

I'm not letting you get away with that Maguire incident.

Here's me thinking he was Irish.

 

[alcoblade]

Seems to me we should consider the lad in context against others, De Gea came for our first goal and missed it, and in the Everton game Pickford, ( arguably England's no.1) made a right howler of an attempted save to give away the Leicester equalizer. Okay maybe he ( Rammers ) should have punched the ball ( or Maguire ) in that disallowed goal incident but punching the ball can leave to all sorts of problems in respect of where the ball finishes up.
Some other goalie , ( cant remember who it was now, on MOTD last night) let one in from the left wing from the full back from fully 35 yards out.
Keep it going Rammers, I think we are on the turn.!

I couldn’t disagree more mate. Ramsdale looks like a lower division keeper at the moment. There’s nothing about his game that would compare to other premier league goalkeepers.

If we were to sell him now I’d be stunned if we could get a million for him.

I really hope I’m proved wrong. It’s difficult to tell how much of the current incompetence is linked to ability, and how much to confidence.

 

[ThatJa]

I really don't like that unearned arrogance, it was fine when Henderson did it because his performances earned him some well deserved cockiness. Ramsdale is the worst keeper in the league and seeing him act cocky after catching a simple ball looks a bit stupid. He needs to "do it" first then he can shithouse who he wants

Worse keeper in the league? He has the 5th most saved in Europe.......

 

[Kev Gee]

Great second half and hopefully he can build on this.

Well done Rammers!

 

[Bladeloyal]

I remember the days before forums when young players coming through where willed on to be great players , now it seems the done think is to pile in on a few mistakes .sad times . utb

 

[Bladeinleeds]

I couldn’t disagree more mate. Ramsdale looks like a lower division keeper at the moment. There’s nothing about his game that would compare to other premier league goalkeepers.

If we were to sell him now I’d be stunned if we could get a million for him.

I really hope I’m proved wrong. It’s difficult to tell how much of the current incompetence is linked to ability, and how much to confidence.

not saying he’s been brilliant. He’s clearly not been at the same level he was last year and has shipped in a few saveable goals, and looked shaky at times.

But I think if we were say 15/16th in the league - I don’t think anyone would have the same sort of issues with his performances so far. He’s just a convenient lightning rod for blame for the season as a whole. Plenty of others (sometimes 6/7 a game ) have not playing as well we know they could do, so he’s been far from the only on struggling.

I hope we see some more confident performances if we can play our way into some form and start to get the results and performances.

 

[alcoblade]

not saying he’s been brilliant. He’s clearly not been at the same level he was last year and has shipped in a few saveable goals, and looked shaky at times.

But I think if we were say 15/16th in the league - I don’t think anyone would have the same sort of issues with his performances so far. He’s just a convenient lightning rod for blame for the season as a whole. Plenty of others (sometimes 6/7 a game ) have not playing as well we know they could do, so he’s been far from the only on struggling.

I hope we see some more confident performances if we can play our way into some form and start to get the results and performances.

I agree, mainly. But the thread is about Ramsdale, so we might be forgiven for focussing on him here.

Lots of players have let us down this year. The midfield hasn’t performed. And the marquee siginings (Ramsdale / Brewster) have flopped terribly.

it’s surely a huge confidence issue with him now. He looks (to me) like a semi pro. It was clear from the off that he was no Henderson, but recently he’s really dipped. If you didn’t know otherwise you’d think we’d put an outfield player in the net.

 

[Bennyand the Blades]

I agree, mainly. But the thread is about Ramsdale, so we might be forgiven for focussing on him here.

Lots of players have let us down this year. The midfield hasn’t performed. And the marquee siginings (Ramsdale / Brewster) have flopped terribly.

it’s surely a huge confidence issue with him now. He looks (to me) like a semi pro. It was clear from the off that he was no Henderson, but recently he’s really dipped. If you didn’t know otherwise you’d think we’d put an outfield player in the net.

In your opinion.........

 

[alcoblade]

In your opinion.........

Which goes without saying, but thanks for clarifying for the one in a billion who took at as fact.

 

[Bennyand the Blades]

Which goes without saying, but thanks for clarifying for the one in a billion who took at as fact.

So knowing what you do about (confidence) I just wondered why you've gone out of your way to try and destroy his ?

 

[alcoblade]

So knowing what you do about (confidence) I just wondered why you've gone out of your way to try and destroy his ?

You can’t be serious? It’s a fans message board, for fans to share opinions. Why would Ramsdale be reading this?

Should I make sure I put “in my opinion” each time, just in case he thinks it’s a fact that he’s struggling, because I said so?

I’m not sure what your point is.

 

[BanderSerge]

Wonder if all the Tottenham bedwetters are on french international captain Lloris’s case tonight?

 

[alcoblade]

Wonder if all the Tottenham bedwetters are on french international captain Lloris’s case tonight?

I'm fairly sure their discussion boards will be........discussing their players, without fear that the poor darlings will somehow get wind and collapse in form as a result.

 

[Dkc]

Firstly well done Rammers. We must also remember that it was pissing with rain. He did well to catch shots hit with power straight at him. Any keeper can fumbe in such a situation.

I've been reluctant to criticise him, but I will say that he doesn't seem to have the ability of top keepers (Cech, de Gea, Hendo) to make himself bigger, stretch his body, dive and reach out to tip away shots heading for the corner of the net, make impossible saves. We've been spoilt with Henderson.

Got to defer to CW AK on this. If they think Ramsdale is the best choice out of our four keepers, and continue to play him, we can't really argue. As others have said, he isn't the finished product. He will let in goals that Henderson would have saved, but he may save shots that, say Foderingham or Moore would have let in.

Perhaps he needs to work more on his positioning and decision making, but he will get better. If CW AK think he's the best we have, let's give him support and not criticise too much. He will be aware that he needs to improve some aspects of his game.

 

[B.Lade]

We've been spoilt with Henderson.

Got to defer to CW AK on this. If they think Ramsdale is the best choice out of our four keepers, and continue to play him, we can't really argue. As others have said, he isn't the finished product. He will let in goals that Henderson would have saved, but he may save shots that, say Foderingham or Moore would have let in.

Nail on head here. He's not as good as Hendo, but then we couldn't have afforded Hendo...

Is Ramsdale's confidence down resulting in more errors? Yes.
Did we overpay for him? Probably (but wages will be relatively low)
Is he as bad as we've all been making out and the sole reason for our poor form? Definitely not. There's a reason he's been selected for England U21s, there's a reason he was Bournemouth's POTY. He needs too regain his confidence, iron out his technical issues and he'll be a decent keeper.

 

[Big Hitter]

I couldn’t disagree more mate. Ramsdale looks like a lower division keeper at the moment. There’s nothing about his game that would compare to other premier league goalkeepers.

If we were to sell him now I’d be stunned if we could get a million for him.

I really hope I’m proved wrong. It’s difficult to tell how much of the current incompetence is linked to ability, and how much to confidence.

Ok respect your opinion alcoblade, maybe this "run" we are on will be the turning point for him and the team. Lets hope so.

 

[Big Hitter]

It seems this thread and other comments about Ramsdale crystalize opinions into two very distinct camps. As said before we have always, with one or two notable exceptions- {Nicky Johns ?) had a good goalkeeper at the Lane, going back in my early days to Jack Smith and then Ted Burgin, Hodgy etc.
Whether Ramsdale is going to become a permanent fixture or not, I do feel we have to give him as much support as possible. Somebody on this thread was asking whether he reads this forum's postings- well I have no idea , one way or the other. However a lot of people do read our jottings, some of them from the media who then use these opinions to write up stories saying the supporters are " fed up with...." or " Blades fans want ..... out..".
In these days nothing is beyond the reach of the fake news guys. I do really think we have to get behind the team now. I don't object to, or decry people who want to criticise players who they feel are not putting 100% in, that's different. They are getting well paid and need to show they are earning that money but needless bad- mouthing of players for honest mistakes doesn't help at all. Sorry for the length of this but i did not have time to make it shorter.

 

[PokerBlade]

The laws of the game state a free kick will be awarded for "jumping at an opponent". The interpretation of that for years now has been that that means when a keeper jumps up to catch the ball, and a player (as in the Maguire case) jumps towards him with no realistic chance of getting high enough to head the ball then it's a foul. We can all have a discussion about whether we think keepers get too much protection, whether we should change or reinterpret the rules and so on, but it's a routine free kick.

That said, Ramsdale should be stronger. And him not going in strongly enough and dropping a cross is becoming a weekly occurrence. My only real "defence" of him is that some of the mistakes he's making are clearly not because he's that incompetent as a keeper. He came from a relegation outfit, low on confidence, and walked into another team whose defence blew up in the first five minutes of the season and hasn't recovered. What the lad needs more than anything is to realise he's a fucking bruiser and that every ball he goes for is either his or he's going straight through the back of whatever's there.

Even if he's not very good, even if he's only Championship standard, I refuse to believe he's anywhere near as bad as some of his errors. That's the sign of a lad struggling with the pressure and he's far from the only one on the team acting like that. He needs some wins under his belt as much as the rest of the side. Not only have I seen him play better than he is right now, I refuse to believe two good managers in the Prem have gotten him completely wrong. There's a player in there and we need to bring him out.