Quinny's Transfer

[Fiery Blade]

Just read an article in the 'Yorkshire Post'

WITH the fee Hull City have paid Sheffield United for Stephen Quinn standing at just £20,000 right now, Steve Bruce unsurprisingly regards the midfielder as “a real bargain”.

The 26-year-old moved to the KC Stadium just before the summer transfer window closed in a deal that, the Yorkshire Post can reveal, saw the Tigers pay nothing up front despite a fee of £350,000 being suggested in some quarters.
Under the terms of the switch that took one of the highest earners at Bramall Lane across Yorkshire, Hull must pay the Blades £2,000 per game up to a maximum of £100,000.



If that is the case is this another giveaway by Sheffield United Football Club - No wonder we are financially in the 'sh*t' - Is the board incompetent, stupid or just plain simple!! - perhaps a mix of all three!
To give away a player on deadline day for £100,000 of Quinn's calibre is ...............................beyond words!!

 

[shorehamview]

They wanted Quinn gone to save on high wages. This may have been the best deal offered. I agree it's frustrating that we didn't get a fee up front, but maybe this was the best or indeed only deal available. Taking the slow trickle of cash and coupling it with the saving on his wages may have been better than continuing to pay his admittedly high salary.

 

[Robbie]

The wages were unsustainable and would (most likely) have put us over budget against the constraints in financial fair play.

Teams knew this and will have taken advantage.

 

[Fiery Blade]

Didn't we turn down an offer of £350,000 from Blackpool?

 

[Highbury_Blade]

Don't you just love the search box?

We had Evans, Cresswell, Simonsen, Quinn, Montgomery who all get (not earn!!!) more money per week than most Division Three players get a month yet they are all shite, show little or no passion

We have needed creativity in the middle of the park for many years - not since Brown, McCall and Tong were ion there pomp have we had a midfield worth their pay
Monty and Quinn try as they may are on the better side of shite - no talent, no class AND MOST OF ALL NO CREATIVITY.

We have had Quinn and Montgomery at the 'heart' of our midfield for years yet the call has always been we need a midfield - they are still there taking money out of the club yet not an ounce of creativity between them!

 

[diplomat]

Hopefully there will be a time when we can dry bum a club out of a player for peanuts to take advantage of their precarious financial situation. I have a feeling that there will be plenty of clubs in the next couple of years desperate to jettison players. Hopefully those same players will have to align their wage demands to a more reasonable level too.

The question is, have we got anyone astute enough to take advantage of such situations?

 

[moDtheGod]

Didn't we turn down an offer of £350,000 from Blackpool?

According to the press maybe. But they just make up the numbers, as this story basically proves.

 

[Fiery Blade]

Don't you just love the search box?

I have never rated Quinny very highly agreed, but in the days of tranfers such as Andy Carroll £35 million, Jordan Rhodes £8 million, Matt Lowton £3 million? etc surely £100 k is peanuts even for Quinny!

 

[Paulus]

How much anything is worth comes down to how much someone is prepared to pay. This presumably was the best deal. Tough but reality.

 

[SouthEssexBlade]

I have never rated Quinny very highly agreed, but in the days of tranfers such as Andy Carroll £35 million, Jordan Rhodes £8 million, Matt Lowton £3 million? etc surely £100 k is peanuts even for Quinny!

They were all 'buyer' purchases, players wanted by the buying club. Quinn was a 'seller' purchase, a player needing to be sold. Makes a big difference to the cash paid, or not in this case. No doubt Hull used the money 'saved' on the transfer to fund the salary.

 

[alcoblade]

After winning the Champions League with Chelsea, Drogba was free. So clearly United did exceptional business with Quinn based on Fiery's (shifting by the minute) criteria.

UTB

 

[Revolution]

After winning the Champions League with Chelsea, Drogba was free. So clearly United did exceptional business with Quinn based on Fiery's (shifting by the minute) criteria.

UTB

Hey, it's today's worst analogy!

Quinn was under contract, Drogba was not.

 

[alcoblade]

Hey, it's today's worst analogy!

Quinn was under contract, Drogba was not.

No, you just missed the point. That being that the state of the contract has a huge effect on the transfer value. In Quinn's case, his massive salary meant that nobody would pay a big fee AND match his wages.

This was widely accepted on here. We were never going to get a big fee for him. Only those with a relentless agenda to hate the club they "support" don't grasp his.

UTB

 

[chesterblade]

I have never rated Quinny very highly agreed, but in the days of tranfers such as Andy Carroll £35 million, Jordan Rhodes £8 million, Matt Lowton £3 million? etc surely £100 k is peanuts even for Quinny!

you've been quoted above as describing Quinn as 'taking money out of the club'. you obviously wanted shut, that happened, what are you complaining about?

 

[blade too long]

dont see what makes this article and its quotes any different from othger articles claiming we get 350k , its undisclosed , ie no buggar knows except the club secretaries

I read one report saying wed get another half a million if hull go up
dont believe that either

 

[God]

you've been quoted above as describing Quinn as 'taking money out of the club'. you obviously wanted shut, that happened, what are you complaining about?

I guess I'll just never understand this " I never rated Quinny" bollox. Each to his own I suppose.

 

[alcoblade]

I guess I'll just never understand this " I never rated Quinny" bollox. Each to his own I suppose.

Me too, but I bet you understand it more than the;

"Quinny was wank, vastly overpaid, so I can't believe we didn't get a big fee for him" bollocks that Fiery's trying.

UTB

 

[chesterblade]

Me too, but I bet you understand it more than the;

"Quinny was wank, vastly overpaid, so I can't believe we didn't get a big fee for him" bollocks that Fiery's trying.

UTB

Yes, that's the point I was trying to make.

 

[Fiery Blade]

Obviously then, you guys who think that he was a great midfield maestro are highly satisfied that we only managed to sell him for £2k per game up to a maximum of £100k and that we got good value?
Not sure what he was on, but certainly one of the best paid players in the Third Division last year and could not command a transfer fee more than £100k - that's what I am getting at!
Also in for good measure Cresswell and Montgomery also on huge salaries could not get any takers!
Are we going to be in the same boat in the future as we now giving out 3 year contracts to the likes of Doyle and Collins who have yet to prove they can cut it in anything above the third division?

 

[Fiery Blade]

No, you just missed the point. That being that the state of the contract has a huge effect on the transfer value. In Quinn's case, his massive salary meant that nobody would pay a big fee AND match his wages.

This was widely accepted on here. We were never going to get a big fee for him. Only those with a relentless agenda to hate the club they "support" don't grasp his.

UTB

Where has this come from?
I do not hate the club!
Sometimes I don't understand the clubs' decision - don't necessarily agree with them, don't like all the players or staff they employ, don't even understand some of their supporters comments or accusations ... but
I do love the club and want them to be succesful - I have only ever seen them win one thing in over 50 years of watching and supporting them -
Don't ever, ever accuse me of hating the club!
We have our opinions - I happen to believe that United are better than third division - better than the likes of many teams playing higher level football than we are!
I am not interested in pathetic jibes towards people that care and believe in their club!

 

[Pragmatic Blade]

Surely the point of the posting here was questioning the financial logistics of the sale of Quinn to Hull. Does it matter whether Fiery actually like or dislikes Quinn, he was merely questioning the article from the Yorkshire Post.

I think some people on this thread have missed the point!

 

[blade too long]

Obviously then, you guys who think that he was a great midfield maestro are highly satisfied that we only managed to sell him for £2k per game up to a maximum of £100k and that we got good value?

Ill say it again , why believe this report over one stating wed get 250 350 or whatever
I dont think any club would only pay 2 k a game in a fee, unless it was in the unibond
Hull have money to pay Quinn 5 times this reported amount in wages, I just think its utter crap
we never ever paid 3 million for ched evans but it still reported as that, journalists just make shit up

 

[God]

Surely the point of the posting here was questioning the financial logistics of the sale of Quinn to Hull. Does it matter whether Fiery actually like or dislikes Quinn, he was merely questioning the article from the Yorkshire Post.

I think some people on this thread have missed the point!

Oh we got the point OK. Maybe Fiery should try sticking to it. That way we dont get sidetracked with opinions on ex players which ISN'T the point .

 

[Highbury_Blade]

Surely the point of the posting here was questioning the financial logistics of the sale of Quinn to Hull. Does it matter whether Fiery actually like or dislikes Quinn, he was merely questioning the article from the Yorkshire Post.

I think some people on this thread have missed the point!

The point is, that on previous postings Fiery would have been happy to pay the cab fare to hull for quinny to leave.

The point is, that we are financially fucked as a club, and this means that we will get screwed by other clubs in transfer dealings. I'm not over the moon about it, but if it meant we got quinny's wages off the books, then c'est la vie.

I would have thought you'd be on the pragmatic side about this one...

 

[Ollessendro]

If Quinn was on 15k a week, then that is 750k a year for his salary. That represents a pretty big chunk of the wage bill for one player. As we have an unofficial transfer embargo, had to send a loan player back and cannot afford to bring in a replacement keeper that suggests our wage bill is pretty close to the limit under football fair play rules. SUFC will know what turnover is and therefore know the 65% figure is thqt the wage bill cannot exceed. Current circumstances suggest we are very close to that. All this suggests that Quinn's salary would have taken us over the limit and therefore we pretty much had to sell. When you consider that we could not afford to keep Quinn at the club, then it is not surprising the club let him go for next to nowt. When the fee stated undisclosed I suspected that it was not much. It was not disclosed for a reason. Whilst I am disappointed to lose a player of Quinn's quality (that is better than most in the division) I understand why the club might have accepted an offer such as this one.

 

[grafikhaus]

I have never rated Quinny very highly agreed, but in the days of tranfers such as Andy Carroll £35 million, Jordan Rhodes £8 million, Matt Lowton £3 million? etc surely £100 k is peanuts even for Quinny!

Do you seriously think we got/will get £3m for Lowton? Like Quinn and many others, we'll never get to know.

Like most clubs, we sell owt that's not nailed down - and that goes for PL clubs.

We look back on last season and realise we've lost players like Ched, Quinn, Williamson etc. If we fail to get out of this division this season, in a year we'll be saying 'Remember Kitson, Maguire, MacDonald...'

 

[boo radley]

When we took Bromby and Alan Quinn from wendy, they were on 8k it dropped down to 4k for them to come to us. That is what a certain mr Quinn told me after a couple of nights out with him.

 

[Highbury_Blade]

If Quinn was on 15k a week, then that is 750k a year for his salary. That represents a pretty big chunk of the wage bill for one player. As we have an unofficial transfer embargo, had to send a loan player back and cannot afford to bring in a replacement keeper that suggests our wage bill is pretty close to the limit under football fair play rules. SUFC will know what turnover is and therefore know the 65% figure is thqt the wage bill cannot exceed. Current circumstances suggest we are very close to that. All this suggests that Quinn's salary would have taken us over the limit and therefore we pretty much had to sell. When you consider that we could not afford to keep Quinn at the club, then it is not surprising the club let him go for next to nowt. When the fee stated undisclosed I suspected that it was not much. It was not disclosed for a reason. Whilst I am disappointed to lose a player of Quinn's quality (that is better than most in the division) I understand why the club might have accepted an offer such as this one.

750k + National insurance so probably closer to 850k a year.

 

[DeepcarBlade]

There was a time when we did this....

Enter Andy Gray and Simon Francis!

 

[DeepcarBlade]

There was a time when we did this....

Enter Andy Gray and Simon Francis!