Press conference today?

[PeteBlade]

Bloody hell now we should keep hold of half the truly awful players we have on our books because of those bloody cup runs.

I've heard it all.

Get rid! No excuses!

 

[The Crab]

He's not as tanned as Adkins. I like a manager to be orange.

Should have gone for David Dickinson then, after all there a few overpriced antiques in the squad.

 

[YES Blade]

It does worry me slightly that McCabe was banging on about the academy a lot in the press conference. We obviously need to bring through the youngsters but I hope it isn't to fill in the gaps following a poor summer of recruitment.

 

[The Crab]

It does worry me slightly that McCabe was banging on about the academy a lot in the press conference. We obviously need to bring through the youngsters but I hope it isn't to fill in the gaps following a poor summer of recruitment.

It was the Police Academy films he was alluding to, he likes the one with the big norks and the guy who does the funny voices apparently. Oh and he thinks Steve Guttenberg is a misunderstood genius.

 

[bornablade]

Has anyone seen or heard from WHF in the last few days? Conspicuous by his absence.

He's just gone in for his one to one with McCabe. It dunt look good.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Hopefully his next move will be to bring Scougall, McNulty and Freeman back into the fold. These are good young players with the potential to improve, unlike the likes of Hammond and McEverley.

Hopefully not! They've had chances to impress and not took them. Diego will be next on the "lets give him another go" express.

 

[itsinyerblood]

It does worry me slightly that McCabe was banging on about the academy a lot in the press conference. We obviously need to bring through the youngsters but I hope it isn't to fill in the gaps following a poor summer of recruitment.

De-coded, McCabe is telling us that money's tight and that we should expect the young 'uns to be thrown in at the deep end because it'll save putting his hand into his pocket.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Hope it's only the club captain's job for Sharp. For team captain we want an uncompromising centre back who's going to organise, motivate and dish out the necessary bollockings. Centre forwards can be too isolated at times and don't rarely suit the armband.

Alan Shearer was considered a very good captain.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Well that tells me we are keeping our contracted shite.

Hey….Who needs to sign new players when you can just change the manager every year eh?

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Tuftys mistakes so far:

Sharp captain

Letting Knill wear a blue suit ( even though it's the only one he's got)

McCabes patsy as promotion through the play offs will be acceptable.

His comments on the retained list prove he's going to keep some of the shite because he used the word surprise

Willing to hold a crap scarf

Any more?

He’s got a bit of a double chin. I don’t like that in a manager.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Exactly this. We look on enviously as clubs like Burton and Walsall finish above us, and they had a fraction of our budget.

High wage availability brought us some right old shite in past.

They also didn’t sack every manager after two minutes and each manager was a good fit to replace the previous one. Wallsall even managed to hang onto all their best players for about two years now.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

I now Im going to get hammered for this but actually some of the player we have got and just out of contract are good enough to get us out of this division. What we really lacked last year was management ,they had no pattern or formation to follow ,no motivation ,everything was off the cuff ,no direction no team spirit ,all in all , shit management. With a few good additions a good manager could galvanise (Wilder word) this squad and endeavour (Adkins) to take us up. Personally I think Wilder is the man to do this.

It’s not out of the question that McNulty, Freeman, Harris etc. might pull their fingers out their arses and start performing but at the same time, I wouldn’t be sorry to see them go.


If they want to get their heads down and play for the manager they have enough ability to be reasonable members of the squad. Up to them as the manager change will undoubtedly at least provide another opportunity for McNulty and Freeman as they remain under contract.

Who knows, we may finally see the emergence of young Diego?

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Knill's record as a manager is pretty poor, isn't it? Mind you, many good assistants make bad managers.

Why is it that good coaches/ assistants often make poor/average managers? Heath, Weir, Blackwell to some extent. I can only assume it’s because they have a good knowledge of the game, tactical awareness etc. but have all the charisma of a tea bag when it comes to trying to inspire others.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Ever so sorry but that information hasn't been made public. You can generally tell how much a manager has had to spend. Clough a lot, most of which he pissed straight down the drain. Adkins not as much, but still a fair whack, enough to see progress on 5th and enough to see that an 11th placed finish was pretty diabolical.

Clough, a lot, most of it in the last 5 months before he was sacked.


Adkins a small portion of what was generated in transfer fees and freed up from the wage bill after Clough’s big expenditure.


Wilder- a small portion of what is freed from the wage bill after releasing the out of contract players and maybe a third of any transfer fees generated like Adkins?

 

[1danewhitehouse]

£1.5M is the figure of Adkins' total outlay on player fee and wages from one "ITK"' on this board. And this wasn't factoring in Conor Sammons wages either, who was supposedly the highest earner at the club. Excluding Sammon, this comes out at just over 4k per week for Hammond, Edgar, Sharp and Woolford. To me, even that seems on the low side with what Hammond and Sharp were/are supposedly on. Edgar won't have been on much less.

If he makes good use of the free transfer market, he might not need much more than that. However, if he spends a few fees on a few promising youngsters from leagues one/two for example, he's probably going to need a bit more. So if he's going to be on less of a budget than Adkins, it's still possible but as I say, much harder with the amount of players he's going to need to bring in. McCabe is probably still deluded enough to be peddling this 50% academy player line. Hopefully Wilder will let him know how much bollocks he's spouting on that one.

It also depends on whether he has to generate it himself with players sales and moving players off the wage bill like Adkins did.

 

[1danewhitehouse]

Not during the Clough and Adkins tenures I don't believe he was.

I think with Clough part of the issue was that he didn't get his more expensive signings in until the last 4-5 months of the season. If he'd got them in the summer he probably wouldn't have signed Alcock, JCR, maybe Higdon. He also obviously took risks that didn't work out/ made bad signings (Butler, Higdon, Wallace etc.)

But after backing a manager like we did in that Jan window, it was mad to sack him knowing we weren't going to back the next guy and sack him if he didn't get us up with largely the same squad. They were Clough's players so we might as well have let him have last season.

 

[Barney]

It also depends on whether he has to generate it himself with players sales and moving players off the wage bill like Adkins did.

Even after selling Murphy, the outlay Adkins sanctioned should have been enough to see progress on 5th. This has been repeatedly explained to you. Even using your bizarre argument, Adkins should have finished 5th then, should he not?

 

[MobileBlade]

They also didn’t sack every manager after two minutes and each manager was a good fit to replace the previous one. Wallsall even managed to hang onto all their best players for about two years now.

Nope. Walsall gave their previous manager 2.5 months and a full 16 games.

 

[INTERUNITED]

He’s got a bit of a double chin. I don’t like that in a manager.

Better than a double gin like Robson.

 

[PeteBlade]

Even after selling Murphy, the outlay Adkins sanctioned should have been enough to see progress on 5th. This has been repeatedly explained to you. Even using your bizarre argument, Adkins should have finished 5th then, should he not?

"Explained to you"
How utterly patronising.

It's an angle and opinion constantly pushed by you and your fickle side kick BTL, the loudest mouths not to attend football matches.

You've not even any idea how much he's had to spend!

You really have no place "explaining" anything to anyone.

 

[sitwell]

Been talking to one of the sponsors today ,he told me the relationship between Adkins and the players was horrendous. He was a very arrogant man who thought he was above everyone and talked down to everyone including sponsors ,he says he was a very difficult man ,but the manager/coach relationship with the players had broken even with Billy Sharp which I am glad about because I thought Sharp would be some sort of teachers pet with him ,but he reckons Billys relationship with the other players is very good.

 

[Large Mendonca]

Been talking to one of the sponsors today ,he told me the relationship between Adkins and the players was horrendous. He was a very arrogant man who thought he was above everyone and talked down to everyone including sponsors ,he says he was a very difficult man ,but the manager/coach relationship with the players had broken even with Billy Sharp which I am glad about because I thought Sharp would be some sort of teachers pet with him ,but he reckons Billys relationship with the other players is very good.

Happier with the sacking now that info has come to light, not that I didn't think it was justified anyway.......

Edit: taking the info at face value of course.

 

[Lord Bos of Eckington.]

Been talking to one of the sponsors today ,he told me the relationship between Adkins and the players was horrendous. He was a very arrogant man who thought he was above everyone and talked down to everyone including sponsors ,he says he was a very difficult man ,but the manager/coach relationship with the players had broken even with Billy Sharp which I am glad about because I thought Sharp would be some sort of teachers pet with him ,but he reckons Billys relationship with the other players is very good.

Adkins was a mardy , know all , arrogant twat . Very selfish guy . McCabe talks about us being unlucky and IMO he is right . Adkins has been lucky , and has been found out.

No it's not sour grapes or after the event .

Also put the he's a blade shit to one side . Wilder will gel fans and players . He is a league 1 manager , we are a league 1 club . We can both do it in the championship.

Agree 100% with you sitters.

 

[Barney]

"Explained to you"
How utterly patronising.

It's an angle and opinion constantly pushed by you and your fickle side kick BTL, the loudest mouths not to attend football matches.

You've not even any idea how much he's had to spend!

You really have no place "explaining" anything to anyone.

Anyone with two eyes and a brain can see how "Adkins raised his own funds" is not a sufficient excuse for an 11th placed finish in division three. Even using the argument, he should have finished 5th - which is still a 6 place underachievement. This has been tediously spelt out to him on many occasions.

 

[west_yorks_blade]

Been talking to one of the sponsors today ,he told me the relationship between Adkins and the players was horrendous. He was a very arrogant man who thought he was above everyone and talked down to everyone including sponsors ,he says he was a very difficult man ,but the manager/coach relationship with the players had broken even with Billy Sharp which I am glad about because I thought Sharp would be some sort of teachers pet with him ,but he reckons Billys relationship with the other players is very good.

I'm looking forward to the posts slagging you off for sharing information. How very dare you.

 

[BushBlade]

Why is it that good coaches/ assistants often make poor/average managers? Heath, Weir, Blackwell to some extent. I can only assume it’s because they have a good knowledge of the game, tactical awareness etc. but have all the charisma of a tea bag when it comes to trying to inspire others.

Basically, yes. It's a different job. It needs strategic thinking, the ability to judge and recruit players and to man manage them and the ability to think quickly to make in game decisions under pressure.

Many coaches get promoted to manager and find they just don't have those skills.

 

[BushBlade]

Been talking to one of the sponsors today ,he told me the relationship between Adkins and the players was horrendous. He was a very arrogant man who thought he was above everyone and talked down to everyone including sponsors ,he says he was a very difficult man ,but the manager/coach relationship with the players had broken even with Billy Sharp which I am glad about because I thought Sharp would be some sort of teachers pet with him ,but he reckons Billys relationship with the other players is very good.

Someone else on here earlier posting similar comments. It's starting to sound like he wasn't the right man. Disappointing.

 

[PeteBlade]

Anyone with two eyes and a brain can see how "Adkins raised his own funds" is not a sufficient excuse for an 11th placed finish in division three. Even using the argument, he should have finished 5th - which is still a 6 place underachievement. This has been tediously spelt out to him on many occasions.

No one is excusing where we finished, but are offering potential logical explanations.

You're "he had more than enough money to improve" from the comfort of your living room, is just bullshit.

 

[Barney]

No one is excusing where we finished, but are offering potential logical explanations.

You're "he had more than enough money to improve" from the comfort of your living room, is just bullshit.

There's no potential logical explanations to be offered.

It's just piss poor management on the whole.

 

[PeteBlade]

There's no potential logical explanations to be offered.

It's just piss poor management on the whole.

Of course there isn't.
So says the man from the chair.