Preparing for League One?

[lenners]

If we're signing players like Doyle, you have to wonder if MA already has half an eye on League One.
Beginning to look iffy for Mickey.

 

[sheffielder]

who would you sign instead?

 

[Baildon Blade]

I've always thought Kevin Doyle was a decent striker and should do a job for us.

 

[lenners]

who would you sign instead?

Someone with a bit of quality, a bit of ability to create chances and score the odd goal.
We seem to have quite a few tryers in midfield already.
What's worrying is he appears to be a permanent signing.

 

[SteelCity Blade]

You're stirring again len

Doyle is an experienced campaigner in the Championship so I dont necessarily see it that way. It looks to me as if he's trying to add a bit of bite and competitive edge to the midfield as sides are playing through us at the moment. I wouldnt have necessarily gone for Doyle but I can see some of the sense in it. Micky knows what he's doing and I know he'll have a good reason for bringing this player in.

People are also under the assumption that Doyle is identical to Monty in playing style which is not true. Doyle is a lot more mobile and a bit more comfortable in possession when I've seen him. They have a couple of similar traits but that's about it. I think Micky wants stronger runners with more energy in the midfield and Michael Doyle fits the bill on that front.

After him I still think we're crying out for an experienced centre back and a decent left sided player. If we can get those two things we'll stay up. If we dont it will be very close at best.

 

[Micalijo]

Very true Lenners.

Doyle proved his capabilities last term, in league one.

He has to be better than Monty though so maybe Micky does have things under control?

 

[sheffielder]

As Steel City says we need a left handed sided player and a centre back after Doyle. Mnty and Doyle will give us a solid base so we need the skill on the wings. Seems strange that most of you have written off Doyle yet I bet you can hardly remember seeing him play. I am more confident that Micky knows whats needed to get us out of the shit with this signing than not

 

[SwissBlade]

Ever thought Doyle could be the back up battler or the competition for Monty?

We're in a dog fight and whilst we need creativity badly, another battler won't go a miss.

Incidentally, we need experience at this level, Doyle is 29 and has played how many years for Cov? How many of those years at this level?

I'd say Micky's digging in for a battle

 

[chipsncake]

Very true Lenners.

Doyle proved his capabilities last term, in league one.

He has to be better than Monty though so maybe Micky does have things under control?

Sadly, Doyle isn't any better than Monty which tells it all. Goodness knows what the manager has in mind if he is planning to play the two together. This one signing alone makes me truly despair and only confirms that yet again we have a manager who is clueless in the transfer market. I have no doubt we will put out a side each week that will get 10 out of 10 for effort, and who knows this may be enough to get us promoted from Div. 1 which is surely the place we are now heading.

 

[bartman]

Sadly, Doyle isn't any better than Monty which tells it all. Goodness knows what the manager has in mind if he is planning to play the two together. This one signing alone makes me truly despair and only confirms that yet again we have a manager who is clueless in the transfer market. I have no doubt we will put out a side each week that will get 10 out of 10 for effort, and who knows this may be enough to get us promoted from Div. 1 which is surely the place we are now heading.

How often have you seen Doyle play ? Once or twice or never ?

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Very true Lenners.

Doyle proved his capabilities last term, in league one.

He has to be better than Monty though so maybe Micky does have things under control?

He will certainly be better than Quinn I would have thought so surely it strenghtens the midfield

 

[Micalijo]

Sadly, Doyle isn't any better than Monty which tells it all. Goodness knows what the manager has in mind if he is planning to play the two together. This one signing alone makes me truly despair and only confirms that yet again we have a manager who is clueless in the transfer market. I have no doubt we will put out a side each week that will get 10 out of 10 for effort, and who knows this may be enough to get us promoted from Div. 1 which is surely the place we are now heading.

Nah, Micky knows what he is doing. Footballing luminaries such as Jansky, Steel and the rest on here tell me so. He aint long ball you know?

I just cannot accept that Doyle virtually never scores, is incapable of striking a football properly, incapable of controling a ball when under pressure, virtually never creates, offers no real protection to his defence, almost continually loses possession when trying anything other than a 5 yard pass to a man in space, and concedes a ridiculous number of free-kicks and penalties when his headless chicken routine means he moronically runs into players. It just cannot be true.

 

[Grecian2000]

I must have seen Doyle on 7 or 8 occasions against us.

He has stood out twice in those games. Once having a half decent game when we drew 1-1 at the Lane when Sun got sent off. They were largely on top and bossing the midfield, but after Sun went we moved Monty to RB attacked down the right constantly through Cotterill, got it back to 1-1 and then declared. He played well without being dominant.
The other was in, for my money, the best performance by the team under Robson in a 1-0 win at their place when he was truly awful and we played a 5 man midfield of Gillespie, Tonge, Monty, Carney and Armstrong with 4 of them breaking constantly to support Beattie up front. The game completely passed him by except for a couple of fouls.
The other games, as sheffielder suggests, passed by without me paying any attention to him. That's what worries me!

 

[MobileBlade]

If we're signing players like Doyle, you have to wonder if MA already has half an eye on League One.
Beginning to look iffy for Mickey.

Len, you don't half talk some bollocks sometimes, mate.

 

[Bladesman]

Nah, Micky knows what he is doing. Footballing luminaries such as Jansky, Steel and the rest on here tell me so. He aint long ball you know?

I just cannot accept that Doyle virtually never scores, is incapable of striking a football properly, incapable of controling a ball when under pressure, virtually never creates, offers no real protection to his defence, almost continually loses possession when trying anything other than a 5 yard pass to a man in space, and concedes a ridiculous number of free-kicks and penalties when his headless chicken routine means he moronically runs into players. It just cannot be true.

It is all possible though we have seen a number of players that can do that at the Lane.

 

[lenners]

Len, you don't have talk some bollocks sometimes, mate.

Where did Doyle play the whole of last season?

 

[SteelCity Blade]

Where did Doyle play the whole of last season?

Where did he play in the six years prior to that?

 

[lenners]

Where did he play in the six years prior to that?

For a below average Championship team that he's no longer good enough for?
Sorry but a bit of genuine quality if what we need.
More lower level Championship players/League One players will only take us in that direction.

 

[grafikhaus]

Well I think this is exactly the kind of player we need. From The Stir:

"The midfielder, who has played nearly 300 games for Aidy Boothroyd's side, spent yesterday afternoon undergoing a medical at Bramall Lane.
Although Coventry have refused to publicly comment on Doyle's situation, privately they expect him to be unveiled as a United player within 24 hours.

Micky Adams, the South Yorkshire club's manager, is a huge admirer of the former Celtic trainee's talents, having worked with him during a two-year spell in the Midlands earlier in his career.
Doyle, who captained Coventry when United visited the Ricoh Arena earlier this month, returned the compliment by describing Adams as "brilliant" on the eve of that match.
"Micky was a great manager to play for," he said. "I really enjoyed working under him.

"He's got a lot of character."
Having captured Marcus Bent, Joe Mattock and Shane Lowry on temporary deals soon after his appointment, Adams admitted following Saturday's defeat by Norwich City that he wants to inject more experience into United's youthful squad.

But, despite revealing he hopes to make at least one permanent signing before the transfer window closes, he also reserved the right to re-enter the loan market.

"We're always looking but we're not going to panic," said Adams.
"We can still do some business after it (the deadline) passes anyway.
"The most important thing is that we bring the right people in.
"We are always looking to improve. That never stops.
"We are always monitoring who might be out there and what might or might not be possible."

Although the length of Doyle's contract remains unclear, The Star can confirm that Coventry have not demanded a fee.
"I can't say anything but good things about Michael," Boothroyd revealed yesterday*. "But I'm sure he could get a lot more money elsewhere so it might just be right for him if that's the case."

* What does his manager know? I'm listening to len

 

[SteelCity Blade]

For a below average Championship team that he's no longer good enough for?
Sorry but a bit of genuine quality if what we need.
More lower level Championship players/League One players will only take us in that direction.

I think what we actually need is to let Micky decide who is good enough to keep us up. Below average or not len, he's played in a side that has never been relegated in his time there. The exact thing we need to achieve.

 

[chipsncake]

How often have you seen Doyle play ? Once or twice or never ?

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Seen him enough to know he's about on par with Monty which is the last thing we want at the moment. Wasting the small amount of money available to them has been the downfall of many previous managers and Adams already seems to be going the same way.

 

[ListerBlade]

I've always thought Kevin Doyle was a decent striker and should do a job for us.

when I first saw the Blades-Doyle headline a few days ago I thought we were getting Kevin too!!

 

[Grecian2000]

Kevin Doyle and Darren Bent would have been a decent forward line for the rest of the season.

 

[ListerBlade]

How our hopes have been dashed this month!!

The ones we've ended up with aren't bad signings IMO though. Time will tell...

 

[BerksBlade]

One factor I see in this is leadership. With Morgs out we're crying out for a leader on the pitch - one of the things I can't see Monty (amongst others) giving us at the moment. I've heard Doyle described as "gobby" elsewhere - if he can motivate other players and get them playing (similar to McCall) then he doesn't have to be Messi.
It's OK moaning that he plays for an average Championship team, but at the moment I'd settle for us being "average". I'd rather be where Coventry are in the table than where we are!

 

[ListerBlade]

We do need a natural leader with a big mouth on the park, I thought that a new permanent CB might be what we'd have gone for, a direct replacement for Morgs but if Doyle can do it-let the lad open his mouth

 

[lenners]

One factor I see in this is leadership. With Morgs out we're crying out for a leader on the pitch - one of the things I can't see Monty (amongst others) giving us at the moment. I've heard Doyle described as "gobby" elsewhere - if he can motivate other players and get them playing (similar to McCall) then he doesn't have to be Messi.
It's OK moaning that he plays for an average Championship team, but at the moment I'd settle for us being "average". I'd rather be where Coventry are in the table than where we are!

Coventry don't want him.

 

[raul]

Leonard,

Be it the Championship or League 1, wouldn't it just be nice to see us actually preparing?

 

[boo radley]

You were asked.

who would you sign instead?

You answered.

Someone with a bit of quality, a bit of ability to create chances and score the odd goal.
We seem to have quite a few tryers in midfield already.
What's worrying is he appears to be a permanent signing.

Now don,t avoid it . NAME THE PLAYERS YOU WOULD SIGN AND AT WHAT COST YOU BELIEVE WE'D GET THEM FOR.

 

[lenners]

You were asked.



You answered.



Now don,t avoid it . NAME THE PLAYERS YOU WOULD SIGN AND AT WHAT COST YOU BELIEVE WE'D GET THEM FOR.

Indeed, I answered.
And we will now have less money available for the quality we need by signing another midfielder whose career record does not suggest he is any better than Monty, Quinn, Williamson etc - one of whom there was already no place for on Saturday.
Is your argument we don't need more quality so we should sign another scuffler instead?

 

[boo radley]

Indeed, I answered.
And we will now have less money available for the quality we need by signing another midfielder whose career record does not suggest he is any better than Monty, Quinn, Williamson etc - one of whom there was already no place for on Saturday.
Is your argument we don't need more quality so we should sign another scuffler instead?

Indeed you did not. So again
Sheffielder asked ''who would you sign instead?''
So to clarify Duh he means if we'd not signed Doyle.

NAME THE PLAYERS YOU WOULD SIGN AND AT WHAT COST YOU BELIEVE WE'D GET THEM FOR.

My argument is you ALWAYS give what you see as a problem but refuse to suggest a solution by naming a player... A sweeping statement of ''someone with more quality''
is a pathetic answer.