Premier League brings VAR

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More than 20 grand I suspect, and Grimsby would only have had a couple of weeks to get it up and running.
They might have then said that the camera's wouldn't work properly without the upgraded LED floodlights.
No it's £20k. It's a set fee.
 

Not when the ball has just been played through 60’s, 70’s,80’s wingers would have been obsolete and through that time 442 would have been useless.
 
More than 20 grand I suspect, and Grimsby would only have had a couple of weeks to get it up and running.
They might have then said that the camera's wouldn't work properly without the upgraded LED floodlights.

Snap.

I think it cost us around 5 million for all the PL upgrades though I never saw a breakdown.
No I recently did the stadium tour and we were told Sky requirements when we got promoted cost £20 million. None of these benefited a single spectator. All about media facilities and other stuff.
 
Not that it would have made any difference to the end result, but Leeds got properly fucked by VAR on the first goal last night. That decision and justification was a joke.
 
or have it has you can't be in the box until the ball is played into the box or similar.
I seem to remember, years ago, that there was thought (I've no idea where it came from) that the 18yard line should be extended to the touchlines and the offside rule would only apply inside the area between the extended 18 yard line and the goal line.
 
Not that it would have made any difference to the end result, but Leeds got properly fucked by VAR on the first goal last night. That decision and justification was a joke.
It really was a joke - TAA clearly moved his arm towards the ball and benefited from it massively, and a few passes later they'd scored. Scandalous decision, and skirted over by the commentators. You say it didn't make a difference to the score, but who knows? Maybe if they kept Liverpool out for longer the result would have been very different.
It really didn't help that they had Carragher in the studio who tried to make every excuse under the sun for TAA - "his arm was going that way anyway", "he didn't mean it" - absolute biased bollocks. If it had been a Leeds player handling the ball in the lead up to a Leeds goal he'd have been spitting feathers.
That game last night reminded me that next year (all being well!) we'll be subjected to that shit week in week out!
 
What minute will we have another VAR decision against us tomorrow?
 
What minute will we have another VAR decision against us tomorrow?
Bound to happen at sometime , the game is just corrupt as fuck now , VAR is just there to take the important decisions out of the of the refs hands so there is no chance of a mistake and the wrong team winning , they can make VAR support any interpretation they want . The game , specially the premier league , is governed by cheats , run by cheats , and played by cheats. A. Cynical-Twat
 
Watching the Liverpool v Spurs highlights. Disgraceful challenge by Skipp on Diaz I think it was and not even a free kick, or yellow from the ref or a VAR review for a straight red. What’s the point of having the VAR if it’s going to be comply ignored ??
 
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What’s the point of having the VAR if it’s going to be comply ignored ??
To help create 'engagement' and 'buzz' from armchair fans. It lengthens games and creates more 'talking points' After PL games, fans are all over social media discussing the decisions, giving even more exposure to the league.

Additionally, some clubs have become global brands that need success. VAR can be used to help maintain the PL as the home of England's globally-recognised clubs. The PL would prefer teams like Spurs, Everton, Chelsea etc to be in the top six and challenging for Europe. When needed, VAR can be used to assist the top teams.

A few years ago most people would have argued that VAR was making games fairer. Now I doubt that many would agree. Many decisions are just plain wrong. Smaller clubs rarely benefit from the marginal offsides and debatable handballs used by VAR to cancel out goals.

Some VAR decisions are so clearly wrong (Bayern game last week is a good example) that the only conclusion you can reach is that the system is bent.
 
To help create 'engagement' and 'buzz' from armchair fans. It lengthens games and creates more 'talking points' After PL games, fans are all over social media discussing the decisions, giving even more exposure to the league.

Additionally, some clubs have become global brands that need success. VAR can be used to help maintain the PL as the home of England's globally-recognised clubs. The PL would prefer teams like Spurs, Everton, Chelsea etc to be in the top six and challenging for Europe. When needed, VAR can be used to assist the top teams.

A few years ago most people would have argued that VAR was making games fairer. Now I doubt that many would agree. Many decisions are just plain wrong. Smaller clubs rarely benefit from the marginal offsides and debatable handballs used by VAR to cancel out goals.

Some VAR decisions are so clearly wrong (Bayern game last week is a good example) that the only conclusion you can reach is that the system is bent.
Some very interesting points there Dkc. It does seem that the top Premier League clubs are immune from VAR controversies. Better to just punish the minnows and make it look like VAR is effective.
 
There's one thing for absolute certain ...... we will get absolutely stuffed by VAR next season in the same way that we were when we were in the PL before :rolleyes:

VAR always favours the PL's favourite Clubs and that won't change 🙈

Hecky will need to drill it into the players next season to play to the whistle (as we will get hardly any decisions in our favour by the PL referees) and we will need to learn to survive the hard way .... against the other team, the officials & VAR o_O

Lets hope for a rapid take-over to clarify the future, a decent budget for Hecky, and a slice of luck that we never usually get 🤞🤞🤞

UTB & FTP
 
There's one thing for absolute certain ...... we will get absolutely stuffed by VAR next season in the same way that we were when we were in the PL before
I don't disagree overall, but I didn't feel we were especially hard done by from VAR. Maybe my memory has blanked out the relegation season.

The Lundstram big toe is the obvious one, but we benefitted from a handball rule that was only in place for 2 years (Declan Rice).

Egan's red at Villa was harsh but it was given on the field IIRC not by VAR and I can understand why the ref gave it.

The ghost goal also at Villa in the first game back after lockdown ... it was a joke but not a VAR issue imo.

The Shelvey goal was also ridiculous. Linesmen were flagging when they shouldn't and weren't flagging when they should ... but he wasn't offside and again not a VAR issue for me.
 

That decision was then, still is now and shall continue to be insane for time immemorial. Worst decision all season? Great contender week 1.
Idea for knew video clip section like best goal, best save, 'worst VAR decisions of the week'. Might get them to sharpen their act up
 
That decision was then, still is now and shall continue to be insane for time immemorial. Worst decision all season? Great contender week 1.
Idea for knew video clip section like best goal, best save, 'worst VAR decisions of the week'. Might get them to sharpen their act up
That could be a long weekly show
 
Just watched Newcastle's 2nd goal at the weekend 5 players offside including the one who receives the ball and passes to the goal scorer.
 
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I wasn't sure what it meant on the scoreboard when it said No foul for the penalty check. Did it mean that the foul was outside the area, or that it wasn't actually a foul, in which case it wasn't a free kick.
 
I wasn't sure what it meant on the scoreboard when it said No foul for the penalty check. Did it mean that the foul was outside the area, or that it wasn't actually a foul, in which case it wasn't a free kick.

Confused the hell out of me. They just make it up as they go along anyway. 🤷‍♂️
 
For the Anel yellow? I thought it was a red card check rather than the foul which was a given
 
Yellow card for the foul outside the box var concluded that the foul didn't continue within the box so no pen no Foul is that clear 😂
 
When we have a contentious issue that could go in our favour and they go to VAR I’m fairly sure there’s a ‘Sheffield United’ button that the refs press that bypasses the VAR panel and goes straight to a “fuck off” decision.
 
Not unhappy with the Egan decision as long as consistency is applied but as we know it won't be.
 
the newcastle game actually conflicted me because i thought at the time, the push on gabriel might have got it ruled out, because the other 2 are inconclusive makes sense, to go with the only on field decision

but then the problem that happens too often is we all in these circumstances are judging players as if they are honest players, & wouldnt go down unless they are fouled if players were honest, but we know that couldnt be further from the truth. as im starting to think that on pro license course they have section on how to turn your players into cheating con artists, as more & more are creeping in, ,so we've got to stop pretending that all these players are honest. whats to say that gabriel knew he'd lost the marker so made the most of the contact to get out of jail
 
Has anyone noticed, I'm sure you all have, that VAR is now under the spotlight more than ever because it involves games that end up costing the "media darlings" games. When it affected us or Wolves then bah. But now it effects Liverpool and Citeh and the almighty Manure, well changes have to be made for the good of the game that the "pundits"just don't recognize anymore. We haven't recognized it since we came back to the Prem the first time. Goal line tech and fkin obvious, I mean very fkin obvious, errors only. Otherwise, bin it and let's get back to the good old days of blaming refs for missing calls, ahhhh a simpler time.
 
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Has anyone noticed, I'm sure you all have, that VAR is now under the spotlight more than ever because it involves games that end up costing the "media darlings" games. When it affected us or Wolves then bah. But now it effects Liverpool and Citeh and the almighty Manure, well changes have to be made for the good of the game that the "pundits"just don't recognize anymore. We haven't recognized it since we came back to the Prem the first time. Goal line tech and fkin obvious, I mean very fkin obvious, errors only. Otherwise, bin it and let's get back to the good old days of blaming refs for missing calls, ahhhh a simpler time.


It's not really surprising given it's whole reason for existence was errors by the officials in very high profile games.
 

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