Potential PL Recruitment Strategies

[MayorOJC]

I would hazard a guess that seen as we haven't been able to afford fertiliser or sky sports in the clubhouse that our recruitment and analytics team haven't been cast that far and wide
Hopefully that will. Change

Nah true. Needs to change though. If Stoke can do it, no excuse for us to not now.

 

[Frank the tank]

It can be, depending on why you prefer them.

"I prefer to sign players from the UK and Ireland because their shared culture makes it easier from them to bond as a team, and a strong team spirit is the most important key to success" is an example of something being both a preference and strategy.

Surely a strategy would be to rule out signing foreign players full stop rather than a preference to stick with what you know on a limited budget ?

It's just a stick to beat the guy with, we've not been in a position to compete financially with clubs already Shopping in that market so any signing would be a real gamble
So maybe wilder prefers to stick with what he knows because he is not retarded
Of he refused to Sign foreigners and we were undwrachieving then fair enough but we aren't

We are lucky, extremely lucky to be where we have been this last decade

 

[dc_blade]

Surely a strategy would be to rule out signing foreign players full stop rather than a preference to stick with what you know on a limited budget ?

It's just a stick to beat the guy with, we've not been in a position to compete financially with clubs already Shopping in that market so any signing would be a real gamble
So maybe wilder prefers to stick with what he knows because he is not retarded
Of he refused to Sign foreigners and we were undwrachieving then fair enough but we aren't

We are lucky, extremely lucky to be where we have been this last decade

I agree with almost all of that. I think Wilder is a terrific manager and has done a brilliant job this season. As you rightly pointed out with the example of Ty Campbell, Wilder is one of the best there is at identifying players that other managers might not see something in and getting season-changing performances out of them.

I can think all of that and still believe that are areas he can improve in. Not every mild criticism of the guy needs to result in such a defensive response.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

What about tyrese Campbell versus Wilson isidor
Or jobe Bellingham vs anis Slimane

Further to that point Grbic, and Olsen or Cooper and Henderson?

 

[MayorOJC]

Further to that point Grbic, and Olsen or Cooper and Henderson?

Think we can always compare best case examples vs. worse case examples. But the main thing is a domestic scouting pool is smaller and more pricey than an international scouting pool. If we're in the position to fund some level of international scouting, there's no doubt it will produce better value for money.

 

[Jimmy Fleck]

Further to that point Grbic, and Olsen or Cooper and Henderson?

Sander berge or Samir carruthers?

 

[robbiez666]

We need a goal scorer for sure. The prem is tough and if Wilder wants to be defensive minded we need someone in the ilk of Kane/Haaland.

Technique and skill is better than athleticism in the Prem.

I think looking for players who can score in the EPL but have fallen out of favour. Likes of Welbeck, Raul, Rashford etc show it's not a skill that vanishes. It's just being able to get one on loan at the right time. Can BBD do it as a striker? I'm a bit surprised he hasn't played there for us.

 

[robbiez666]

As for domestic players, the trick is to target ones with a year left on their contracts.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Sander berge or Samir carruthers?

Not sure that one quite works.

 

[robbiez666]

I think looking for players who can score in the EPL but have fallen out of favour. Likes of Welbeck, Raul, Rashford etc show it's not a skill that vanishes. It's just being able to get one on loan at the right time. Can BBD do it as a striker? I'm a bit surprised he hasn't played there for us.

Alex Scott, for example, should be a potential loan target if Bournemouth bring in more midfielders. Jack Harrison if Everton don't sign him and he doesn't want to be at Leeds.

 

[ml1997]

We don’t need that many players next year. Gilchrist, Clarke, Holding, Choudhury, Rwk-Sakyi and Brereton Díaz’s loans will run out and Brewster and Robinson’s contract will run out. I’d imagine Robbo’s contract will be renewed and Brewster will be 50/50.

Then, I’d hope the squad members who aren’t good enough for the level will leave, probably on loans. I’m thinking McCallum, RND, Seriki and Oné primarily.

That leaves us with needing a RB, CB, winger and ST as absolute necessities for our starting eleven. I’d also like a LB (I don’t think Burrows is good enough) and another winger who are first team level. If there are decent prem players available for loans/ cheep fees/ frees then they’d be perfect as proven prem players are hard to come by. Brereton and Holdijg could maybe provide this. However, these players are hard to come by so this is where I’d target Europe. The type of players I’d like to target is 22-25 year olds with 2+ years at the top level (maybe a bit of European experience) and being physically up to the prem (stronger and faster than the players our squads been full of in recent times).

To fill the rest of the squad I would look at youngsters from the championship who’ll do a job if we go down and maybe become a prem players in 2 or 3 years.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

We don’t need that many players next year. Gilchrist, Clarke, Holding, Choudhury, Rwk-Sakyi and Brereton Díaz’s loans will run out and Brewster and Robinson’s contract will run out. I’d imagine Robbo’s contract will be renewed and Brewster will be 50/50.

Then, I’d hope the squad members who aren’t good enough for the level will leave, probably on loans. I’m thinking McCallum, RND, Seriki and Oné primarily.

That leaves us with needing a RB, CB, winger and ST as absolute necessities for our starting eleven. I’d also like a LB (I don’t think Burrows is good enough) and another winger who are first team level. If there are decent prem players available for loans/ cheep fees/ frees then they’d be perfect as proven prem players are hard to come by. Brereton and Holdijg could maybe provide this. However, these players are hard to come by so this is where I’d target Europe. The type of players I’d like to target is 22-25 year olds with 2+ years at the top level (maybe a bit of European experience) and being physically up to the prem (stronger and faster than the players our squads been full of in recent times).

To fill the rest of the squad I would look at youngsters from the championship who’ll do a job if we go down and maybe become a prem players in 2 or 3 years.

I reckon we’ll need a least 10 new players minimum if we’re promoted.

 

[thehet]

The type of players I’d like to target is 22-25 year olds with 2+ years at the top level (maybe a bit of European experience)

Please provide credible examples.

 

[ml1997]

Please provide credible examples

Don't know as my knowledge of European football isn’t big enough, but they’re out there. By “top level” I mean the highest division in their country.

 

[robbiez666]

We don’t need that many players next year

I'm speechless

 

[loyalblade95]

Best recruitment is getting both the foreign and the domestic markets right as much as possible.

Last time we went up we had a mixed bag with both markets, with success and failure in both.

Foreign: Slimane, Larouci, Traore, BBD, Souza, Grbic (Souza and BBD still here)

Domestic: Hamer, Archer, Trusty, McAtee, T Davies, L Thomas, Holgate (Hamer and T Davies still here)

The best possible recruitment is to get the best possible deals out of both of these markets, regardless of what league they are in.

 

[SGBlade]

If we go up with year I’d still like us take a couple from the champ - Seargent, Rudoni, Hume, Murphy would all be good and realistic signings imo. Maybe take a punt on Sainz and hope he’s not a one season wonder.

If we were to go up and spend, say, 80m (not unrealistic in today’s market), I’d try to:
1) Sign two proven champ players at a good age (pick two from the list above) - 30m total
2) Sign the best two young players from league 1 and league 2 as an investment - 10m total
3) Buy a couple of proven, mature, top-division European players from France, Holland or Scandinavia - 20m total
4) Spunk 10m on wages for two proven 30-something premier league free transfers and hope they can still produce for a year
5) Smash 10m in loan fees for a couple of quality City, Man U or Liverpool youngsters.

I doubt it would be enough but it might give us a chance of being competitive and would leave us in decent nick if we came straight down.

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

The main difference between domestic and foreign transfer is that domestic transfers are often over valued. Clubs could have a player worth £5mil but they'll claim they're worth £10mil. With foreign transfers you generally get them for face value, so they're better value for money.

 

[Jimmy Fleck]

If we go up with year I’d still like us take a couple from the champ - Seargent, Rudoni, Hume, Murphy would all be good and realistic signings imo. Maybe take a punt on Sainz and hope he’s not a one season wonder.

If we were to go up and spend, say, 80m (not unrealistic in today’s market), I’d try to:
1) Sign two proven champ players at a good age (pick two from the list above) - 30m total
2) Sign the best two young players from league 1 and league 2 as an investment - 10m total
3) Buy a couple of proven, mature, top-division European players from France, Holland or Scandinavia - 20m total
4) Spunk 10m on wages for two proven 30-something premier league free transfers and hope they can still produce for a year
5) Smash 10m in loan fees for a couple of quality City, Man U or Liverpool youngsters.

I doubt it would be enough but it might give us a chance of being competitive and would leave us in decent nick if we came straight down.

we’ll spend more than 80, and we’ll need more than a couple of European players. We need ready made prem players in the squad ASAP. Can’t just buy the best from the champ. Murphy, rudoni etc aren’t good enough.

 

[Badger Blade]

We need a goal scorer for sure. The prem is tough and if Wilder wants to be defensive minded we need someone in the ilk of Kane/Haaland.

Technique and skill is better than athleticism in the Prem.

Case in point - Oli Burke.

Supreme athlete who played the game like he was wearing a pair of moon boots.

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

I reckon we’ll need a least 10 new players minimum if we’re promoted.

We need players who will go straight into the first team and improve what we've already got, and not "squad players." This is where we've gone wrong in the past. Too much loyalty to those who got us up. Football is ruthless. I'm sure on £10k - £20k per week you'll soon get over your disappointment.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

We need players who will go straight into the first team and improve what we've already got, and not "squad players." This is where we've gone wrong in the past. Too much loyalty to those who got us up. Football is ruthless. I'm sure on £10k - £20k per week you'll soon get over your disappointment.

I’d say, a right back, a left back, at two center halves, two wide players, a defensive midfielder, possibly a ball carrying midfielder as well plus a forward. All potential starters. Then you also need to fill out some of our squad depth, certainly a second keeper and It’s 10 players easily.
Squad depth is massively important at the PL level because your opposition refreshes half its outfield players from 70 mins and promoted sides are generally breathing out their arses.
They also tend to be bringing players who would be guaranteed starters for us and it’s this that has effectively gamed the league for 90% of established PL clubs.

 

[DifferentClass]

Players that are forrun but not too forrun like BBD and Chouders.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

In all seriousness, the requirements IMO are quite clear:

Players with resale value and a higher ceiling. That being either EFL signings, players leaving academies or foreign signings.

Sort the spine of the side. Cooper, Souttar and Anel, Souza and Blaster was very settled and assured. I was confident every week. Which is unusual as a Blade.

Pace, strength, athleticism. Even if on a budget basis. We need athletes who can ball a little. Everyone's doing it.

Crucially, pick a system, tailor the squad to that system and add depth. Leeds and Burnley currently have like-for-like replacements all over the pitch. We can't afford to drop off in quality or game plan with the 5 subs.

 

[Rodley]

We started the first game with this team in our last PL season. The summer was a diabolical mess*.



I think our current line up is better than that by a significant margin. If we make it up, I expect we’dspend £80-£100m, some of which would go on club infrastructure. That along with the club not operating in a self-destructive fashion* and rather actually trying to stay up, would lead to an inevitably very tough but more enjoyable season.

Got to get through the next few games, few twists and turns before May!

 

[loyalblade95]

A lot of it will depend on whether we stick with 4-2-3-1 or go for something like 4-3-3/4-5-1 instead. We tried both those formations for a few games when Wilder returned.

Similar to how we switched from the attacking 3-4-1-2 to the more solid defensive 3-5-2 in 19/20.

Think 8 signings at the absolute minimum, whether that will keep us up is another question though.

GK, RB, CB x 2, CDM, CM, RW, LW

Any other shrewd signings would be good as well, Brownhill and Egan-Riley if Burnley aren't promoted.

Make BBD, Choudhury and Holding permanent signings, Holding might not have played much for us but he's got bags of much needed PL experience.

GK: Gunn (replaces A Davies)
RB: Dunne (replaces Gilchrist and Clarke)
CB: Holding and Souttar, or Tanganga if we can work out a good deal (1 replaces Robbo, other starts with Anel)
CDM: Choudhury (Souza cover)
CM: T Doyle (competition in midfield)
RW: BBD (stronger on the left but he's been good enough on the right)
LW: Sainz (starts on LW and probably moves Hamer into midfield)

 

[ATL Recs]

The board are seemingly focused on AI/stats based recruitment so I guess we'll get what we get, whether domestic or abroad, providing the fees are agreeable.

I think the likes of Holding and BBD will be signed if we go up, possibly Hamza too. Souttar maybe, depending on how he gets on with his recovery.

I for one will have a much more enthusiastic and positive mindset about going up this time than last, given the new owners and what I think will be a respectable budget in addition to promotion funds. I just hope we bloody do it!!

Dont want Holding BBD Hamza - Souttar maybe if fit the first three completely underwhelming

 

[Tony_Kaufman]

I'd happily take BBD as we know he can perform at Premier League level. He might not be a stand out in performance overall so far since his return, but he's had 3 goals 3 assists in 12 games from the wing. It's a no brainer for me.

There are question marks around why Leicester didn't want Souttar in the Premier League, but I'd be willing to take that gamble, if he can be fit for next season.

 

[MayorOJC]

Would take BBD as a backup LW / CF, I don't really rate him as much on the right. Would probably only cost £5-6m which is peanuts for the current market.

Souttar won't be fit for the start of the season. One to consider in the winter maybe.

 

[s20Blade]

Have we think we're good at churning out english lads from the academy so I'd like us to expand anit more in the foreign market personally think there can be better bargains.