POLL : Do You Think The Prince Is Going To Back The Manager

[PurpleRain]

Recruitment is an overall problem in the group. At Beerschot last season we signed two record fee transfers, 1.5 million for Eleke from fc Luzern en same amount for Suzuki a Japanese international. Both have turned out to be complete misfits. For our club the combined 3 mio transfer fees were huge, comparable to what you spend for Brewster. And we are carrying the consequences now. What’s happening at our club and in Sheffield is very comparable and it’s down to lack of know how in the transfer market. It also seems they refuse to work with a number of high profile player agents and these guys are very powerful. It’s like a maffia that decides which players go where and if you’re not in their circle you get done by. That’s an explanation why miss so many transfer targets.

 

[Stretch]

I am keeping my powder largely dry on this until the transfer window has slammed shut. Then we'll know one way or the other.

Admittedly the signs aren't good at the moment, but I just can not see why the Prince would pay top dollar for a manager like Slav, and then not back him

GK, CDM and 2 attacking midfielders/ wingers desperately needed me thinks. Over to you SUFC.

 

[Bladeinleeds]

Footage of Slav reviewing the squad before picking tonight’s team


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[him behind you]

He'll back him as far as we can afford to.

 

[Big Hitter]

I am keeping my powder largely dry on this until the transfer window has slammed shut. Then we'll know one way or the other.

Admittedly the signs aren't good at the moment, but I just can not see why the Prince would pay top dollar for a manager like Slav, and then not back him

GK, CDM and 2 attacking midfielders/ wingers desperately needed me thinks. Over to you SUFC.

If Slav goes then we better get the skipper of the bleedin' Cromer lifeboat in.

 

[Railway Blade]

I don't think we have the money for new signings as has been alluded to. Therefore I think it will be free transfers and maybe a couple of loan signings, unless the owners decide to sell the the most saleable assets such as Berge and Jebbison. We may then see a bit of last minute dealing but its getting a bit tight for anything other than last minute panic buys.

 

[Jon Bon II]

I don't think we have the money for new signings as has been alluded to. Therefore I think it will be free transfers and maybe a couple of loan signings, unless the owners decide to sell the the most saleable assets such as Berge and Jebbison. We may then see a bit of last minute dealing but its getting a bit tight for anything other than last minute panic buys.

Sorry, I really don't want to be the one to ask 'weer's moneh gone?' but if that's the case, weer has t'moneh gone? We've just come down from the EPL with parachute payments in tow and we've just flogged a goalie for £24m+, so weer is it?

 

[Maidenhead]

They’re demands aren’t large by any stretch of the imagination. One of them only wants to go on loan to a team of his choice not beerschot

A team of HIS choice?

Who the fuck does he think he is?

He's an employee and he does what his manager thinks is best for him.

 

[Prem owner needed]

There were a few rumours circulating that it was payment wholly or substantially “on the nose”.

Alleged substantial initial payment (in and allocated for!)

 

[adamawdhali]

A team of HIS choice?

Who the fuck does he think he is?

He's an employee and he does what his manager thinks is best for him.

Manager wanted him to go Sunderland. Not about what manager or player wants

 

[raul]

I am keeping my powder largely dry on this until the transfer window has slammed shut. Then we'll know one way or the other.

Admittedly the signs aren't good at the moment, but I just can not see why the Prince would pay top dollar for a manager like Slav, and then not back him

GK, CDM and 2 attacking midfielders/ wingers desperately needed me thinks. Over to you SUFC.

I would suspect he saw things like many of our members on here . Tore it up three years ago. great at Swansea etc etc. In his defence, it's easy to be seduced into that belief when the general Punditry shares it too.

 

[Blade58]

It appears not

Budget determines the calibre if player we pursue. Looking at a loan GK and 35 year old, on the face of it, looks poor form

I haven't seen the club linked with one purchase, certainly not one purchase of Championship average value

 

[Railway Blade]

Sorry, I really don't want to be the one to ask 'weer's moneh gone?' but if that's the case, weer has t'moneh gone? We've just come down from the EPL with parachute payments in tow and we've just flogged a goalie for £24m+, so weer is it?

I assume the majority has gone on buying back the stadium, the hotel, the enterprise centre and the Crookes complex along with funding the increased wage bill both in terms of playing staff and others.

 

[Maidenhead]

A team of HIS choice?

Manager wanted him to go Sunderland. Not about what manager or player wants

At the end of the day it's the owners perogative to utilise the business assets in the way that suits him best.

 

[adamawdhali]

At the end of the day it's the owners perogative to utilise the business assets in the way that suits him best.

But what suits the owner best isn’t necessarily best for the player. The manager, player, hecky and lester will know what’s best not van winckel trying to improve his reputation in belgium. Im all for loaning players to beerschot but not forcing them

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

I am keeping my powder largely dry on this until the transfer window has slammed shut. Then we'll know one way or the other.

Admittedly the signs aren't good at the moment, but I just can not see why the Prince would pay top dollar for a manager like Slav, and then not back him

GK, CDM and 2 attacking midfielders/ wingers desperately needed me thinks. Over to you SUFC.

I'm trying to do the same, Stretch but not holding out much hope. I agree, that the signs aren't good.

I feel confident in one thing, without money or backing - Slav will walk. The current situation persists as is, and Slav walks before Xmas IMO.

 

[BerksBlade]

Allegedly the Ramsdale fee has covered what was owed to his previous club and one of the installments on Berge. The next one due is apparently for Brewster, hence why they will listen to offers for him, should £10m+ come in, this will go along way to paying off what is owed to Liverpool, that just leaves the two Derby lads, hence again why they would prefer a perm move for Lowe and not a loan.

The owner does not have the wealth required to single handedly run a football club in the English Championship or above and never has had, hence this total bollox idea of a self financing football club. Didn't McCabe try that one?

Statements were made before the season started to the effect of: "we don't need to sell anyone" or "we want to keep the squad together". So how would we have afforded the payments for Ramsdale & Berge without selling Ramsdale? Were the club lying all along about needing to sell?

 

[Pollingtonblade]

If Wendy got relegated from the prem and said we want to keep the squad together, we would be howling with derision at them.

 

[CPB]

Unless they pull out some outstanding signings he's already let Slav down a bit by not getting some players in by now (Bar Davies).

I said when Wilder went that eyes are on the board now for me. Wilder like him or not did challenge the board to move things on regards transfers, improvements or even boardroom/ownership harmony. Some would say it's out of order but if it stops you performing your job it is only that it's mentioned to the press which isn't that unusual.

I have a growing concern given the Prince's interview and some of the targets so far that the board are maybe out of touch.
For instance Soucek wouldn't have come to us over West Ham. Amad Diallo, is he really likely to come when PL or Serie A clubs fancy him on loan.
I'm all for going after quality or the best you can but there is also a sense of realism here. It's not fantasy football. I dunno I could be talking rubbish here too.

Wonder if there will be any transfer news today...

 

[Grizzly blade]

When you buy a business you acquire its assets and its liabilities they become yours. If we continue on this current downturn and end up deep in debt will you say it’s the clubs debt not the owners?

The club is operated as a business.

He owns the business, the business owns the assets.
If SUFC buy a player for a million pounds, SUFC has to pay it not the owner. He doesn’t spend his money….if he has it he may loan it to the club to use, but he personally doesn’t own that asset.

The value to him is how much his business is worth. If it’s making a lot of money and owns a lot of valuable assets it’s value is high. If it goes where it’s looking like it’s going, those assets are worth less.
So in your example, if we were to keep going and go bust, whose assets are sold to pay the debt? The business or the owner?
Business.

I would also bet my left nut that he’s not mortgaged anything like his personal property or other assets to lend cash to the club. He’s put money in to get part and then sole ownership of the business.

Question is….at this point now who would you trust more. Prince or McCabe??

 

[Jon Bon II]

I assume the majority has gone on buying back the stadium, the hotel, the enterprise centre and the Crookes complex along with funding the increased wage bill both in terms of playing staff and others.

That's ok then. I don't know about you but I just love a third tier club with their own stadium, hotel, enterprise centre and a complex at Crookes. It's why I fell in love with the game as a child.

 

[Prem owner needed]

The club is operated as a business.

He owns the business, the business owns the assets.
If SUFC buy a player for a million pounds, SUFC has to pay it not the owner. He doesn’t spend his money….if he has it he may loan it to the club to use, but he personally doesn’t own that asset.

The value to him is how much his business is worth. If it’s making a lot of money and owns a lot of valuable assets it’s value is high. If it goes where it’s looking like it’s going, those assets are worth less.
So in your example, if we were to keep going and go bust, whose assets are sold to pay the debt? The business or the owner?
Business.

I would also bet my left nut that he’s not mortgaged anything like his personal property or other assets to lend cash to the club. He’s put money in to get part and then sole ownership of the business.

Question is….at this point now who would you trust more. Prince or McCabe??

Prince or McCabe?? - Neither, both are not what is required in terms of ownership of this proud football club. Both have/are abused/abusing their privilege of stewardship of this fine football club and fantastic fans.

 

[Chilttheblade]

Allegedly the Ramsdale fee has covered what was owed to his previous club and one of the installments on Berge. The next one due is apparently for Brewster, hence why they will listen to offers for him, should £10m+ come in, this will go along way to paying off what is owed to Liverpool, that just leaves the two Derby lads, hence again why they would prefer a perm move for Lowe and not a loan.

The owner does not have the wealth required to single handedly run a football club in the English Championship or above and never has had, hence this total bollox idea of a self financing football club. Didn't McCabe try that one?

This seems to make sense and maybe true.
However who would take a chance on Brewster? No one in the Championship can afford that amount of money and everyone has seen he is not a footballer.
The court case seemed to confirm that they all wanted to do a cheap flip with the club. The Prince won the case but failed to sell maybe because of COVID.
Now he’s stuck with it and whether he can afford it until the club find its level remains to be seen

 

[bypassblade]

Unsure on this the Prince backed Wilder to a pretty hefty tune and let's face it got his fingers badly burned, he knows he has to back Slav but seems very reticent to do so.

 

[Cheesebored]

Question is….at this point now who would you trust more. Prince or McCabe??

Let it go Kev.