Playing style this season and next

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After a difficult start we have done fantastically well this season, and gradually we have showed that we have too much quality compared to the other teams. At the moment we seem able to make changes while continuing to win pretty comfortably.

Wilder had to make changes to get it right. In pre season and in the first few games we played 4-2-3-1, which sometimes looked like a narrow 4-4-2 as Clarke pushed up to support Sharp. The two of them couldn't make it work and although we dominated games we struggled to score.

I had not expected the switch to the 3-5-2, although it also happened the previous season under Adkins. Wilder said he would sign players to fit his preferred system, but after evaluating things, realised he had to make tactical changes to get more out of the players he had at his disposal. I find it hugely impressive that he was flexible enough to do that.

Helped by the composure, vision and quality of Coutts and Fleck our playmaking became better. Some wing backs struggle to make a big enough impact on teams' attacking play, but with opposition teams defending deep and sacrificing their own width, Freeman and Lafferty were allowed to bomb forward. Sharp were allowed to stay in the box and score goals while Done did the running and chasing. Even the wide centre backs contributed with runs on and off the ball, overlapping. With three big centre backs we were also a real threat from set pieces, an element that Nigel Clough completely neglected.

As teams were so afraid of us they usually defended deep and allowed us a lot of possession. There was little chance to run in behind teams, which meant pace up front - a weakness of ours - wasn't really missed. Done offered some (although his main contribution was chasing and selfless running), Lavery and Chapman also gave us that in some games, but mostly our games was about breaking down opposition that came and "parked the bus". We became good at this - again in contrast to Clough, whose teams countered well and excelled against Prem/Championship teams, but often struggled in League One.


In a couple of spells we struggled this season. It's difficult to keep having the creativity and ability to cut through 10 players deep in their own half with neat little passes every game. On occasions we seemed reluctant to hit in a cross, knowing that we had little aerial ability to compete against big centre halves. Wilder saw this and brought in James Hanson - a player that is limited, but has presence and is very strong in the air. Defending deep, allowing crosses and concentrating on clearing them against our small strikers, became a not-so perfect plan, when the big Hanson joined our attack. His signing was about adding another weapon, another string to our bow, and to make us less predictable towards the last few months of the season. It contributed to other teams never "finding us out".

Other key elements to Wilder's playing style is work rate, motivation, tempo, things that underdog teams often use to try cancelling out a difference in ability. But we have more than matched teams in those areas as well, often leaving ability to be the decisive factor in games.



I am really not sure how Wilder plans to do things next season. I think a lot of fans want and expect us to just go on like we have, same style, same attacking football, dominating possession and winning. We should remember though that we will meet better teams in the Championship. Although we will strengthen I do not expect us to have more individual quality than the best teams. I don't think the better teams will allow us to dominate possession as much, and if they do (at the Lane) they will do it with better defenders and better organisation, and more quality when countering.

It may be the case that Wilder will plan to play a bit more like he did at Northampton (and originally with us), which means a bit more solid midfield and more emphasis on pressing, pace and counter attacking. We have looked vulnerable defensively in midfield a few times, with Coutts and Fleck struggling to cover enough ground in what has sometimes looked like a two-man midfield. We also need more pace, as there will be more space in behind teams to exploit, and we can't neglect that.

I expect the work rate, team spirit and overall decent tactics will continue to be strengths of ours. It will be very interesting to see what type of signings we'll make this summer. They will be giving some hints about what tweaks Wilder thinks are required to make us adapt to Championship football.
 



Agree with that. Pace throughout the spine is needed, and we need to be more solid when not in possession. A back four is very likely.

I worry for Freeman next season.
 
Interesting summer in store in terms of ins and outs.

Also which of this years shoe ins may have to make do with more of a squad role.

UTB
 
I think we'll definitely give the 3-5-2 a chance initially, but we won't be able to be quite so cavalier.

The least that will mean is the wing backs playing with a bit more defensive discipline.

We'll look to compensate for their reduced attacking impact through having better quality up front, including pace. Another possibility is upgrading our wing backs, which is certainly something we should consider if we're looking to commit to 3-5-2.

As long as we have Coutts and Fleck in midfield, we'll continue with a similar style to the current one. But we won't be able to out pass teams as often, so we'll need more players with that individual ability to make things happen, and ideally a good set piece taker.

I can see us playing with a back 4 quite often, which means we'll probably be signing a right back who's comfortable in a back 4, like Conor McLaughlin or Jason McCarthy (CB who's done well at RWB for Walsall).

I think the focus would remain on passing the ball but with more of an emphasis on pressing and high tempo. I also think we'd go with more of a diamond in a 4-4-2 than play with conventional wingers.

I think 4-2-3-1 is the most likely alternative to 3-5-2 though, because it would give us the best of both - the solidity of a back 4 but the numbers and central midfield shape to play a similar possession game. We've always gone with 2 strikers this season so that would be the loss, but factor in the addition of a striker who can play the lone role and it would be a good option for us.
 
Interesting post Bergen, I feel our skillful midfielders could be effective next season, if we had gone down this season from the championship playing the way we have people would be very quick to point out, oh you cant play tgat sort of football in division 1, and your midfield is small and lightweight, not something I have ever felt, to me better footballers win more ganes than they lose, I am definitely looking forward to see how we go about it nextseason, I dont see why we have to Dramatically change our style and formation, however I think changing tactics in a game will happen an awful lot more, a good and interesting post Bergen
 
We have seen the Team go from 3 at the back to 4 at the back .... which is pretty impressive on its own

But to do this in a game is a bit special
 
If we switch to a back four we need a hell of a lot more players than if we stick with a back three and wingbacks, at any point we've switched to four at the back during the season the fullbacks have looked shaky and O'Connell is dodgy positionally (as he was before the switch to three at the back). Wright might not play much next season anyway, but there's no way he could fit in a 4 and whether in defence or midfield Basham is more comfortable in a three than a two. That doesn't even take into account that our central midfielders are all more suited to three in the middle. Sticking with what we do now just means cutting a few players who lack the ability to step up and adding a few new players to give us the option of changing tactics. Planning to alter the system from the start means a major overhaul as half of the current first team is far less effective in a different formation.
 
It's who we buy rather than formation for me. Top quality CB and striker for the league we are going into. The side we have is good enough for mid table now.
 
The reason our formation has been so effective is that man for man, we've had better players than most of our opponents. We've just outplayed them.
That won't be the case next season and if we just try to out-football a lot of the teams they'll tear us apart.
 
Interesting post Bergen, I feel our skillful midfielders could be effective next season, if we had gone down this season from the championship playing the way we have people would be very quick to point out, oh you cant play tgat sort of football in division 1, and your midfield is small and lightweight, not something I have ever felt, to me better footballers win more ganes than they lose, I am definitely looking forward to see how we go about it nextseason, I dont see why we have to Dramatically change our style and formation, however I think changing tactics in a game will happen an awful lot more, a good and interesting post Bergen

I think Coutts and Fleck would more than hold their own in terms of what they do in possession. The question is if better quality opponents will give them more to do defensively than they like, which has happened on occasions even in this division. As you mention we have made tweaks during games by pushing Basham into midfield to strengthen us there and we may be forced to consider doing something similar from the start. Will be interesting to see!
 
The variety of play this season has been great. Looking back at Southend away we seemed to do a lot through the middle in that game.
I also fear for Freeman. Love this guy but is that his limit, hope not?
The point about greater responsibility in midfield defending is valid for next season as well. That is why we have looked more exposed at the back at times also.
There will have been plenty of times that a championship quality player would probably have finished against us that a league 1 player has not?
 
I don't think the better teams will allow us to dominate possession as much, and if they do (at the Lane) they will do it with better defenders and better organisation, and more quality when countering.

Great post BB but I question your line about 'dominating possession as much'. Immediately after games my mind often thinks we had 60-70% of the ball but that is an impression formed by our quality play.

If you check out the facts you will even see when we slaughter sides, we often only have about 50% possession. Take Bradford, where we had less than half!

Home TeamSheff UtdAway TeamBradford
Possession
Home48%
Away52%

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39549961

 
The variety of play this season has been great. Looking back at Southend away we seemed to do a lot through the middle in that game.
I also fear for Freeman. Love this guy but is that his limit, hope not?
The point about greater responsibility in midfield defending is valid for next season as well. That is why we have looked more exposed at the back at times also.
There will have been plenty of times that a championship quality player would probably have finished against us that a league 1 player has not?

It's interesting to know what you feel about Freeman.
In the past, in a 4 at RB, he has been destroyed. As a WB, he is fabulous.
I suppose Freeman's progression depends on how CW & AK see us developing in the future. If it's a 4, then Freeman has to up his defensive capabilities.

UTB
 
When Bergen Blade drops a tactical analysis thread, Rodley be like...

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I think Coutts and Fleck would more than hold their own in terms of what they do in possession. The question is if better quality opponents will give them more to do defensively than they like, which has happened on occasions even in this division. As you mention we have made tweaks during games by pushing Basham into midfield to strengthen us there and we may be forced to consider doing something similar from the start. Will be interesting to see!

Agreed we need a mobile and strong centre midfielder who can cover defensively.
 



Great post BB but I question your line about 'dominating possession as much'. Immediately after games my mind often thinks we had 60-70% of the ball but that is an impression formed by our quality play.

If you check out the facts you will even see when we slaughter sides, we often only have about 50% possession. Take Bradford, where we had less than half!


Home TeamSheff UtdAway TeamBradford
Possession
Home48%
Away52%

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/39549961

Didn't we go on a run (quite recently), where we had >50% possession in about twenty consecutive matches?
 
Looking at the squad we have right now and thinking about Bergen Blade's comments on pressing and counter attacking I personally think we have a good foundation right now for a 4-3-3 formation.

Carruthers for me has clearly been bought with next season in mind and would do well as the more attacking midfield in a compact 3 (with Coutts and Fleck holding). Lavery was used primarily as a winger at Wednesday and I think his direct running style would suit an inside forward role down to a tee. 4-3-3 also has the advantage of using both 4 at the back while giving license for full backs to push on more (albeit less so than 3-5-2) so Freeman and Lafferty can keep doing what they do without too much of a change to their game.

For me it also means that a lot of teams in the championship get stifled with 3 I'm midfield and so sets up counter attacking play well for us which is a tactic we'll have to employ more in the championship. Realistically we only need about 3 good first team signings to make it work too, a left winger (that Marshall bloke from Bradford?) a right sided CB (Jason McCarthy?) and a good complete striker (whats David Villa up to these days?) so we don't need a complete overhaul of players.

Failing all the above just hoof it to Billy and hope one goes in off his arse.
 
I wonder if it will be us parking the bus away from home next season and playing counter attack.
It will be interesting to see how CW approaches it,who we bring in,and who is capable of making the step up...Maybe we'll be surprised by how some players adapt,you never know sometimes...if a Centre Back pairing of Huth and Morgan can win the Prem and play in Europe,anything is possible...I wouldn't have given them a prayer.
 
Looking at the squad we have right now and thinking about Bergen Blade's comments on pressing and counter attacking I personally think we have a good foundation right now for a 4-3-3 formation.

Carruthers for me has clearly been bought with next season in mind and would do well as the more attacking midfield in a compact 3 (with Coutts and Fleck holding). Lavery was used primarily as a winger at Wednesday and I think his direct running style would suit an inside forward role down to a tee. 4-3-3 also has the advantage of using both 4 at the back while giving license for full backs to push on more (albeit less so than 3-5-2) so Freeman and Lafferty can keep doing what they do without too much of a change to their game.

For me it also means that a lot of teams in the championship get stifled with 3 I'm midfield and so sets up counter attacking play well for us which is a tactic we'll have to employ more in the championship. Realistically we only need about 3 good first team signings to make it work too, a left winger (that Marshall bloke from Bradford?) a right sided CB (Jason McCarthy?) and a good complete striker (whats David Villa up to these days?) so we don't need a complete overhaul of players.

Failing all the above just hoof it to Billy and hope one goes in off his arse.
I've always been of the opinion that you need a holding midfielder in a 433, to allow the fullbacks to push on. Like Chelsea under Mourinho when they had Makalele as the holding midfielder, Essien as the link player and Lampard as the attacking midfielder.
I can see Carruthers in the Lampard role and Fleck as the link player but I'm not convinced Coutts is a good defensive midfielder. Basham? Not sure about his distribution but then Makalele never made long or difficult passes, just won the ball and gave it to someone who can play.
 
Some of the best football I've seen at the Lane is in a 3-5-2 formation under Kendall, then Spackman and now Wilder. It's taken us this far, I say stick with it, I think we'll surprise a few clubs next year. Barnsley were bang average and would have pushed more for the top 6 if they hadn't sold important players, we've got nothing to worry about with the current team, 3/4 quality additions and we'll finish top 10.
 
I can see us playing with a back 4 quite often, which means we'll probably be signing a right back who's comfortable in a back 4, like Conor McLaughlin or Jason McCarthy (CB who's done well at RWB for Walsall).

Or Maybe someone like John Brayford? ;)
 
I could see Freeman stepping forward into a four in midfield with a similar role as a wingback. Some defending but pushing on. That leaves Laffs at left back, JoC inside, Bash or Riley (if he comes back) on the right and Jake Wright or a.n.other as Centre Right. EEL maybe as cover?

I know Freeman isn't a midfielder but I think he could do the job.
 
I've always been of the opinion that you need a holding midfielder in a 433, to allow the fullbacks to push on. Like Chelsea under Mourinho when they had Makalele as the holding midfielder, Essien as the link player and Lampard as the attacking midfielder.
I can see Carruthers in the Lampard role and Fleck as the link player but I'm not convinced Coutts is a good defensive midfielder. Basham? Not sure about his distribution but then Makalele never made long or difficult passes, just won the ball and gave it to someone who can play.

Yeah, I thought Basham for that role too. Particularly because Wilder likes having him in the starting lineup for the freedom of changing formation during a game. I would like to think that if we did go 4-3-3 however then we would probably bring an extra midfielder more in the Makalele mould to shore us up defensively like you said. We have a good foundation for 4-3-3 though and we have played it a few times during the season so it wouldn't be a million miles away to consider it.
 
We have seen the Team go from 3 at the back to 4 at the back .... which is pretty impressive on its own

But to do this in a game is a bit special
I don't think changing formation during a game is in its self anything special. Good teams, modern day footballers and modern day managers use various formations throughout a game week in week out.
This is part of football today. If you can't change formation in todays game there is something seriously wrong.
 
I can see a big right sided centre back joining the club in the summer.

JOC has shown he is the natural choice on the left of a back 3 or as a left sided c back in a 4.

One thing is for sure, CW will have a squad which can easily rotate into various formations. That has been one strong point of many this season.
 
I cannot understand why everybody is writing Freeman off for next season.
He has scored 10 goals this season!!!
On that alone I think he deserves a chance to play in the championship.
And somebody who mentioned replacing him with a Walsall wingback, remind me where Walsall are finishing in the table...
 
I cannot understand why everybody is writing Freeman off for next season.
He has scored 10 goals this season!!!
On that alone I think he deserves a chance to play in the championship.
And somebody who mentioned replacing him with a Walsall wingback, remind me where Walsall are finishing in the table...

not convinced anyone is writing Freeman off - his strength is not defending and i've seen him skinned numerous times. (under previous managers of course)
His strength is wingback where he is exceptional at tier 3 level.
Can he defend in a flat back 4 in tier 2 is probably what most are concerned about - it's down to the player himself to learn that art along with hopefully good coaching from AK.

UTB
 
not convinced anyone is writing Freeman off - his strength is not defending and i've seen him skinned numerous times. (under previous managers of course)
His strength is wingback where he is exceptional at tier 3 level.
Can he defend in a flat back 4 in tier 2 is probably what most are concerned about - it's down to the player himself to learn that art along with hopefully good coaching from AK.

UTB

Under previous managers he was younger and maybe not coached as well. I have seen nothing to worry about defensively this season.
Can he defend in a flat back 4?
At present we do not play a flat back four unless Wilder changes it mid match so the question is irrelevant.
 
I think Coutts and Fleck would more than hold their own in terms of what they do in possession. The question is if better quality opponents will give them more to do defensively than they like, which has happened on occasions even in this division. As you mention we have made tweaks during games by pushing Basham into midfield to strengthen us there and we may be forced to consider doing something similar from the start. Will be interesting to see!
Feel sure that Wilder will have all bases covered.Add that bit of quality and pace which we do lack in certain areas and we can push on.Wouldn't surprise me if we're in the mix next season ,confidence in Wilder.
 



I think there will be questions raised over every player as to whether they can make the step up next season. We all have our favourites so this kind of thread will always cause debate.

IMO the majority of the first team squad will get a chance to show what they can do against better opponents.

That said CW has already admitted that he has players in his squad who he already feels will not make the step up.

We have players who at the top of there game have been fantastic in league one. The issue is that if they drop 5% on that level they have a nightmare. We should be looking at players who can drop that 5% and still produce an 8 out of 10 performance.

I think we have a few first team regulars that are at the peak of their powers that make them very good L1 players, but drop 5% and they struggle.

I hope that kind of makes sense.
 

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