Players out boozing

[Slim Man]

How on earth do you substantiate that? I see Leeds, Bradford, Huddersfield, Boro players out and about up here all the time. Unless you're seeing people falling out of clubs or kebab shops at daft o'clock in the morning, I can't really see what the issue is.

To reiterate, there's enough stuff to be concerned about at SUFC without thinking of / inventing new things to moan about.

No, you just see them getting thrown out of clubs instead.

 

[sitwell]

Why didn't a reply from you surprise me?

If you're going to obsess over posters, at least be consistent and aim your discontent at all who have expressed the same view.

So you expect me to see post after post from you slagging my football club off and not respond ? Get bent.
I do respond to your chums too if you bother to read.

 

[vorpal blade]

yes but a lot of the best sportsmen and women in the world are on drugs

FACT

 

[Slim Man]

So you expect me to see post after post from you slagging my football club off and not respond ? Get bent.
I do respond to your chums too if you bother to read.

Having the same opinion as someone doesn't make them 'chums' sorry pal.

 

[itsinyerblood]

This thread brings up not unexpected non-stories.

The earlier suggestion that Adkins complained about fitness levels when he was appointed manager - this is a commonly held deflection purportedly from new managers about the previous managerial regime. It's meant to suggest that there's plenty of work to do which might take months and months to correct. This is hardly headline news and now warrants a reason/excuse that shouldn't be taken too seriously. After all, with one manager departing after another, how unfit must a side be to get this side of their game sorted? With the current fashion for short-lived managerial tenancy, there may be something to consider in this. To get a side up to expected fitness levels might extend a manager's shelf-life, on the other hand it could be complete bollocks.....

I think we all seek reasons or explanations for poor performances. I doubt that most players lack fitness, but whether they have that inbuilt desire to do well, to work hard, and to make a significant contribution during a game, well that's something that only the individual can answer. Lip-service is something we've all come to expect in football, both from players and managers too. Who's going to admit to getting their part of the equation wrong? A manager? No way Jose. A player? During my lifetime I can barely recall a player admitting to giving less than was expected of him.

So, to wind up, what explains a dismal showing such as Saturday? I've no idea, but I do hope that someone at the Lane is willing to talk openly, honestly, and with the type of truthful analysis that shouldn't be objected to. At least this might help the squad to understand it's duties and obligations. They shouldn't need this, but if it helps then someone should get stuck in and express matters in the way I think we'd all appreciate.

 

[Bladebri]

After Saturday I bet they weren't drinking shots.

Taxi.................

 

[Ricky]

The thought of third division substitutes going out with their entourage giving it the 'big I am' is actually hilarious.

 

[Rodders]

Personally, I don't mind if the players have a drink; that's up to them - it's all legal. But this is a totally different game to 20/30 years ago - comparisons to Bassett's Wimbledon sides, George Best etc just aren't valid any more. All teams are fully geared up with nutritionalists, sports scientists etc - any slight advantage a team can have in conditioning, preparation for games should be taken.
No, not drinking won't turn them into Premiership superstars, but it's all about little 5%'s - being able to give 5% extra in the 87 minute to make a last-ditch tackle, being 5% more mentally alert to not lose your marker at a corner, being 5% more stronger in aerial battles, 50/50's etc. All those 5%'s all add up at the end of the game to seeing out a victory, or snatching a draw from defeat. Other teams in our league will all be doing this, why can't our lads?
As I said, I'm not saying they can't have a drink - I'm disappointed they're choosing to, however.

 

[Rodley]

No, you just see them getting thrown out of clubs instead.

Feel free to elaborate Danny. I hope trolling pays well though as legal aid is hard to come by these days.

 

[Rodley]

Personally, I don't mind if the players have a drink; that's up to them - it's all legal. But this is a totally different game to 20/30 years ago - comparisons to Bassett's Wimbledon sides, George Best etc just aren't valid any more. All teams are fully geared up with nutritionalists, sports scientists etc - any slight advantage a team can have in conditioning, preparation for games should be taken.
No, not drinking won't turn them into Premiership superstars, but it's all about little 5%'s - being able to give 5% extra in the 87 minute to make a last-ditch tackle, being 5% more mentally alert to not lose your marker at a corner, being 5% more stronger in aerial battles, 50/50's etc. All those 5%'s all add up at the end of the game to seeing out a victory, or snatching a draw from defeat. Other teams in our league will all be doing this, why can't our lads?
As I said, I'm not saying they can't have a drink - I'm disappointed they're choosing to, however.

I think it's likely that any significant boozing / poor diets would immediately be identified by the sports science systems in place at most league clubs.

 

[Rodders]

I think it's likely that any significant boozing / poor diets would immediately be identified by the sports science systems in place at most league clubs.

It may do, but I'm not on about significant boozing - it's about the players taking (or not) the responsibility to be the best they can be; to ensure they are at peak physical performance all throughout the week, and then at the weekend. If them not boozing leads to saving even just 4-5 points a season that could mean the difference between success and failure, then why not do it?

 

[Slim Man]

Feel free to elaborate Danny. I hope trolling pays well though as legal aid is hard to come by these days.

Have named no names and have said nothing that isn't true. Think it would be very hard to build a case, don't you?

How on earth am I trolling too?
I have already said that it's just an opinion, and quite a few seem to agree with me. Are they trolls too?

Get a grip son.

 

[PeteBlade]

Without going through 70 responses, can someone let me know how went from seeing a couple of players out drinking on Saturday to 'serious drinking culture at the club?'.

Thanks in advance.

 

[Slug]

If some of you had seen how they were showing off Saturday night then i think you would have a different opinion.
I would never be one to tell them they couldn't go out but i think if you did insist on going out in Sheffield just hours after being turned over with a whimper by Millwall at home, then you should at least keep a bit of professionalism and decorum about yourself.
That would mean not being so drunk by 8pm that you can barely stand and then have to be thrown out by a bouncer because you are pushing in to women at the bar and falling all over them.
I would also say that throwing things at people and pouring drinks over eachothers heads isn't the wisest thing to do either.
I was truely embarrassed for them Saturday night the way that some of them were conducting themselves

 

[metty]

Who was it? Name and Shame. Have you complained to the club? I'm sure that if you did then some sort of action would be taken. Nigel Adkins strikes me as a person who wouldn't take too kindly to this.

 

[robbiez666]

I know who it is and have video evidence

 

[Slug]

 

[robbiez666]

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In all seriousness, I assume this is a group of players as opposed to one or two?

 

[Slug]

I would say there was a good 10 of the first team squad out.
Most behaved well but there were 3 individuals who's behaviour was quite frankly appalling.
It wouldn't take a rocket scientist to work out who they might be

 

[Blade56]

Thin end of the wedge, if they want to be pro football players alcohol and late nights should not form part of their lifestyle!

If the player who's name shall not be spoken had stayed at home with his missus and a DVD, he and the club would be in a very different (and better) place

 

[Pierre's PC]

I asked the players to have one for me. Looks like they did, good or them

 

[Slim Man]

Who was it? Name and Shame. Have you complained to the club? I'm sure that if you did then some sort of action would be taken. Nigel Adkins strikes me as a person who wouldn't take too kindly to this.

I'm not going to complain to the club, no way. And I'm not going to name them like has been done previous.
I was just asking for opinions on this, is it okay, isn't it, etc?

Leaves a sour taste in my mouth but it is each to their own after all.

 

[Slim Man]

Without going through 70 responses, can someone let me know how went from seeing a couple of players out drinking on Saturday to 'serious drinking culture at the club?'.

Thanks in advance.

Does going out every weekend constitute a drinking culture?
I'd say by today's measures it's pretty extreme how much our mob have been going out (its not just recently, we do have a pretty young group and haven done for a while, course they're going to want to go out and pull). It's not like the day's of Bassett, it's fine margins and in the days of sports science getting bladdered after a match can't help.

But then again, some might view it different. Each to their own.

I won't slag them to the high heavens and act all high and mighty, but you follow the example of the best in your sport if you want to be the best you can be - and it's fair to say the best in football aren't drinkers. Rio Ferdinand's article further up touches on that.

 

[robbiez666]

After you've done exercise the worst thing you can do is drink alcohol as it delays your muscles recovering (it has something to do with oxygen). Given the amount of injuries we have in the squad, it's not going to help either recovery or getting them in the first place.

 

[metty]

I'm not going to complain to the club, no way. And I'm not going to name them like has been done previous.
I was just asking for opinions on this, is it okay, isn't it, etc?

Leaves a sour taste in my mouth but it is each to their own after all.

Danny It's ok by me, I don't have a problem with players having a drink but if anyone who saw them feels strongly about it then they should let the club know.

 

[Slim Man]

Danny It's ok by me, I don't have a problem with players having a drink but if anyone who saw them feels strongly about it then they should let the club know.

Ah, I know mate.
Some probably will, I wasn't ecsatic about it having felt as low as a trolley in the canal after the match.

I just think it lacks professionalism as a sportsman. Others don't. That's fair enough.

 

[Jehovah]

I would prefer if they didn't drink as alcohol has detrimental effects on the body. I think it would be virtually impossible to impose sanctions though other than when they turn up Che Adamsed at training.

 

[DronnieBlade]

Few things to remember here.

These are young men mostly in their 20s. All will have good mates that are not footballers.

The one night in the week that they might have the opportunity to go out and do what other young men in their 20s do is Satdi night. Assuming the gaffer hasn't pulled them in for training Sunday !!!!

As long as players behave and don't go out wrecking the place up, stay in control, sober up completely by 1st thing Monday, where's the harm !!! ???

Probably more harm would come in wrapping them up in cotton wool waiting to go stir crazy.

UTB

 

[BushBlade]

It's about thirty years since Fergie transformed Man U from perennial underachievers to repeated champions and the first thing he did was to cut out the culture of heavy drinking. He told me this himself only last week, via the medium of TV.
I've no idea whether we have a drinking culture at the Lane but I find it hard to believe anyone is in favour of the players going out and getting lashed regularly, if indeed that's what they're doing.

I can't imagine that in twenty years we'll be hearing about Ronaldo having his transplanted kidney failing or Bale turning up at a hostage situation with some chicken and his fishing rods.

As supporters, we're very demanding but the only way the club is going to succeed is to throw away the 'second best' attitude some of our employees have and introduce a culture of excellence in everything we do. Getting hammered shouldn't be a part of that, cannot be a part of that.

 

[Bladepicker]

It is a difficult one as you want team spirit and you want a certain amount of bonding and letting the hair down as part of a team.

That said as athletes they should not be getting regularly pissed. One or two after the game then home early I think is alright. Out on the lash every Saturday until the early hours is unacceptable for people that are paid an excessive amount of money to be professional athletes.

I do not know if the United players go out boozing u til the early hours during the season, but if they do then they shouldn't in my opinion. Wait u til we win something or get promoted to go properly on the lash.