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Boxer Blade said:
Well I've been out in sheffield a few times and I've never, ever seen Messi or Ronaldo

although danny I may go to different boozers.
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Messi likes The Cavendish, as he can use his Yellow Card.*

*Disclaimer: I last went out down West Street probably 2005, so The Cavendish might not still be there.
 

Rodders said:
Messi likes The Cavendish, as he can use his Yellow Card.*

*Disclaimer: I last went out down West Street probably 2005, so The Cavendish might not still be there.
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It is and it always tends to get Messi when Im in :)
 
dannysufc_ said:
Whats everyone's views on this?

I saw a few of them out on saturday night, and we all know there are a few who frequent the clubs every week. What are peoples opinions on it?

Is it okay for a footballer to be going out in Sheffield after a 3rd home defeat of the season?
Are they allowed to or should they be at home?

I don't know whether it's me being boring, but they seem to be out an awful lot. I wouldn't mind just once or twice a season but there is a certain striker for example who is out every weekend.
I've never seen the pigs players out... I must admit. Well, the faces I know that is...

They have plenty of privileges, and for me staying off the drink shouldn't be too much to ask.
They are atheletes first and foremost, and supping whiskey on the rocks on a saturday (and tuesday...) isn't exactly good for them. You wouldn't see Messi or Ronaldo out doing it. If our lot aspired to be anything more than average football league players they'd do the same.
This team don't seem to care, you wouldn't see Warnock's lads out after a loss at home to Millwall. It's a horrible position we've got ourselves in.

If I'm wrong fair enough, it's just an opinion, but something knocks me a bit sick about the worst set of players in our recent history taking a fair wedge from the club out drinking when a training session on a sunday morning wouldn't be uncalled for.
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Might help - they can't play worse than they are at the moment!
 
robbiez666 said:
After you've done exercise the worst thing you can do is drink alcohol as it delays your muscles recovering (it has something to do with oxygen). Given the amount of injuries we have in the squad, it's not going to help either recovery or getting them in the first place.
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They were out on the Saturday night after the Millwall game so they should be ok. Likewise most Saturday nights really...
 
DI36O said:
I'm a live and let live kind of guy, but if they're serious they probably shouldn't be doing that, especially after a defeat at home.

I suppose there's an argument to say we're hardly competing at C. Ronaldo's level but we're not too hot at our own level either. If they take us up I'll gladly prop McNulty up while someone pours something tasty down his throat.

You might need some more substantial evidence than is on display in this thread to back up claims of a drinking culture though.

I'm reminded of this chap - bonus point to whoever guesses:

Sometimes his love of champagne and woman would cause him trouble with the board of directors.

"Luckily I lived near the stadium, and I managed to get there in a rush. My teammates and the coach looked at me disapprovingly. It was only five minutes before the kick-off, so I quickly changed and joined the team on the pitch. I could hear the directors saying: 'We'll deal with him after the match. We'll find out what he's been up to.' Luckily I scored a hat-trick so afterwards no one said a word!"

Incidents of the sort soon became common. In 19##, it was the day of the game against [rivals] at home with only an hour before the game and [he] had still not shown up. The directors became nervous and sent a masseuse and another trainer in a car to find him. They found him in bed, sleeping profoundly and snoring. Without even washing his face, they dragged him up and rushed him to the stadium. While lying down in the back seat [he] told them of love filled night and said he felt like a lion. The Lion entered the dressing room and without any squabbling, they quickly gave him his number 9 jersey. He scored two goals that game and was the best on the field. [His club] won the game 2–1 and beat [rivals] for the title by two points.
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Mick Jones?
 
robbiez666 said:
Given many of our performances this season, they should have all been in for training on the Sunday. Sunday can be set-piece day when they learn the secret magic of:

  • How to beat the first man when taking a corner
  • How to make a run to try and head a ball
  • How to head a ball towards a target
  • How to mark a man when they move away from you
  • How to stop an opponent getting a free header
  • How to track a run
  • How to catch
  • How to punch a ball properly through a crowd of players
  • How to avoid flapping at thin air
  • How to head a ball clear*

*this does not mean 8 yards to an opponent.
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Lot of work after a skin full robbie
 
Has anyone asked Jim on Twatter what he thinks of his fekless losers boozin after games (win or lose)?
 
Blade56 said:
Has anyone asked Jim on Twatter what he thinks of his fekless losers boozin after games (win or lose)?
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Surely it'll be more the job of Adkins than Phipps ? If Adkins has issues then I'm sure Jim would be there to offer support and guidance. Shite flows down, why would Jim get involved with a set of twats boozing after another loss ?
 
S12 Blade said:
Surely it'll be more the job of Adkins than Phipps ? If Adkins has issues then I'm sure Jim would be there to offer support and guidance. Shite flows down, why would Jim get involved with a set of twats boozing after another loss ?
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Purely because he is readily contactable with his open keyboard strategy. Apart from that I fully agree!
 
sitwell said:
Jimmy Greaves ?
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Hi sitwell I agree you you pretty often on here but your citing of Jimmy Greaves, an alcoholic who went tea total because the drink was killing him, George Best, who died directly because of alcohol, and Gazza whose relationship with alcohol has been detrimental to his fragile mental health and nearly killed him . . . Don't seem particularly good examples of how someone can enjoy a wee drinkie and still perform. (Unless that wasn't your point, in which case I'll take a "whoosh" and stfu)

For what it's worth I think young men will be young men and have periods where you go out and get trollied. I'd like to think that the impact of this would be explained regularly and clearly to a team of athletes and that in turn would lead to anyone wanting a career to realise not drinking to excess could either extend your career or take it to a higher level.
 
With no midweek game coming up it was probably the right time for a night out, but getting pissed to the level that has been described here sounds unprofessional. I think we should expect the same type of commitment and professionalism from our players as Premiership clubs expect from theirs.

One of my former coaches took over Brann half way through this season. He implemented several changes, and banning drinking during the season was one of them. Probably just a minor one, but one that was in line with what he expected from the players. He took them from mid table to promotion. I don't think it's necessary to be that strict, but footballers today need to realise the importance of being as fit as they can be.
 
Wapping Blade said:
It applies to any professional athlete
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Correct.
They live in a very different world to the joiners, mechanics, and admin workers of this world, we don't get paid thousands of pounds a week for running around with a football. They do.

They should do everything they can to keep themselves in top shape IMO. Going out every weekend doesn't help it.

Us mere mortals and professional sportsmen are completely incomparable.
 

Bergen Blade said:
With no midweek game coming up it was probably the right time for a night out, but getting pissed to the level that has been described here sounds unprofessional. I think we should expect the same type of commitment and professionalism from our players as Premiership clubs expect from theirs.

One of my former coaches took over Brann half way through this season. He implemented several changes, and banning drinking during the season was one of them. Probably just a minor one, but one that was in line with what he expected from the players. He took them from mid table to promotion. I don't think it's necessary to be that strict, but footballers today need to realise the importance of being as fit as they can be.
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Totally agree.
For me, it doesn't need to be that strict either, I don't think there should be a blanket ban on the whole squad, they should be able to control themselves. Go out every few months rather than every week for example.

You can have all the alcohol you want when the seasons finished, drink yourself into oblivion - just make sure you're ready to go 9 months with minimal drink. It's not too much to ask.

There are plenty of things you can do with your mates that don't involve drinking when you've got a few grand a week in your back pocket.
 
Duncan Ferguson is the only player who I have ever seen standing on a pub table conducting the community singing during his playing career.

He seemed to be a self-appointed one man outreach programme for Everton who are renowned for close links with said community.

This links straight into a conversation about the lately deceased Howard Kendall who was known for enjoying his drink - and by extension the problem of booze within football both for former players AND the supporters.

Its well known that football and booze combine to create a good deal of violence - witness events at Wembley v Hull.....no sorry, versus our own supporters.

Aye, even "real"-ale enthusiasts at the Rutland can be a pretty unattractive lot and I'm not just talking about them squeezing their ample physiques into nylon, kid's clothing as some of them like to do.

Booze is a much more general problem within football 'culture' than a couple of players trying to drown their sorrows after a bad game.
 
dannysufc_ said:
Whats everyone's views on this?
I saw a few of them out on saturday night, and we all know there are a few who frequent the clubs every week. What are peoples opinions on it?
Is it okay for a footballer to be going out in Sheffield after a 3rd home defeat of the season?
Are they allowed to or should they be at home?
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i think it is ok from a moral aspect.. but seriously?? you are asking for bother. i was a footballer i'd go out in a different city if i'd lost at home that weekend
 
barnyblade said:
I've never seen anything like it (and actually I really haven't seen it). Never have so many players been seen out drinking (but not by me), especially after incredibly poor results and performances (although we are 6th in the league only 5 points off automatic). It's a joke (that I continue to post on here).
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Wards said:
I really don't think it's too much to ask not to drink through the season. It's a short career - any player who thinks it's fine to go and get battered every week is insane as far as I'm concerned.
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You are asking 18-30 year old men to not have a drink for 9 months a year seriously. they would just binge and get into trouble in the summer and come to resent football , many would leave the game. This is speaking as a Dad of a 21 year old who has had two 6 month tours of Afghan and therefore a third of his drinking life without any. They just come back and get banjoed and unfortunately their life then becomes a drinking culture. Much better to have a life and a drink in moderation. If he had been Jose Baxter he would be on the dole now though.
 
sitwell said:
You are asking 18-30 year old men to not have a drink for 9 months a year seriously. they would just binge and get into trouble in the summer and come to resent football , many would leave the game. This is speaking as a Dad of a 21 year old who has had two 6 month tours of Afghan and therefore a third of his drinking life without any. They just come back and get banjoed and unfortunately their life then becomes a drinking culture. Much better to have a life and a drink in moderation. If he had been Jose Baxter he would be on the dole now though.
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It's about being sensible though isn't it? An athlete and someone in the forces doesn't really compare in my opinion...id definitely want a drink after coming back from that shithole :)

To me it seems there's far too many footballers who don't recognise the chance they've got and far too willing piss it up the wall. Not suggesting they live like hermits for 9 months but is it really too much to ask that they don't go get spangled in the middle of town on a Saturday night?

I think it's far more a indicator of the drinking problem in this country than anything else. I can't imagine players in Spain, Italy etc going out smashing the town every week. Even track and field athletes in this country are prepared to make that sacrifice.
 
Wards said:
It's about being sensible though isn't it? An athlete and someone in the forces doesn't really compare in my opinion...id definitely want a drink after coming back from that shithole :)

To me it seems there's far too many footballers who don't recognise the chance they've got and far too willing piss it up the wall. Not suggesting they live like hermits for 9 months but is it really too much to ask that they don't go get spangled in the middle of town on a Saturday night?

I think it's far more a indicator of the drinking problem in this country than anything else. I can't imagine players in Spain, Italy etc going out smashing the town every week. Even track and field athletes in this country are prepared to make that sacrifice.
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But we are in this country. Its easy for us older people to look at it the way you are but weve had our turn ,from leaving school to 30 year old are fantastic years and to take it away is expecting too much. That is the time when they want to be out socialising taking advantage of their status ,but I agree they should be sensible ,however 2 days before the next training session and 7 days before the next game ,surely we should give em some rope.
 
vorpal blade said:
Duncan Ferguson is the only player who I have ever seen standing on a pub table conducting the community singing during his playing career.
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I was lucky enough to see Johnny Gannon up on the tables in the Big Tree, Woodseats 21 years ago, after this game:



Such commitment and athletic running from boys in red and white actually makes me feel sad.
 

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