Paul Heckingbottom

[s4-blade]

Would be a big step up for our youth set up having an experienced first team manager heading it up

 

[LoughboroBlade]

Would be a big step up for our youth set up having an experienced first team manager heading it up

Would it? I’d rather just have a really good youth coach that can help develop the players into first team players. I don’t think first team managerial experience is wholly necessary for that job. Kevin Blackwell is an experienced first team manager – if we appointed him to look after our youth set-up it would be anything but a step up. That’s not to say Heckingbottom is a bad choice, just that his first team experience should be secondary to experience developing young players.

 

[Bladesman]

Would be a big step up for our youth set up having an experienced first team manager heading it up

Steaming!

 

[Chabuddy G]

Would it? I’d rather just have a really good youth coach that can help develop the players into first team players. I don’t think first team managerial experience is wholly necessary for that job. Kevin Blackwell is an experienced first team manager – if we appointed him to look after our youth set-up it would be anything but a step up. That’s not to say Heckingbottom is a bad choice, just that his first team experience should be secondary to experience developing young players.

But his experience developing young players certainly is necessary for that job, and he has that in adbundance.

 

[CentralQuay]

Would it? I’d rather just have a really good youth coach that can help develop the players into first team players. I don’t think first team managerial experience is wholly necessary for that job. Kevin Blackwell is an experienced first team manager – if we appointed him to look after our youth set-up it would be anything but a step up. That’s not to say Heckingbottom is a bad choice, just that his first team experience should be secondary to experience developing young players.

Isn't that what he was doing at Barnsley, and then Leeds before Bielsa replaced him?

 

[Ricky]

Get him working with the first team too, as an attacking coach.... has to be worth a go.

 

[LoughboroBlade]

But his experience developing young players certainly is necessary for that job, and he has that in adbundance.

Isn't that what he was doing at Barnsley, and then Leeds before Bielsa replaced him?

The point was about how the first team experience aspect shouldn’t be a big factor. My point was we should be saying whoever is appointed, be that Heckingbottom or whoever: “it’s a real coup getting someone in that has a great record developing young players”. You can probably apply that to Heckingbottom, so that’s the important thing in this.

I hope if he’s appointed he does well, but we really need some stability in the Academy to develop a long term project. My only concern about Heckingbottom is that if he’s any good he may still be drawn away by first team ambitions.

 

[CentralQuay]

The point was about how the first team experience aspect shouldn’t be a big factor. My point was we should be saying whoever is appointed, be that Heckingbottom or whoever: “it’s a real coup getting someone in that has a great record developing young players”. You can probably apply that to Heckingbottom, so that’s the important thing in this.

I hope if he’s appointed he does well, but we really need some stability in the Academy to develop a long term project. My only concern about Heckingbottom is that if he’s any good he may still be drawn away by first team ambitions.

The club needs to set that project in place regardless of who the coach is.

 

[BushBlade]

The point was about how the first team experience aspect shouldn’t be a big factor. My point was we should be saying whoever is appointed, be that Heckingbottom or whoever: “it’s a real coup getting someone in that has a great record developing young players”. You can probably apply that to Heckingbottom, so that’s the important thing in this.

I hope if he’s appointed he does well, but we really need some stability in the Academy to develop a long term project. My only concern about Heckingbottom is that if he’s any good he may still be drawn away by first team ambitions.

If he joins us, I think he’ll be a Knill type; had a go at first team management, decided it wasn’t for him and goes back into what he loves doing, coaching.

 

[bromtom]

Let's get him a new academy to work in while we're at it.

 

[Harry's Game]

 

[Heffernans tache]

Get him working with the first team too, as an attacking coach.... has to be worth a go.

Lost faith in Wilder have we?

 

[BigBed]

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Rex

 

[metalblade]

Is that the bloke who signed a new contract with the dingles and left for Leeds in the same week?

 

[Silent Blade]

What does this mean for Jack Lester?

Ball_Sup (Phil) , you excited with Heckingbottom coming to us?

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

What does this mean for Jack Lester?

Ball_Sup (Phil) , you excited with Heckingbottom coming to us?

My understanding is that he will be working under Lester. In the same way as Del Geary works under Lester. I've no idea why Andrew Hughes has left (a while ago now). Given he was recruited into the U23 role around a year ago. I'll stand to be corrected, but I think the objectives of the Academy are clear - produce players. But, HOW. Not a great deal has been said about the strategy since Binnion left. I can say with some confidence - I'll be amazed if any coach/head of Academy makes it as enjoyable as it all was under Travis. So, in that sense - not excited. My views are an acquired taste - I just want to enjoy the Academy. Watching Trav work with Dom & Brooksy and others was v enlightening & a joy. But, times change. It's all a bit revolving doors at Shirecliffe at the mo'. ICYMI, Leeds, Palace & Burnley are all being audited for their proposed elevation to Category 1 Academy status. (We're anchored at Cat 2)

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

He'll come here if Wilder wants him, if he doesn't, he won't.

 

[8lade]

I'm disappointed he isn't black.

 

[United Aren't Back.]

Would be a big step up for our youth set up having an experienced first team manager heading it up

Senior steams.
What's causing all that steam?
A kettle.

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

He'll come here if Wilder wants him, if he doesn't, he won't.

Is this what we've become - a cult?

 

[dublin 10 blade]

I'm disappointed he isn't black.

I’m disappointed it’s not Alex Scott , now that would get the young uns going

 

[dublin 10 blade]

Is this what we've become - a cult?

I think it was meant as a backhanded compliment Phil ,
Cunts sorry Cults are up S6 way

 

[Paisley Blade]

I'm disappointed he isn't black.

Allow yourself some time off.

 

[Paisley Blade]

Plus side - Barnsley fans calling him ' Ecky ' and really liking him.

Down side - Telling my Hibs mates he would be great for them.

Verdict - C'est la vie x

 

[8lade]

Allow yourself some time off.

 

[robbiez666]

Isn't that what he was doing at Barnsley, and then Leeds before Bielsa replaced him?

So Barnsley could get more compensation, yes.

He is a great addition to the club.

 

[Rodley]

My understanding is that he will be working under Lester. In the same way as Del Geary works under Lester. I've no idea why Andrew Hughes has left (a while ago now). Given he was recruited into the U23 role around a year ago. I'll stand to be corrected, but I think the objectives of the Academy are clear - produce players. But, HOW. Not a great deal has been said about the strategy since Binnion left. I can say with some confidence - I'll be amazed if any coach/head of Academy makes it as enjoyable as it all was under Travis. So, in that sense - not excited. My views are an acquired taste - I just want to enjoy the Academy. Watching Trav work with Dom & Brooksy and others was v enlightening & a joy. But, times change. It's all a bit revolving doors at Shirecliffe at the mo'. ICYMI, Leeds, Palace & Burnley are all being audited for their proposed elevation to Category 1 Academy status. (We're anchored at Cat 2)

We need Cat 1. Ludicrous that Leeds could be nicking our best youngsters.

 

[Ball_Sup (Phil)]

We need Cat 1. Ludicrous that Leeds could be nicking our best youngsters.

I remain relaxed about our Category. It's very very difficult to get a youngster, any youngster into a PL Squad. They have to be outstanding. I think we can attract youngsters on the basis of Ramsdale, Dom, Brooks recent track record & our Premier League status. My simple view is I'm not convinced Cat 1 is worth the effort for a club like ours. And, I know people disagree with that. And I'm not digging in. It's OK to disagree.

 

[Bruce Wayne]

Bit of a comedown for him, will he be motivated?

 

[Heffernans tache]

I remain relaxed about our Category. It's very very difficult to get a youngster, any youngster into a PL Squad. They have to be outstanding. I think we can attract youngsters on the basis of Ramsdale, Dom, Brooks recent track record & our Premier League status. My simple view is I'm not convinced Cat 1 is worth the effort for a club like ours. And, I know people disagree with that. And I'm not digging in. It's OK to disagree.

I'm new on here Phil, tip toeing my way onto the scene and working out who's who.
You seem to be the Academy Guru, an all knowing presence standing at Shirecliffe in all weathers

Is there any player who stands out?, who could push towards the first team next season?
I have limited knowledge to say the least!