Old Photos For No Reason Whatsoever

[Eddiecolquhounsleg]

I've just noticed that socks were referred to as stockings as well. Was this game some sort of vicars and tarts charity match?

 

[I should coco]

The 'look at me ' SYT mainline colours in a desperate attempt to keep the punters. On the LHS, one of their 'Eager Beavers' that ran every 5 minutes on the 52 route (Crookes to Woodhouse).
They quickly got nicknamed bread vans. Too small to get on and off, too rattly and a poor idea executed even more badly. The rate paying public never knew the half of it...

 

[ghandi]

The 'look at me ' SYT mainline colours in a desperate attempt to keep the punters. On the LHS, one of their 'Eager Beavers' that ran every 5 minutes on the 52 route (Crookes to Woodhouse).
They quickly got nicknamed bread vans. Too small to get on and off, too rattly and a poor idea executed even more badly. The rate paying public never knew the half of it...

Travelled to Portsmouth for a midweek match with Shred (RIP) and due to low numbers it was an ancient Eager Beaver, probably one of the most uncomfortable trips with Shred ever undertaken not that there were many comfortable ones

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

I notice the shorts are referred to as 'knickers', probably short for knickerbockers, but that is not a term I have ever heard of being related to football shorts. Everyday is a school day on S2 4SU.

As late as 1958, ‘knickers’ was still the word used in the United programme. I was 11 by then, and had never heard the word used in ordinary speech other than to refer to ladies’ unmentionables. It’s use in the programme provoked the odd smutty comment, but I have no idea why they continued to use it so long.

 

[Alf Tuppers Shorts]

I notice the shorts are referred to as 'knickers', probably short for knickerbockers, but that is not a term I have ever heard of being related to football shorts. Everyday is a school day on S2 4SU.

You never met mi mam then. She Always called em knickers; as she would say;” thas orless got muckiest football knickers ont pitch; al niver gerem cleanne; al evta boil em”. Always in her best Mexborough accent. of course.

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

You never met mi mam then. She Always called em knickers; as she would say;” thas orless got muckiest football knickers ont pitch; al niver gerem cleanne; al evta boil em”. Always in her best Mexborough accent. of course.

Perhaps you need to become ‘Alf Tuppers Knickers’

 

[Big Hitter]

I notice the shorts are referred to as 'knickers', probably short for knickerbockers, but that is not a term I have ever heard of being related to football shorts. Everyday is a school day on S2 4SU.

Yes I have a Book from 1952 ( Stanley Matthews Football Album) which gives all teams colours and that refers to Knickers rather than shorts.!

 

[Greenwich Blade]

As late as 1958, ‘knickers’ was still the word used in the United programme. I was 11 by then, and had never heard the word used in ordinary speech other than to refer to ladies’ unmentionables. It’s use in the programme provoked the odd smutty comment, but I have no idea why they continued to use it so long.
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This would never have been as funny if they'd referred to them as "knickers".

 

[XM657]

I notice the shorts are referred to as 'knickers', probably short for knickerbockers, but that is not a term I have ever heard of being related to football shorts. Everyday is a school day on S2 4SU.

No need to flaunt your "youngness" about like it lasts forever. Let me tell you it's transient.

 

[Isaw Joeshaw]

As late as 1958, ‘knickers’ was still the word used in the United programme. I was 11 by then, and had never heard the word used in ordinary speech other than to refer to ladies’ unmentionables. It’s use in the programme provoked the odd smutty comment, but I have no idea why they continued to use it so long.
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Hawksworth inside left and Hodgson on the wing ?

 

[XM657]

Wathamstow Avenue. Won Amateur Cup, played against Arsenal in FA Cup. Both in 1952

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Bloody hell SB, they must have been good, won the A. cup with ten players. What a strange photo.

 

[XM657]

Hawksworth inside left and Hodgson on the wing ?

Derek Marshall Hawksworth, was like the proverbial off a shovel early to mid 50's. Also played at number 9 with a degree of success.
Mentioned before at some point on here, the consensus, on the terrace where we stood, was he appeared to perform slightly better on the cricket side as against the John St. side. Inference presumably being the crowd got to him.
One of my first memorable team.

 

[XM657]

I see the Refs from Walthamstow also, bit much considering Walthamstow is the neighbouring district to Tottenham dont you think ?

One of the linesmen is a Mr E. Drake, could it be the goal scorer in the 1936 FA Cup Final?
Also where is E9?

 

[Silent Blade]

One of the linesmen is a Mr E. Drake, could it be the goal scorer in the 1936 FA Cup Final?

Managing Reading at the time

 

[XM657]

The 'look at me ' SYT mainline colours in a desperate attempt to keep the punters. On the LHS, one of their 'Eager Beavers' that ran every 5 minutes on the 52 route (Crookes to Woodhouse).
They quickly got nicknamed bread vans. Too small to get on and off, too rattly and a poor idea executed even more badly. The rate paying public never knew the half of it...

I always thought the red was added because it was a Labour run council

Managing Reading at the time

Small world eh! Ta.

 

[Isaw Joeshaw]

Derek Marshall Hawksworth, was like the proverbial off a shovel early to mid 50's. Also played at number 9 with a degree of success.
Mentioned before at some point on here, the consensus, on the terrace where we stood, was he appeared to perform slightly better on the cricket side as against the John St. side. Inference presumably being the crowd got to him.
One of my first memorable team.

All that is true but I find it hard to believe that we would line up with him , being a natural winger , at inside forward and with Billy H , a natural inside forward in his role .

It is certainly something I never remember happening and I think it’s a misprint .

 

[XM657]

All that is true but I find it hard to believe that we would line up with him , being a natural winger , at inside forward and with Billy H , a natural inside forward in his role .

It is certainly something I never remember happening and I think it’s a misprint .

I see your point, possible slip between club and printers, new secretary with no football knowledge or some impish individual at the printers who supported the dark side.
What ever, I am happy with the team selection and in the Who's Who book it put him playing in all the forward line positions.
In '57-'58 your left sided attack, Billy no.11 and Derek no.10 occurred on six consecutive occasions, between Christmas day and Feb 1st.
The answer to your conundrum, I believe, is the manager of the time Joe Mercer. I rest my case.
Derek played his last game for the Blades April 26 1958 away V Layton Orient 0-1 win, Russell.
I'll remember that date, mums birthday and the year I left school.

 

[Canterbury Blade]

High Street, Oct 1991
Just starting putting the lights up...

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Ah!! buses and the High st. Memories of the 0130 or was it 0200 last buses.

Scenes of last minute gropes with promises of I’ll call you with phone numbers left on fag packets. The whistle blowing so all the buses left at the same time. Coppers and lads giving it large in the queue. Cost of 30p a trip on the night bus home until the mid 80’s.

Frustration at missing the bus and knowing that walk home is so long no matter how much Wards fortification you’ve taken on board.

Dunno about you lot but if I ever pulled it was always a cab and never the bus (better get her to the lair quick before she changes her mind tactics), plus I didn’t really want the risk of some of my ‘conquests’ meeting my mates on the last bus..

Strange how a photo of different times makes you remember things from your distant past. Keep em coming Andingman please, even the seemingly mundane ones bring memory inspiration to a middle aged Blade!

 

[Big Hitter]

As late as 1958, ‘knickers’ was still the word used in the United programme. I was 11 by then, and had never heard the word used in ordinary speech other than to refer to ladies’ unmentionables. It’s use in the programme provoked the odd smutty comment, but I have no idea why they continued to use it so long.
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Was that a Cup Match.?

 

[Big Hitter]

All that is true but I find it hard to believe that we would line up with him , being a natural winger , at inside forward and with Billy H , a natural inside forward in his role .

It is certainly something I never remember happening and I think it’s a misprint .

My abiding memory of Derek Hawksworth was in a game against Tottenham at BDBL in 52 or 53, we won 5-2 I think and one Derek Hawksworth at no. 11 turned the Spurs full back inside out several times. The full back?.... Oh his name was Ramsay, Alf I think.........

 

[Eddiecolquhounsleg]

Ah!! buses and the High st. Memories of the 0130 or was it 0200 last buses.

Scenes of last minute gropes with promises of I’ll call you with phone numbers left on fag packets. The whistle blowing so all the buses left at the same time. Coppers and lads giving it large in the queue. Cost of 30p a trip on the night bus home until the mid 80’s.

Frustration at missing the bus and knowing that walk home is so long no matter how much Wards fortification you’ve taken on board.

Dunno about you lot but if I ever pulled it was always a cab and never the bus (better get her to the lair quick before she changes her mind tactics), plus I didn’t really want the risk of some of my ‘conquests’ meeting my mates on the last bus..

Strange how a photo of different times makes you remember things from your distant past. Keep em coming Andingman please, even the seemingly mundane ones bring memory inspiration to a middle aged Blade!

Like this.

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

Hawksworth inside left and Hodgson on the wing ?

As XM657 has said, it was the lineup for several games (much to my surprise). It seems to have resulted from signing Pace. If you follow the programmes below, you will see (I hope) my arrows indicating the positional change from centre-forward for Hawksworth. By the time of the Doncaster game, Hawksworth and Hodgson had swapped places. Total football?

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

Was that a Cup Match.?

Yes. Drew 1-1 at home in round 5, lost 4-1 in the replay.

 

[XM657]

Was that a Cup Match.?

Yes, 5thR 15 Feb '58, 1-1 draw as shown. Lost replay at the Hawthorns, 4-1, surprisingly HT 0-0. Blades an OG Dudley.
Wonder if he was from Dudley like 'Big' Duncan?

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

My abiding memory of Derek Hawksworth was in a game against Tottenham at BDBL in 52 or 53, we won 5-2 I think and one Derek Hawksworth at no. 11 turned the Spurs full back inside out several times. The full back?.... Oh his name was Ramsay, Alf I think.........

It was November 1953. I don’t appear to have the programme. Some time ago I asked if anyone could confirm a memory from that game (I was only 6 at the time). I believe I remember Hagan going down the left-wing Towards the Kop, Ramsey going to trip him, and Hagan hurdling the tackle and stamping on his shin, breaking Ramsey’s leg with a noise that could clearly be heard. I can’t find any reference to it, and suspect it might be a total invention on my part. Do you recall any such incident?

 

[Big Hitter]

It was November 1953. I don’t appear to have the programme. Some time ago I asked if anyone could confirm a memory from that game (I was only 6 at the time). I believe I remember Hagan going down the left-wing Towards the Kop, Ramsey going to trip him, and Hagan hurdling the tackle and stamping on his shin, breaking Ramsey’s leg with a noise that could clearly be heard. I can’t find any reference to it, and suspect it might be a total invention on my part. Do you recall any such incident?

Hi Hodgy, no I don't remember that incident, I do remember a match v Huddersfield about the same time when one of their players did break a leg and Hagan was involved somehow. No--- found that in Clarebrough's book. That was 1949, before your time I think.!

 

[Silent Blade]

As XM657 has said, it was the lineup for several games (much to my surprise). It seems to have resulted from signing Pace. If you follow the programmes below, you will see (I hope) my arrows indicating the positional change from centre-forward for Hawksworth. By the time of the Doncaster game, Hawksworth and Hodgson had swapped places. Total football?
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I remember my dad telling me that Pace was signed on Xmas Eve but the papers on Boxing Day didnt report it. Many spectators in the ground were asking each other "who is our number 9?"

 

[HodgysBrokenThumb]

Hi Hodgy, no I don't remember that incident, I do remember a match v Huddersfield about the same time when one of their players did break a leg and Hagan was involved somehow. No--- found that in Clarebrough's book. That was 1949, before your time I think.!

I suspect I was told that story by someone, and over the years imagined I saw it. I certainly wasn’t there in 1949. Thanks for the reply.

 

[Trigger Blade]

My abiding memory of Derek Hawksworth was in a game against Tottenham at BDBL in 52 or 53, we won 5-2 I think and one Derek Hawksworth at no. 11 turned the Spurs full back inside out several times. The full back?.... Oh his name was Ramsay, Alf I think.........

I think it was Michael Parkinson who once had the theory that Alf Ramsey’s deep mistrust of wingers went back to one day when he played against a bandy winger at Barnsley who turned him inside out for a full 90 minutes. He swore that day to do whatever it took to eradicate them, which he did with his Wingless Wonders. Parky makes the huge leap to claim that England’s 1966 World Cup win was all down to Alf being skinned at Oakwell.

Change the team and player to Derek Hawksworth and The Blades and I’d buy into that.

 

[Big Hitter]

I think it was Michael Parkinson who once had the theory that Alf Ramsey’s deep mistrust of wingers went back to one day when he played against a bandy winger at Barnsley who turned him inside out for a full 90 minutes. He swore that day to do whatever it took to eradicate them, which he did with his Wingless Wonders. Parky makes the huge leap to claim that England’s 1966 World Cup win was all down to Alf being skinned at Oakwell.

Change the team and player to Derek Hawksworth and The Blades and I’d buy into that.

Deep in the recessess of my admittedly rusty brain I do have a recollection of a very good left winger playing at Barnsley in the 50's. Was it Steel, John.? Maybe Silent knows.