Old Photos For No Reason Whatsoever

[singaporeblade]

Somehow you managed to make that above look like I posted the bit about the Doctors

Don't recall a doctors on Chapman St, the main one was bottom of Newman Rd.

Yeah shops on every corner and in between, Firth Park, Attercliffe or town otherwise.

The detached building on Chapman Street is still there but boarded up....his other surgeries were on Wincobank Avenue & Jenkin Road

 

[BornOnShorehamStreet]

We shouldn’t have lost that one. Reece missed a sitter and they scored late in the game. On the way home near Newmillerdam we were overtaken by a van packed full of Blades with its side and back doors open. It went on two wheels around the corner. Any one on here ?

And Colin Addison hit the woodwork I think. I'm sure it hit the inside of the post as well

 

[kenworthy]

The detached building on Chapman Street is still there but boarded up....his other surgeries were on Wincobank Avenue & Jenkin Road

I went to chapman street surgery up until new one was built.old building is lived in now by foreigners working on it very slowly

 

[Mad Mick]

Spot on Mick. However the majority in the late seventies thought wearing a check Ben Sherman and a harrington made them look like original mods. Far from it.

You posted a fabulous photo - l assumed it was you - on the flats, looked like the circle outside the Parkway Hotel, which showed the fashion at the time. Something the pretenders would never recognise. Do you know which one I mean?

Yes Sean I think so. It's the one showing them playing football and we think it's Pete Duce looking into the camera. Where did you see it?

 

[Sean Thornton]

Yes Sean I think so. It's the one showing them playing football and we think it's Pete Duce looking into the camera. Where did you see it?

Was that Pete Duce?

On here.

 

[Wapping Blade]

Just the normal council vandalism. Now Abbey House - usual brutalist architecture and 'All Bar One' is the place on the corner of Leopold Street/Orchard Street. The Museum still survives but (I think) there was a Three Tuns further down Orchard Street.

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The Museum there now is not The Museum, our go to town pub in the early 80s.

 

[Sean Thornton]

Just the normal council vandalism. Now Abbey House - usual brutalist architecture and 'All Bar One' is the place on the corner of Leopold Street/Orchard Street. The Museum still survives but (I think) there was a Three Tuns further down Orchard Street.

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The Three Tuns was on Leoplod Street towards Fargate. John Smiths House.

 

[Mad Mick]

Was that Pete Duce?

On here.

Some of the Park Lads think it might be. Is this the photo you meant?

 

[HighfieldBlade]

 

[HighfieldBlade]

 

[Silent Blade]

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Blades 0 Norwich 0 in April 3rd 1971. Norwich were unlucky not to win and had a "good goal" disallowed. John Hope was man of the match.

 

[Rufus Smalls]

Forged in Steel ..........

 

[HighfieldBlade]

 

[Numpty's Dusty Ruts.]

Problem was, in the 60s, everyone thought the old city centre buildings were scruffy slum type places only fit for demolition. Only now can we see how wrong we were.

My dad, born 1929, shuffled off well before his time in 1985, was a great "modernist ". He was born in a slum on Albert Terrace Road and was fortunate to move to comparatively leafy Victor Street in S6 (sorry) when he was about 6. He loved the clean lines of post war buildings and hated "Victorian Gothic ". He loved the Hole in the Road and the "wedding cake" and thought that Arundel Gate with it's underpasses and pedestrian walkways was great. He even liked the "Eggbox"! I think he was a child of his time who had some grim memories of the 30's and the war, and the real filth, squalor and poverty of Sheffield then. He had memories of sputtering gas lights and as a consequence we always had "big light on" at home ( or "big leet" if he wanted to wind up my mum). He didn't like hand pulled beer either as it was "allus off" and was a big fan of keg (not lager though, he didn't go that far!). Looking at some of the buildings that went, we can see that we were wrong, but people like my dad, who lived through what went before, were right as well. I remember (increasingly vaguely) Sheffield changing from a mucky and crumbling bomb site to "Hole in the Road Land", and it was great at the time. Leeds remained a shithole long after Sheffield became "city on the move", and it's weird how the tables have turned in 40 years. I love looking at the old pics on here and on Picture Sheffield but I do have happy memories of Sheffield being something of a concrete paradise!! Oh, and my dad didn't like steam trains either - they were mucky and he'd have banned preserved railways!

 

[corkysbeard]

I lived on Bard St.....were you in that area?

I lived on crown place more or less bard street.

 

[corkysbeard]

Some of the Park Lads think it might be. Is this the photo you meant?
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Is that the court across from the parkway?

 

[grafikhaus]

Leeds remained a shithole long after Sheffield became "city on the move", and it's weird how the tables have turned in 40 years.

Not weird - entirely down to the likes of Betts, Blunkett, Ashton, Hattersley et al. While our lot were busy turning Sheffield into a 'Nuclear-Free Zone', Leeds made sure they attracted financial services, Look North and Calendar and associated 'leisure' industries. While we had 'The Hole in the Road' - connecting a grim area to an even grimmer area - Leeds made sure they were at the heart of the motorway network - something that is still the case. Our one attempt at a city-centre underpass (Arundel Gate) was a joke, we should have built one on the Bramall Lane/St. Mary's/inner ring road junction, but that would have entailed making Bramall Lane into a dual carriageway with a tram running down the middle. And party/Wednesday politics wouldn't have allowed that (and it wouldn't have given Radio Sheffield something to blather about on 'Jammy Dodgers'...). Plus only a maniac would use a pedestrian underpass after dark in the city centre nowadays.

While I appreciate your dad's sentiments, he was the 'wartime generation' where cities in Germany largely had no choice but to replace bombed-out building with 'brutalist' stuff, here our lot largely destroyed fine old undamaged buildings. Buildings on Fargate/Surrey Street have been undergoing extensive/expensive remedial works on the façades of many old structures and it proves that the old can sit with the new.

As someone has said, Leopold Street provides a stark example of the two approaches. The old 'Education buildings' (now Leopold Square) is a fine example of sympatheric treatment - right down to the new bronze benches containing castings of old school reports they found in the old building.



While a lot of the other side is a mess. The old, much-loved Stonehouse had to go for the modern, clean Orchard Square. But that's an exception. Where somebody sat down and actually thought about the long-term impact.

 

[Charlieblade]

My dad, born 1929, shuffled off well before his time in 1985, was a great "modernist ". He was born in a slum on Albert Terrace Road and was fortunate to move to comparatively leafy Victor Street in S6 (sorry) when he was about 6. He loved the clean lines of post war buildings and hated "Victorian Gothic ". He loved the Hole in the Road and the "wedding cake" and thought that Arundel Gate with it's underpasses and pedestrian walkways was great. He even liked the "Eggbox"! I think he was a child of his time who had some grim memories of the 30's and the war, and the real filth, squalor and poverty of Sheffield then. He had memories of sputtering gas lights and as a consequence we always had "big light on" at home ( or "big leet" if he wanted to wind up my mum). He didn't like hand pulled beer either as it was "allus off" and was a big fan of keg (not lager though, he didn't go that far!). Looking at some of the buildings that went, we can see that we were wrong, but people like my dad, who lived through what went before, were right as well. I remember (increasingly vaguely) Sheffield changing from a mucky and crumbling bomb site to "Hole in the Road Land", and it was great at the time. Leeds remained a shithole long after Sheffield became "city on the move", and it's weird how the tables have turned in 40 years. I love looking at the old pics on here and on Picture Sheffield but I do have happy memories of Sheffield being something of a concrete paradise!! Oh, and my dad didn't like steam trains either - they were mucky and he'd have banned preserved railways!

I can appreciate some of your Dads feelings, especially about beer and housing. We disagree on steam trains though.

Last time i took notice of the changes in the city was on the seven weirs walk from Ladybridge to meadowhall, about 12 yeas ago. Seeing fish and herons, plus fig trees growing on the riverbank was quite a revelation.
The fig stones from steelworkers snap, took root and the hot water from steel making created perfect conditions for fig trees. That's proper social environment evidence right there.

 

[Bert]

 

[Bert]

 

[Cerberus Blade]

Blades 0 Norwich 0 in April 3rd 1971. Norwich were unlucky not to win and had a "good goal" disallowed. John Hope was man of the match.

and that photo was on the front cover of the programme, "Lane Line Up" and features David Ford. An ex-Wednesday player that we signed from Newcastle, who frankly didn't add very much to that early 1970's team. My recollection of him was that he must have been a keen cricket fan because every time he got the ball he seemed to run out towards the old cricket pavilion with it. Fans used to shout, "Where TF he going with it nar?". Anyhow, he went on to become one of the finest central heating engineers this city has ever known.

 

[Cerberus Blade]

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Stewart Scullion of Sheffield United watches on in admiration as an opposing player balances the ball on the end of his nob.

(Is it Arsenal or Norwich or Brazil we were playing?)

 

[HighfieldBlade]

(Is it Arsenal or Norwich or Brazil we were playing?)

Blades 0 WBA 0, August 1971.

 

[sitwell]

Blades 0 WBA 0, August 1971.

First dropped point wasn't it ?

Harris out and Dearden is wank would be the all on shoutbox.

 

[Cerberus Blade]

My dad, born 1929, shuffled off well before his time in 1985, was a great "modernist ". He was born in a slum on Albert Terrace Road and was fortunate to move to comparatively leafy Victor Street in S6 (sorry) when he was about 6. He loved the clean lines of post war buildings and hated "Victorian Gothic ". He loved the Hole in the Road and the "wedding cake" and thought that Arundel Gate with it's underpasses and pedestrian walkways was great. He even liked the "Eggbox"! I think he was a child of his time who had some grim memories of the 30's and the war, and the real filth, squalor and poverty of Sheffield then. He had memories of sputtering gas lights and as a consequence we always had "big light on" at home ( or "big leet" if he wanted to wind up my mum). He didn't like hand pulled beer either as it was "allus off" and was a big fan of keg (not lager though, he didn't go that far!). Looking at some of the buildings that went, we can see that we were wrong, but people like my dad, who lived through what went before, were right as well. I remember (increasingly vaguely) Sheffield changing from a mucky and crumbling bomb site to "Hole in the Road Land", and it was great at the time. Leeds remained a shithole long after Sheffield became "city on the move", and it's weird how the tables have turned in 40 years. I love looking at the old pics on here and on Picture Sheffield but I do have happy memories of Sheffield being something of a concrete paradise!! Oh, and my dad didn't like steam trains either - they were mucky and he'd have banned preserved railways!

That's the first time I've heard anyone give any sort of rationale as to why Sheffield developed as it did and I really enjoyed reading that - thank you. I am just about old enough to remember it as a mucky city in the early to mid 1960's. By the time I reached teenage years though we had all this modern stuff, like "hole in't road" (with the fish tank of course) and escalators in the street! And Sheffield did have a modern, progressive vibe to it.

I thought it was great as a teenager and it's only in later years that I began to feel that it was dying off and falling behind other cities. When I started work in the early 1970's the city had about half a dozen big department stores, Robert Brothers, Schofield's, Paulden's (later Debenhams), John Walsh (later "Rackhams then "House of Fraser"), Atkinson's and Cole Brothers. The Castle Market end of town was buzzing with shoppers. My mother never liked Sheffield for shopping because she said it was "too spread out" - citing the distance for example from the Castle Market to the end of the Moor. Well, that little problem has solved itself over the years as the Castle Market area has died and fallen off like a necrotic limb and the city centre has moved to Barker's Pool.

I didn't like the "eggbox" and a lot of the modernist culture that followed, but I can understand your old fella's perspective on this if he'd lived through the grimy past - it must have been like someone opening the curtains and letting the sunshine in.

I spent quite a lot of time in and around Leeds during the summer holidays, in the late 60's and early 70's. I agree with you that Sheffield appeared to have stolen a march on Leeds back then with it's progressive, modernist culture. Leeds had one obvious advantage though - the airport at Yeadon - which has been one very good reason why the city has benefited from attracting commerce. The thing that has held Sheffield back more than anything though is the negative, parochial outlook towards business and commerce, of those in charge of such things. It has improved a bit over the years, but it's still a problem. Meanwhile, Leeds has continued to attract commercial investment and it's miles in front of Sheffield in terms of its city centre and the sheer range of places to shop and eat.

I like a lot of the new stuff that is happening in Sheffield though. I like what they've done in the Devonshire quarter, the cheesegrater, the Winter Gardens and that whole area around St Paul's Hotel is really great. I'll hold my breath on the new "shopping area". It's definitely an improvement but I don't see the city attracting big flagship retailers and I think that area will just end up being filled with your usual chain stores. What I don't celebrate is the latest tower block of flats, apartments or offices, or the latest out of town shopping centre, one of the reasons why life has been sapped from the city centre in the first place.

I think Sheffield has lost a lot of ground over the years on similar sized cities. But it's still a wonderful place to live, if you can afford to live in a nice area. And the thing that has held Sheffield back most, i.e. the parochial nature of the people, is one its charms!

 

[bornablade]

and that photo was on the front cover of the programme, "Lane Line Up" and features David Ford. An ex-Wednesday player that we signed from Newcastle, who frankly didn't add very much to that early 1970's team. My recollection of him was that he must have been a keen cricket fan because every time he got the ball he seemed to run out towards the old cricket pavilion with it. Fans used to shout, "Where TF he going with it nar?". Anyhow, he went on to become one of the finest central heating engineers this city has ever known.

......and I think was co-owner of the original Champs with Dave Wickett on Ecclesall Road.

 

[BadgersBigToe]

I lived on crown place more or less bard street.

That was off School Street wasn’t it?

 

[Mad Mick]

Is that the court across from the parkway?

Yes, it's the nets we played football in.

 

[HighfieldBlade]

Now that's what I call an open-top bus (Blades 1899)

 

[Bert]

Now that's what I call an open-top bus (Blades 1899)
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