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[wadblade]

We are all in this together = Tottenham are reducing the salaries of non-playing staff by 20 per cent as a result of the coronavirus pandemic – as it emerged chairman Daniel Levy at the same time has just received a £3m bonus for delivering the new stadium.

does anyone know what is happening at the lane with our ground and office staff

 

[Linz]

Pay cuts, furlough or deferrals: what are the Premier League clubs doing?

From Arsenal to Wolves, we look at what the clubs are doing regarding pay for players, non-playing staff and casual staff

www.theguardian.com

All employees have been paid as normal and have not been told to expect that situation to change imminently.

The reality, of course, being that a large proportion of the matchday staff aren't technically employed by SUFC.

 

[Upton_Blade]

Pay cuts, furlough or deferrals: what are the Premier League clubs doing?

From Arsenal to Wolves, we look at what the clubs are doing regarding pay for players, non-playing staff and casual staff

www.theguardian.com

The reality, of course, being that a large proportion of the matchday staff aren't technically employed by SUFC.

Correct and it should be down to their employers to handle their own response to this ie not SUFC.

We pay the companies to provide a service and their employees as part of that service. I know it's cold but it's really not our responsibility to look after their employees as well.

 

[Linz]

Correct and it should be down to their employers to handle their own response to this ie not SUFC.

We pay the companies to provide a service and their employees as part of that service. I know it's cold but it's really not our responsibility to look after their employees as well.

But all of these things used to be in-house before being outsourced and still are in-house some cases, so the comparison is apples and oranges between clubs.

 

[Birdwell Blade]

An associate of mine is employed by both Utd and Pigs and whilst the latter are usually shit at looking after people, I’m pleased to say both clubs have been very good to him (permanent staff) in these circumstances.

 

[Numpty's Dusty Ruts.]

It's a sad indictment of both football and the society we live in that players in the top two leagues appear to be being paid their regular salaries for doing nowt, whilst ancillary staff are being laid off or having wage cuts. Whilst not all players are on £150000 a week, even £5000 a week (which most players at that level would consider a pittance) equates to £260000 a year. That's 10 times the average salary or over 15 times the minimum wage for adults. And that's for players with perhaps the lowest wages (United have the lowest wage bill in the Premier League).
If all the players in the top two leagues gave 5% of their salaries (on £5000 a week that's about £1080 a month, on £150000 a week it's about £65000 - yes, really- a month), this would really help the ancillary staff, would save the government some furlough money, and would probably improve the image of footballers!! Can't see it happening though.

 

[1066blade]

We are all in this together = Tottenham are reducing the salaries of non-playing staff by 20 per cent as a result of the coronavirus pandemic – as it emerged chairman Daniel Levy at the same time has just received a £3m bonus for delivering the new stadium.

does anyone know what is happening at the lane with our ground and office staff

Sorry Wad, you've clearly misunderstood what Tottenham (and a growing number of Prem clubs) have done. They haven't reduced salaries by 20%, they've furloughed all non playing staff (approx 500). This means the government scheme (or tax payers like me and you) will now pay 80% of their wages.
When you consider that Spurs chairman Levy is a billionaire, could quite easily absorb this cost, it's totally outrageous and a complete misuse of the initiative.

 

[Bladezz]

I don’t understand why people are looking towards footballers.

Staff that are furloughed and the wages being topped up are still entitled to mortgage payments being put on hold. I bet there’s not as big an outcry when Joe Bloggs screws the bank over for £1500 over 3 Months.

 

[Sean Thornton]

But all of these things used to be in-house before being outsourced and still are in-house some cases, so the comparison is apples and oranges between clubs.

Premier Events ( ?) are a company owned 100% by us.

I think the beer pies set up is a totally unrelated company and aren’t Uniteds responsibility.

 

[Klaatu Barada Nikto]

But all of these things used to be in-house before being outsourced and still are in-house some cases, so the comparison is apples and oranges between clubs.

I doubt we’re much different to other clubs in that respect though?

 

[Numpty's Dusty Ruts.]

I don’t understand why people are looking towards footballers.

Staff that are furloughed and the wages being topped up are still entitled to mortgage payments being put on hold. I bet there’s not as big an outcry when Joe Bloggs screws the bank over for £1500 over 3 Months.

Joe Bloggs needs the money to keep a roof over his head. Premier League and Championship players are all rich, by anyone's standards. Some are obscenely rich. This isn't their fault, it's the system, but the system has been incredibly advantageous to them. The contrast between what players are paid and what the staff who make sure that the football club can actually operate is vast. Players and clubs making a small contribution will help those staff and could reduce the amount which the state is currently having to stump up, which could be spent elsewhere (the NHS for example). As Tesco used to say "every little helps "!

 

[Ivanhoe]

I don’t think that players are against coughing up a bit, but let them decide where they want it to go, if they want to keep ‘Ada the tea lady’ in a job then fantastic in my world.
But having some MP coming along spouting about players not stumping up, smacks of jealousy and hypocrisy in my book. Has he said that he is giving up 30% of his salary, bearing in mind these are the sods who have kept it underfunded for years. It starts at home you stump up first and ask us ALL to follow.

 

[sjl]

I think a lot of this has been lost on agenda and propaganda. I don’t believe one player wouldn’t forego a proportion of his wage for the right reasons. If Harry Kane took his pay cut, do we honestly think the money would go to the right people, no it won’t, would Spurs take staff off furlough? I don’t think the proposal by Hancock was aimed at the players, it was aimed at the clubs but he worded it poorly. What he probably wants is for these big earning clubs to take a moral stance for once and I’ll stick my neck out now, 99% of the players want to, 99% of the owners don’t care.

 

[Bladezz]

Joe Bloggs needs the money to keep a roof over his head. Premier League and Championship players are all rich, by anyone's standards. Some are obscenely rich. This isn't their fault, it's the system, but the system has been incredibly advantageous to them. The contrast between what players are paid and what the staff who make sure that the football club can actually operate is vast. Players and clubs making a small contribution will help those staff and could reduce the amount which the state is currently having to stump up, which could be spent elsewhere (the NHS for example). As Tesco used to say "every little helps "!

I agree with your points but if staff are walking away with 100% of there money you’d agree that anyone using the mortgage deferment would be absolutly scum of the earth too?

 

[Bladezz]

Anyone know how many non footballing staff we do have?

 

[Numpty's Dusty Ruts.]

I agree with your points but if staff are walking away with 100% of there money you’d agree that anyone using the mortgage deferment would be absolutly scum of the earth too?

I wouldn't say they were the scum of the earth, but they would be pretty twattish to do this.

 

[1066blade]

Anyone know how many non footballing staff we do have?

No I don't to be honest, but what I do know is, before Wilder arrived, we had several non footballing staff in the bloody first team!

 

[1889]

The Government should say that, any organisation that pays 10% or more, of its employees £5,000 a week, should not be eligible to use the furlough initiative to pay other employees.
They should have to redistribute funds internally, to ensure that there are no jobs lost within the lowest paid sector of their organisation.
These are extraordinary circumstances, which will have financial consequences for UK taxpayers for years to come. The government has a duty to minimise that burden by sensible controls, whilst ensuring adequate funds for the NHS.