CONFIRMED Nigel Adkins is gone

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Back to square 1, just like 11 months ago. I have no interest anymore until mcabe leaves. The only person for the job is warnock. That is not happening though so until this football club gets its act together, and mcabe leaves, we will be subjected to manager after manager.selling our best players, selling off our assets, no investment. I have have been a blade since 1988, we are at our lowest, i will follow our scores but i just can't support the club at the moment under this regime.
 

Pinchy said:
I have bought a season ticket that will go unused mate. I'm a Blade of over 50 years long-suffering and they can gladly have the dosh but I won't be participating in the one season under Wilder any more than I would under another Bladey favourite like Morgan. I saw Wilder's Oxford team a few times. They were functional at best without any style or flair. He was on the verge of the sack there on a number of occasions and his departure was not mourned by anyone. They now play far better football. Appleton IN! No doubt Wilder had a good season with Northampton but it's been a fucking long time coming and its Division Four, for Pele's sake. From what I've seen of them, there ain't much football there, either. You can say it's been effective but one season does not make a manager and his overall record is completely underwhelming. He's no young up and comer as some people kid themselves, but rather a seasoned mediocrity who has had more than long enough to prove where he belongs. He has and it's Non-League and Division Four.

Adkins has had a very poor season. His CV suggests, however, that he would have turned it round next year. This policy of giving managers one shot or you're out is football lunacy. It's crazy, costs a fortune and is self-perpetuating.

I see nothing whatsoever in Wilder to give me any confidence that my time won't be better spent bringing down my handicap. It's a cheap option, entirely lacking in ambition and calculated to appease the simple-minded section of our support to whom "He's a Blade" is more important than ability and achievement. Remember Quickfix Micky Adams?

It's an appalling appointment, made for all the wrong reasons, and I want nothing to do with it. I'm sure you can all manage without me for a year...:)
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Now that is a fair and well reasoned response.
 
Pinchy said:
You make your point well, as usual. You surely agree though, that 'one-shot or you're sacked' is both a philosophy of despair and a self-perpetuating recipe for chaos and failure? If we're going to bite the bullet and actually have the bottle to stick with someone surely Adkins' credentials entitle him to be that man? If not, who?
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Thing is though, Adkins showed no signs of progress in the job and, on balance, another wasted season in D3 looked more likely under him than a proper promotion push. Personally, I would have given him 10 games or so next season to see if there were signs of improvement, but as I keep saying, this is a reasonable Adams/Weir type sacking rather than a crazy Wilson/Blackwell sacking.
 
1danewhitehouse said:
All the best Nigel. Some of our fans appreciated the work you were doing and the vision of how you wanted us to play. Shame you never got the chance to put it into practice with your own playing staff.


Let’s hope the academy stuff and scouting network continue in his absence.
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The vision which changed 3 or 4 times in the one season he was with us? Can't agree with that, his vision was something along the lines of 'scoring goals and keeping clean sheets.' There's nothing unique in that, it's the basic premise of football.

He often said he wanted to play 'quick football' yet persisted with his mate Hammond who always slowed down our play.

He also said he wanted to 'get it wide and put crosses in the box' yet we had no wingers.

He also said he wanted a 'pathway for the youngsters to the first team' yet in a completely meaningless game at the end of the season he picked an 11 which had failed us all season and did not allow some of the young lads who had been performing so well in the under 21 & under 18 levels a chance.
 
crucialkneeligaman said:
Has to be Steve Evans who sounds like he is on his way out of Leeds. I don't care what a c##t he is. he knows this division and did a fantastic job at Rotherham. My only reservation is that he had a chairman at that club who backed and supported him, something sadly lacking at the Lane. McCabe disastrous selections of managers must be reaching double figures now, surely he can't keep fucking up can he ?
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Surely he can't keep fucking up can he?

He can if you keep going
 
1danewhitehouse said:
I suppose it all depends how you view it. Clough scraped a playoff place due to a very kind points spread. We then lost the best player of the team that achieved that. Clough's squad was also built with the mentality of counter-attacking football, 451, "starting with a point" etc. The antithesis of how Adkins wanted us to play (our board love going from one extreme to another in terms of playing style to further hamstring every manager that comes in). Adkins managed to outright buy one player for a third of what Murphy was sold for. He finished 6 points worse than Clough but faced numerous disadvantages compared with Clough's circumstances.
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Clough also lost his best player (Maguire) as did Wilson in 12-13 (Blackman). Both managed the play offs. I don't see how Adkins was any more disadvantaged than Clough. I don't see how some players being on a season long loan is any less of a signing than a "permanent" one. I would be willing to bet a large sum of money that wages and fees for Sharp, Woolford, Sammon, Edgar, Hammond and Baptiste were significantly higher than the fee we got for Murphy and his wages.
 
People keep pointing towards Adkins not being sufficiently backed by the board. They landed his two main targets in Sharp and Hammond. I dread to think how much that will have cost us but I strongly suspect it is more than what we received for Murphy.

Adkins was backed, it was his fault that he had such expensive taste in players.
 
Eskimo said:
I don't like this management merry go round but please someone tell me one good thing that Adkins did.
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1. Reduced the wage bill
2. Generated about £1million in transfer fees (net)
3. Got rid of some of the dross Clough singed.
4. Bought Billy Sharp meaning we had our first 20 goal striker since Ched.
5. Tried to find ways to effectively play attacking football with 2 up top (admittedly not very successfully with the players at his disposal).
 
1danewhitehouse said:
1. Reduced the wage bill
2. Generated about £1million in transfer fees (net)
3. Got rid of some of the dross Clough singed.
4. Bought Billy Sharp meaning we had our first 20 goal striker since Ched.
5. Tried to find ways to effectively play attacking football with 2 up top (admittedly not very successfully with the players at his disposal).
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You can't give him credit got the Murphy money. It wasn't a tactical decision by NA to generate funds for his team building.

Agree with him getting rid of slightly burnt Players though :)
 
Pinchy said:
You make your point well, as usual. You surely agree though, that 'one-shot or you're sacked' is both a philosophy of despair and a self-perpetuating recipe for chaos and failure? If we're going to bite the bullet and actually have the bottle to stick with someone surely Adkins' credentials entitle him to be that man? If not, who?
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If Adkins had finished in the play-offs, but failed to get us up, or possibly even finished 7th after a good run at the end of the season, he might have had an argument that it was an unfair sacking. To finish the season in 11th place is utterly inexcusable, and I really think he can't have too many complaints.
 
Darren said:
Thing is though, Adkins showed no signs of progress in the job and, on balance, another wasted season in D3 looked more likely under him than a proper promotion push. Personally, I would have given him 10 games or so next season to see if there were signs of improvement, but as I keep saying, this is a reasonable Adams/Weir type sacking rather than a crazy Wilson/Blackwell sacking.
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Again, I think in the context of the way the club has been run over the last 2-3 years, the timing, the lack of backing compared to his pre-decessor etc. I think it is crazy. If you give someone a mediocre squad, sell the best player, don't back them to bring new players in and only give them a season to build something, you're on a hiding to nothing. I genuinely think any manager would have failed in those circumstances.
 
Oh well. Probably inevitable after Sunday's debacle. Or may well have been decided weeks ago, as per the ITK posts.

Either way, it was a gamble; trust Adkins to show what he's failed to show so far or replace him with another who may also fail but may succeed.

I don't envy KM having to make the decision; it's certainly not cut and dried.

Ironically, the two managers with the most impressive CVs have been two of the biggest failures; Adkins and Adams.
And the one we sacked last year will be managing in the championship next season.

I'm not even going to try to make sense of it.
 

I can't say I'm surprised, I've been expecting to read he was going since Sunday. At least the club have acted quickly this time to ensure the new man can decide on the retained list and plan for next season. I would have given Adkins another season but in exactly the same way I felt when Clough was sacked, I'm not disappointed either.

All makes for an interesting summer!
 
1danewhitehouse said:
Again, I think in the context of the way the club has been run over the last 2-3 years, the timing, the lack of backing compared to his pre-decessor etc. I think it is crazy. If you give someone a mediocre squad, sell the best player, don't back them to bring new players in and only give them a season to build something, you're on a hiding to nothing. I genuinely think any manager would have failed in those circumstances.
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He was given a squad that reached the play offs the previous season and allowed to bring in 6 new players for the loss of the best player. Any decent manager would have at least made the play offs.
 
Darren said:
I don't see how Adkins was any more disadvantaged than Clough. .
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Really? Building an entire squad of your own players including a £2million right back compared with being able to bring in 6 players (one only for the last few games which did spark some improvement). Of Clough's squad there were only Murphy and Brayford that were any good. Adkins has had one of them for about a third of a season.

As for the wages of incomings v Murphy. It should also be considered that Higdon, Alcock, Dimaio, Khan, Doyle, Davies, Turner etc. have all been moved off the wage bill from last season's squad.
 
Thank fuck that clown has gone.....

Ermmm who's left who hasnt already managed us now?
 
1danewhitehouse said:
Really? Building an entire squad of your own players including a £2million right back compared with being able to bring in 6 players (one only for the last few games which did spark some improvement). Of Clough's squad there were only Murphy and Brayford that were any good. Adkins has had one of them for about a third of a season.

As for the wages of incomings v Murphy. It should also be considered that Higdon, Alcock, Dimaio, Khan, Doyle, Davies, Turner etc. have all been moved off the wage bill from last season's squad.
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Ok, compare to 2013-14. Clough inherited Weir's relegation fodder which had lost its best player (MacDonald), brought in around 6 new players and took us to 7th and a cup semi. Adkins took over a play off team, lost his best player, brought in 6 new players and took us to 11th.

Honestly, any manager with a reasonable degree of competence should be able to get SUFC in the top 6 in the 3rd Division. Adkins failed.
 
Darren said:
He was given a squad that reached the play offs the previous season and allowed to bring in 6 new players for the loss of the best player. Any decent manager would have at least made the play offs.
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By that reckoning he's not a decent manager? Does a good manager (tipped for the England job a few years ago) become a bad one suddenly? I just don't see it. Some managers click with some dressing rooms. Some managers do well in certain circumstances but not others. I absolutely disagree that "any decent manager" would have made the playoffs.
 
Darren said:
Ok, compare to 2013-14. Clough inherited Weir's relegation fodder which had lost its best player (MacDonald), brought in around 6 new players and took us to 7th and a cup semi. Adkins took over a play off team, lost his best player, brought in 6 new players and took us to 11th.

Honestly, any manager with a reasonable degree of competence should be able to get SUFC in the top 6 in the 3rd Division. Adkins failed.
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I don't for a minute dispute that Clough was more of an impact manager than Adkins and got the best out of the players available. He did an excellent job in his first season. His downfall was his recruitment after that. Adkins hasn't had that chance.
 
Eskimo said:
I don't like this management merry go round but please someone tell me one good thing that Adkins did.
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If there had been any sort of spark in the last few games, when the final challenge was on, knowing exactly what was needed, maybe, maybe he might have stayed...
 
The club will go and get a clown manager in. So nothing will cheer the club up with these clowns in charged.


Nigel Adkins has tweeted.


Nigel Adkins ‏@TheNigelAdkins 3h3 hours ago
I've met many good people in the 11 months I've lived in Sheffield. I wish you well. It saddens me to say goodbye.

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By sheer logic, the longer we spend in League One, the longer it will take to build up a genuine promotion-worthy team.

Long gone are the days of us being a Championship side playing in the division lower - we're just a League One team playing where they should be. The turnaround becomes an ever-bigger project as the seasons roll by.

Quick fixes, magic fairy dust and a new manager every season are evidently not the right way to go pursue our aims, but there seem to be a great deal of people - from the board all the way down to the fans - that are convinced there's some off-the-shelf, plug-and-play solution that will rid us of our woes overnight.

Not saying any of the previous few managers were the right person necessarily (and Adkins' main downfall was is endless supply of platitudes and niceties regardless of results on the pitch) but the whole shortsightedness of it all is really starting to grate.
 

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