Ndiaye 2024

[Danetheblade]

Just over a year ago Iliman Ndiaye was a hero, some Blades saying he's the best player we've ever had, and was due to become the best paid player we've ever had.

After a pretty disastrous year at his "hometown" club he's now dealing with this from his new fans:



I get he's significantly richer than he was, but surely he's got a few regrets about leaving us?

Zero sympathy for the lad. Had the world at his feet with us. Advised by his agent to take the money (which we’d apparently matched) and play for Marseille.. that went well lol.. now at a club always involved in a relegation scrap in the premier league. Should’ve seen the bigger picture. Could and more than likely would’ve been at a top six club, in and around the first team.. not scraping by at some shite bottom half premier league team.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Let’s not pretend that if he resigned he wouldn’t be heralded as a returning son and even the most pathetically over sensitive fan would rather see him playing for us than elsewhere. If they’re honest with themselves of course.

 

[TJ blade]

Should have stopped at the lane and enjoyed his football career, instead he listened to his agent and chased the money, the Mairseille thing was a load of bolloxs. Turned into a greedy bastard! Fuck him!! Enjoy next season in the championship

 

[Blade45]

Very sad story. I don’t particularly understand people saying they have no sympathy for the lad. We’d all jump for the chance to play at United, and it’s no surprise he did the same when Marseille called. Joining Everton was stupid, but perhaps he wanted to play in the Premier League.


I was born after the years of Tony Currie and was too young to remember the Deane and Agana days. For this reason, I can comfortably say he’s the best footballer I’ve ever seen for United. He had a bond with the fans too, which is perhaps made it so sad he left us. I hold no resentment towards him for leaving for his boyhood club, and I’ll say I thoroughly enjoyed his time at our club.

 

[Champagneblade]

Should have stopped at the lane and enjoyed his football career, instead he listened to his agent and chased the money, the Mairseille thing was a load of bolloxs. Turned into a greedy bastard! Fuck him!! Enjoy next season in the championship

I suppose a year later he’ll be fighting the same relegation battle he would have been with us, however he’ll be on a far more sizeable wage and most likely have a slightly better chance of staying up.

If he shows glimpses then, just like Berge to Burnley, he could jump to a team that’s secure mid-table.

 

[Torrix1889]

I might well be in the minority here but I don't think Ndaiye is anywhere near the top level either in the Prem or France for that matter.

It was a perfect storm when he played for us, he suited the system and we played to his strengths and I just don't think he is good enough to replicate that in a higher league.

Championship is his level and I expect him to be on loan somewhere there come January after failing to make an impact at Everton.

 

[Irv]

I might well be in the minority here but I don't think Ndaiye is anywhere near the top level either in the Prem or France for that matter.

It was a perfect storm when he played for us, he suited the system and we played to his strengths and I just don't think he is good enough to replicate that in a higher league.

Championship is his level and I expect him to be on loan somewhere there come January after failing to make an impact at Everton.

If he’s available for loan in January (I don’t think he will be) then I hope we’d be beating the door down for him!

 

[SUFCinks]

I might well be in the minority here but I don't think Ndaiye is anywhere near the top level either in the Prem or France for that matter.

It was a perfect storm when he played for us, he suited the system and we played to his strengths and I just don't think he is good enough to replicate that in a higher league.

Championship is his level and I expect him to be on loan somewhere there come January after failing to make an impact at Everton.

Totally agree.

I’ve seen comments saying he should be at a top 6 team which is pretty wild. He was extremely good, probably my favourite player for us (or at least top 3), but his level is mid to bottom half prem. Only have to look at MGW to see a player of similar ability and which end of the table he’s at. Even Eze, who’s twice the player and been killing it at palace for seasons is bottom half.

There are leagues of talent between players like Foden, Palmer, B silva, Madison, Fernandes, KDB, Odegaard, Eze and the likes of Ndiaye.

 

[Frank the tank]

Totally agree.

I’ve seen comments saying he should be at a top 6 team which is pretty wild. He was extremely good, probably my favourite player for us (or at least top 3), but his level is mid to bottom half prem. Only have to look at MGW to see a player of similar ability and which end of the table he’s at. Even Eze, who’s twice the player and been killing it at palace for seasons is bottom half.

There are leagues of talent between players like Foden, Palmer, B silva, Madison, Fernandes, KDB, Odegaard, Eze and the likes of Ndiaye.

When Everton fans have asked about him
I've told them he needs a free role and patience
Don't think he will get either and will be getting farmed out in January

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Should have stopped at the lane and enjoyed his football career, instead he listened to his agent and chased the money, the Mairseille thing was a load of bolloxs. Turned into a greedy bastard! Fuck him!! Enjoy next season in the championship

His new contract with us was rumoured to be much more than they were offering, with making him the highest paid player in our history.
It’s likely he’s on more now with Everton but I doubt it’s significantly more. So he made a decision that wasn’t money based at all.
Maybe it was a footballing one, maybe he did want to play for his boyhood club, but it’s highly unlikely to have been financial.

 

[Le Cynique]

Very sad story. I don’t particularly understand people saying they have no sympathy for the lad. We’d all jump for the chance to play at United, and it’s no surprise he did the same when Marseille called. Joining Everton was stupid, but perhaps he wanted to play in the Premier League.


I was born after the years of Tony Currie and was too young to remember the Deane and Agana days. For this reason, I can comfortably say he’s the best footballer I’ve ever seen for United. He had a bond with the fans too, which is perhaps made it so sad he left us. I hold no resentment towards him for leaving for his boyhood club, and I’ll say I thoroughly enjoyed his time at our club.

I get what you’re saying, and for me it’s not that I wish him any malice at all, I just don’t care about him in football terms one way or another. He made his choices (admittedly with unhelpful outside influences) but he’s a grown up and has to deal with them. It’s not like he’s reduced to living in penury is it?

That said, the abuse at the train station was vile and uncalled for.

 

[Torrix1889]

Totally agree.

I’ve seen comments saying he should be at a top 6 team which is pretty wild. He was extremely good, probably my favourite player for us (or at least top 3), but his level is mid to bottom half prem. Only have to look at MGW to see a player of similar ability and which end of the table he’s at. Even Eze, who’s twice the player and been killing it at palace for seasons is bottom half.

There are leagues of talent between players like Foden, Palmer, B silva, Madison, Fernandes, KDB, Odegaard, Eze and the likes of Ndiaye.

Well he's going to be in the bottom half Prem with Everton this season, they look awful....if I was having a tenner on it though I still reckon he will be loaned to a Championship club in Jan....probably a Leeds/Burnley, maybe even Sunderland if they are still pushing and as suspected, lose Clarke.

 

[Rodley]

I long for the day that we have a smidgen of success as a club and thus when a player moves on to better things, we don’t behave like a bitter divorcee propping up the bar, sounding off that we’re delighted our wife has left us because her “…Yorkshire puddings were shite anyway”.

 

[Kozzy_is_my_Dad]

Very sad story. I don’t particularly understand people saying they have no sympathy for the lad. We’d all jump for the chance to play at United, and it’s no surprise he did the same when Marseille called. Joining Everton was stupid, but perhaps he wanted to play in the Premier League.


I was born after the years of Tony Currie and was too young to remember the Deane and Agana days. For this reason, I can comfortably say he’s the best footballer I’ve ever seen for United. He had a bond with the fans too, which is perhaps made it so sad he left us. I hold no resentment towards him for leaving for his boyhood club, and I’ll say I thoroughly enjoyed his time at our club.

This.

He's had two absolutely honking, ill-advised moves though and his development has been hugely stalled.

 

[ekke287]

I understood when he left for Marseille, although it was gutting as a club I appreciated it was basically the only club he’d go to, and where his heart lies.

That’s all forgotten this season however, as he’s moved to Everton where he’ll likely not get the freedom needed to thrive and will likely have a slightly improved situation as if he’d stayed with us (ie a relegation scrap but one more likely to end in success than with us).

All the good sentiment has gone, and he’s proved he’ll just go wherever, so to me is now another ex player. I hope he does well in the future, but wasting anymore time wondering what could’ve been is pointless.

The Berge leaving situation now irks me more, as he genuinely seemed to love it here and was being touted around for most of his tenure. On top of this we let McB go for nothing, so the whole needing to sell nonsense is now a non-starter.

Awful business all round, and leaves a very sour taste.

 

[Weasel]

I had no issue with the lad moving to Marseille as that was his dream move and as stated by others, it wasn't particularly driven by money. It was a personal yearning to play for his boyhood team that was the pull. In the same way that Billy Sharp has signed for us 3 times over his career and probably at times when he could have got more money elsewhere. It's his boyhood team. I'd probably have done the same if I was in that position.

The bit which irks me with Ndaiye is the willingness to jump ship after just 1 season to sign for Everton. Surely if the pull was that strong with his boyhood club, he would want to stick it out for a bit longer, and see if he can turn things around this coming season ? Unless Everton were offering an unbelievable contract compared to his currentone in France (unlikely bearing in mind their financial concerns) then I just don't see why he would want to cut and run so quickly. I think I would have thought sod you, I'm staying at SUFC, if I was in his position and I had signed for my boyhood club. Going to Everton so quickly just flags him as a bit of a quitter in my book and not someone to hang your hat on. Very skilful player, enjoyable to watch, but maybe a bit more resilience and loyalty wouldn't go amiss.

That said, if he was available again in the future and attainable then I would like to think we would be seriously in for him again. Maybe he would appreciate playing for us a wee bit more if that happened.

 

[Blade56]

Well he's going to be in the bottom half Prem with Everton this season, they look awful....if I was having a tenner on it though I still reckon he will be loaned to a Championship club in Jan....probably a Leeds/Burnley, maybe even Sunderland if they are still pushing and as suspected, lose Clarke.

I thought Clarke has left Sunderland for Ipswich

 

[Brownieblade]

Zero sympathy for the lad. Had the world at his feet with us. Advised by his agent to take the money (which we’d apparently matched) and play for Marseille.. that went well lol.. now at a club always involved in a relegation scrap in the premier league. Should’ve seen the bigger picture. Could and more than likely would’ve been at a top six club, in and around the first team.. not scraping by at some shite bottom half premier league team.

Can’t blame him for wanting to play for his team, majority of us would do same

I really like the lad but have doubts he would have been at a top 6 club, would need to have played for us in prem then get move to a middle tier prem team and then see if he could take the next step up

Of course there is a scenario where he plays for us and a top 6 team takes a gamble but imo it’s just as likely he is on outside of squad looking in

That’s not to say he hasn’t ability, of course he has, but question is would he be better than the level of players those top 6 can buy

He is at a club now where he has a shot at showing he can be something special surrounded by prem standard good/average players

 

[Brownieblade]

I had no issue with the lad moving to Marseille as that was his dream move and as stated by others, it wasn't particularly driven by money. It was a personal yearning to play for his boyhood team that was the pull. In the same way that Billy Sharp has signed for us 3 times over his career and probably at times when he could have got more money elsewhere. It's his boyhood team. I'd probably have done the same if I was in that position.

The bit which irks me with Ndaiye is the willingness to jump ship after just 1 season to sign for Everton. Surely if the pull was that strong with his boyhood club, he would want to stick it out for a bit longer, and see if he can turn things around this coming season ? Unless Everton were offering an unbelievable contract compared to his currentone in France (unlikely bearing in mind their financial concerns) then I just don't see why he would want to cut and run so quickly. I think I would have thought sod you, I'm staying at SUFC, if I was in his position and I had signed for my boyhood club. Going to Everton so quickly just flags him as a bit of a quitter in my book and not someone to hang your hat on. Very skilful player, enjoyable to watch, but maybe a bit more resilience and loyalty wouldn't go amiss.

That said, if he was available again in the future and attainable then I would like to think we would be seriously in for him again. Maybe he would appreciate playing for us a wee bit more if that happened.

Regarding him coming back, I have no idea and just guessing on this but when he was still here and you had the rumours at end that he was going to stay with us and sign a new deal, I always wondered was he only staying because his mrs and new child didn’t want to move and it was only the pull for playing for boyhood club that pushed him in end

Maybe his mrs wants to move back, added to new manager possibly rating him less, maybe he actually prefers the English style?? Could be a few reasons

 

[SwissBlade]

I also can’t see him being at a top 6 club for a while, if at all now. He’s becoming a journeyman now with poorly thought out decisions.

Marseille was a decision of the heart, not the head. Somethings are better left alone. He was offered very good money to stay the season with us and he took the Marseille option. Had he stayed with us and we came back down, nobody would’ve begrudged his move this summer to go to the Premier League again.

As for Everton, he rejected them in the January of the promotion year when they were perhaps in a better position and he’s ended up at a shit show of a club playing a style which doesn’t fit him. He doesn’t fit there at all.

Teams like Brentford, Brighton, Newcastle, Palace or Fulham were perhaps better options for him, but they didn’t offer him anything? Why? Because he’d been a bit part player last season in a league which is not as tough as the premier league

It’s strange. He’d come the long way around to get into pro football after rejections when he was younger he ended up making good of his ability with us, now he seems that two decisions will set him back for a while, unless things change dramatically

He’ll end up out on loan to the championship in Jan if things don’t change

 

[Old Programme seller]

I also wax under the impression that he went to his hometown club who said that they would only come in once for him in his playing career creating the tug on the heart strings but they also may have told him to go and find football elsewhere as he wasn’t the player for them hence why he moved to Everton, not everything is run by the player perhaps the club took charge and contacted Everton to tell them that he was surplus to requirements. Same ending but a slightly different story.

 

[Booker4]

I had no issue with the lad moving to Marseille as that was his dream move and as stated by others, it wasn't particularly driven by money. It was a personal yearning to play for his boyhood team that was the pull. In the same way that Billy Sharp has signed for us 3 times over his career and probably at times when he could have got more money elsewhere. It's his boyhood team. I'd probably have done the same if I was in that position.

The bit which irks me with Ndaiye is the willingness to jump ship after just 1 season to sign for Everton. Surely if the pull was that strong with his boyhood club, he would want to stick it out for a bit longer, and see if he can turn things around this coming season ? Unless Everton were offering an unbelievable contract compared to his currentone in France (unlikely bearing in mind their financial concerns) then I just don't see why he would want to cut and run so quickly. I think I would have thought sod you, I'm staying at SUFC, if I was in his position and I had signed for my boyhood club. Going to Everton so quickly just flags him as a bit of a quitter in my book and not someone to hang your hat on. Very skilful player, enjoyable to watch, but maybe a bit more resilience and loyalty wouldn't go amiss.

That said, if he was available again in the future and attainable then I would like to think we would be seriously in for him again. Maybe he would appreciate playing for us a wee bit more if that happened.

Maybe he didn't have much choice but to leave this summer if Marseille didn't want him and needed the money?

 

[Badger Blade]

He's a very good footballer and the combination of Everton and Dyche isn't a great one for any player with any modicum of flair or ability. Agent has just sold him to the highest bidder.
Dyche is simply the manager that Kevin Blackwell could have been.

A middling team like Palace, Fulham or even a slightly better one like Brighton would have suited him so much better. Osula is on the bench for Newcastle and he can't lace Ndiaye's boots IMO.

 

[SUFCinks]

Well he's going to be in the bottom half Prem with Everton this season, they look awful....if I was having a tenner on it though I still reckon he will be loaned to a Championship club in Jan....probably a Leeds/Burnley, maybe even Sunderland if they are still pushing and as suspected, lose Clarke.

it wouldn’t surprise me

 

[Groucho Blade]

Just over a year ago Iliman Ndiaye was a hero, some Blades saying he's the best player we've ever had, and was due to become the best paid player we've ever had.

After a pretty disastrous year at his "hometown" club he's now dealing with this from his new fans:



I get he's significantly richer than he was, but surely he's got a few regrets about leaving us?

Jeez…that’s bonkers. Really toxic. Not the best way of getting the lads to play for the shirt.
It wouldn’t be a surprise if Everton are relegated this season. It’s probably their time.

 

[Weasel]

Maybe he didn't have much choice but to leave this summer if Marseille didn't want him and needed the money?

He was under contract with Marseille. They could have told him that he wouldn't figure in the first team much this season of course and that chances would be limited. Then he might have decided to look for a move. But he had the choice to move or stay. Marseille can't just rip up his contract.

 

[Harrisblade]

He was under contract with Marseille. They could have told him that he wouldn't figure in the first team much this season of course and that chances would be limited. Then he might have decided to look for a move. But he had the choice to move or stay. Marseille can't just rip up his contract.

They can't - but they can still say that he doesn't really figure in the managers plans and probably won't play much if he stays
Edit - oops, sorry, just focused on your last sentence!

 

[bornablade]

Let him go to Preston.

Hecky knew how to get the best out of him.

 

[Booker4]

Can I ask why there's a rumour thread on Ndiaye? Is he coming back?!

 

[Sean Thornton]

Can I ask why there's a rumour thread on Ndiaye? Is he coming back?!

He’s the new Brownie…….