N’Diaye

All advertisments are hidden for logged in members, why not log in/register?

bornablade said:
We need to hope that all he does during the World Cup is keep the Senegal's bench warm.

Come back fit and strong. Let's look forward to what he can do for us and not what he might do for another club post-January.
Click to expand...
As much as I'd like him to come back fresh, I think he'll come back with increased confidence having spent time at the WC.
All we can hope is that he comes back unscathed as he is integral to our promotion push this season!
 



El Volví said:
As much as I'd like him to come back fresh, I think he'll come back with increased confidence having spent time at the WC.
All we can hope is that he comes back unscathed as he is integral to our promotion push this season!
Click to expand...
He won't get much game time with the number of strikers they already have around the squad.
 
VictoryBlade said:
Its funny when the press will talk about his career they will never mention us, I'm sure of it!
Click to expand...
Scousers, who everyone knows, are sooooo knowleagable about football, and I think they have decided that they 'disovered' him.

We all knew that there was a very good PL player there, and I'd be amazed if he stays in England, that he doesn;t end up at a bigger club.
 
I should coco said:
Scousers, who everyone knows, are sooooo knowleagable about football, and I think they have decided that they 'disovered' him.

We all knew that there was a very good PL player there, and I'd be amazed if he stays in England, that he doesn;t end up at a bigger club.
Click to expand...

Boreham Wood fans reading this forum will be letting out a resigned sigh.
 
Geordie Blade said:
Boreham Wood fans reading this forum will be letting out a resigned sigh.
Click to expand...

I get your point, but I'm not sure how much they developed him. He looked very much like a street footballer, in the early days - loads of tricks and close control, but no positional sense or demonstratiion of teamwork.

To the joint credit of Hecky/McCall/Jack and Illy himself, he came on massively in that second season and really looked a proper team player.
With all due respect (i.e. non), Boreham wood can take fuck all credit for that.
 
Belvedere Blade said:
View attachment 228764
Click to expand...
One of the annoying aspects of the commentary today was that it was said that he'd never score an easier goal.

In fact he'd been heavily involved in the build up down the right flank and then had raced into the six yard box to be available to pick up any loose ends. It was a very fine piece of forward play. He made sure he was in the right place at the right time.
 
He’ll always be our Starboy.

We were the ones to give him his league debut, introduce him to pro football and give him his debut.

He’s been to Marseille and now at Everton.

Everton are just one of the clubs he’s collecting along the way. If he’s there next season then his agent has done something wrong.
 
Unless he ends up signing for Leeds or Wednesday, which I sincerely doubt he will, I'll always mutter "Gu on" any time he picks up the ball. The lad was so special for us.

He was strongarmed into a move that was bad for him, and I'll always hate Marseille for that. They did him dirty. I've no hate for Everton and I hope he smashes it there and at the bigger clubs he'll move onto.
 



Mojo said:
What kind of reception do you think he would get if he plays against us?

I couldn't boo him but the way he left was really heartbreaking and upsetting
Click to expand...
Similar to Jags/Walker et al he was a fantastic player for us and the main player in our promotion run. I would applaud him happily
 
Mojo said:
What kind of reception do you think he would get if he plays against us?

I couldn't boo him but the way he left was really heartbreaking and upsetting
Click to expand...
I think the majority would applaud and cheer his name, maybe even do the song again when his name is read out which the man is completely undeserving of in my opinion.

Plenty of water has gone under the bridge but he shouldn’t get the kind of reception reserved for genuine club legends/stalwarts.

I wouldn’t boo him mainly because booing is a bit weird and he’d probably use it as fuel to go on and have a great game.

I’ve argued with friends and family about this but the way he left showed he had nothing but contempt for the club and its fans.
 
Probably the best player I've ever seen at the Lane, and it's a real travesty we never got to see him in the Premier League.

We were awful that season, but with him in the side maybe Berge doesn't leave and we're a better proposition for new signings. Even if it's the same squad but with Iliman, we still get a few more points in the first half of the season and are in a better place in January.

Obviously that's all ifs and buts, but to just give up on the whole thing after promotion was pathetic. The £20m has got us nowhere anyway, and he might have even signed a new contract at some point that season once Marseille had fucked off out of the picture.
 
Mojo said:
What kind of reception do you think he would get if he plays against us?

I couldn't boo him but the way he left was really heartbreaking and upsetting
Click to expand...
To film the contract video with Billy, only to change his mind again, was a real low point but it was stupid and naive to film everything before he signed especially as the whole thing had been a constant back and forth.

Based on his interviews I don't think he's the most intelligent lad in the world, so it's understandable that when some arsehole phones you directly and says "sign for your boyhood club now or I guarantee you'll never ever play for them" you're going to panic and make a decision with your heart and not your head.

I definitely wouldn't boo him but if he claps us I'd clap him back.
 
I think you can justifiably question and be unhappy with how he left the club but I genuinely get the feeling that was mainly down to agents, cash and the pull of a big club, what young lad would not be tempted and I don't love football for the contract negotiations and backroom payments.

He's fantastic player, did amazing for us and despite the Marseille move he deserves everything he earns. Deserves a clap as far as I'm concerned.
 
He was the best player of my lifetime so far and I doubt we’ll see anyone better. There aren’t many players who can get you off your seat when they get the ball and he was one. I never saw Tony Currie play but if he was better than Ndiaye he was some player.

Ndiaye had work ethic and ability, having him and Gibbs-White in the same team was unbelievable looking back.

Him leaving was the equivalent of a gifted Blades fan playing in French ligue 2 and being offered more money to join the Blades, we’d all do it.
 
I loved watching him and felt no animosity towards him when he left.
The other way to look at the lead up to his move is that he genuinely struggled to decide between staying with us, and moving to his boyhood club, playing in the champions league - and probably lots of associated personal family pressure pulling him to move. Despite all the pressure to go, it seems he was still torn about whether to stay. I don’t see it as stringing us along, or being unprofessional - just struggling to decide what to do.
Maybe there were other things going on - maybe the chairman told him he was planning to start the season in the premier league with a 52 year old Ollie Norwood in the middle, either Osula or Hackford up front, a few new names (Larouci, Traore, Trusty, …), and in the second half of the season maybe a cunning plan to replace Wes with either a scarecrow or this guy we’ve got our eye on playing on the continent right now (sadly we didn’t go for the scarecrow). Perhaps somebody with incredible prophetic insight suggested ‘I could be wrong here, but I just get a weird feeling that club is not going to do very well this season’.

Of course I have absolutely no real idea what was being said, how anyone felt, what was offered, what people around him said, what he wanted, what the owner did or didn’t do. I don’t think many (any?) of us have, and so most of our reactions are based on stuff we’ve conjured up in our own heads based on the very limited evidence.

My response therefore would fall back to the facts: I loved watching him; he’s a fantastic player; he went to work for somebody else and we got a substantial amount of money for him. I would applaud him in any and every game I saw him in. Briefly. And then - if he was playing against us - hope we battered whoever he was playing for.

If he’d refused to play to force a move, or gone through the motions until his contract was up to earn himself a shed load more money by going on a free - then I would not feel the same.
 
Nedski said:
To film the contract video with Billy, only to change his mind again, was a real low point but it was stupid and naive to film everything before he signed especially as the whole thing had been a constant back and forth.

Based on his interviews I don't think he's the most intelligent lad in the world, so it's understandable that when some arsehole phones you directly and says "sign for your boyhood club now or I guarantee you'll never ever play for them" you're going to panic and make a decision with your heart and not your head.

I definitely wouldn't boo him but if he claps us I'd clap him back.
Click to expand...
Yeah with hindsight it does seem incredibly strange to film the video before the deal was signed. God only knows why they did that.

My take is he courted the move to OM for 12-18 months refusing to sign the contract offered.

Then probably told by his agent after getting promotion to the PL he could use SUFC as a stalking horse to get a better offer from Marseille, leaking the story that he was planning on staying. The sudden change of stance seemed very odd at the time.

OM then promptly told him to stop fucking about left SUFC no alternative but to recoup what they could.

Many of our fans are overly charitable to him in my view because he was such a good player and came through as a young lad so has this Roy of the Rovers aura. We’ve also enjoyed the associations with players like Jags, Maguire, Walker etc who’ve gone on to bigger things and shone a positive light on the academy.


I wouldn’t have begrudged him the move if he’d have just got on with it and gone there without all the fucking about. Then there was the video of him prancing about with their fans at the airport while still our player. Left a very bitter taste.

He didn’t owe the club anything in footballing terms, players come and go….that’s football. He did owe us a bit of respect though in my opinion, the club gave him a career and the fans adored him and when push came to shove he shafted us.
 



CrookesBlade said:
Yeah with hindsight it does seem incredibly strange to film the video before the deal was signed. God only knows why they did that.

My take is he courted the move to OM for 12-18 months refusing to sign the contract offered.

Then probably told by his agent after getting promotion to the PL he could use SUFC as a stalking horse to get a better offer from Marseille, leaking the story that he was planning on staying. The sudden change of stance seemed very odd at the time.

OM then promptly told him to stop fucking about left SUFC no alternative but to recoup what they could.

Many of our fans are overly charitable to him in my view because he was such a good player and came through as a young lad so has this Roy of the Rovers aura. We’ve also enjoyed the associations with players like Jags, Maguire, Walker etc who’ve gone on to bigger things and shone a positive light on the academy.


I wouldn’t have begrudged him the move if he’d have just got on with it and gone there without all the fucking about. Then there was the video of him prancing about with their fans at the airport while still our player. Left a very bitter taste.

He didn’t owe the club anything in footballing terms, players come and go….that’s football. He did owe us a bit of respect though in my opinion, the club gave him a career and the fans adored him and when push came to shove he shafted us.
Click to expand...
It does seem strange to film the video, then leave, but maybe he was genuinely thinking he was going to stay, and then something or someone made him change his mind. If that did happen, then he would look daft saying ‘Yeah but I’ve filmed the video now, so …’.
I obviously don’t know if he was refusing to sign a contract with us for 12-18 months before he moved, but certainly 18 months before he moved he wasn’t even an automatic name of the team sheet - for quite a while Hecky was playing N’Diaye or Gibbs-White, but not both I think. And we don’t know what he was being offered: we do know the club was so skint during that time we ended up being docked points for not paying our bills on time. I doubt we were offering a big contract before we were sure whether we were heading into the premier league, or a 3rd season in the championship (without parachute payments). By that time, things had changed very fast. Within a few months of the 22-23 season starting he’d become the most important player in the team, and then had an international call-up, played in a World Cup, taken us to the top of the table (I remember one match he pretty much beat Coventry on his own). And suddenly it was January and we were all wondering if he and Berge would be sold to pay the bills. The Prince said there were offers for him right then. Some players would have pushed for the big move, refused to play saying the club were blocking his move to a huge pay day. If he’d got on with it and left right then with no messing about, how shafted would we have been?
Once we got into the summer transfer window, was he just faking a potential signing of a new contract to push OM to give him more? I have absolutely no idea; it’s possible, just as it’s possible he wasn’t doing that and was genuinely in two minds about what to do, People talk about players and relationship with the fans - but my guess is fans have no part in anybody’s thoughts at all: it comes down to players and owners and staff (team-mates and coaches). In this case both player and owner did absolutely fine: one saw his playing career continue on an impressive rising trajectory, the other came out the other side of owning the football club with a nice profit (seemingly). At no point in any of that contract negotiation - or any other one - was anyone involved thinking about the feelings of any Sheffield United fans. I don’t think any player is betraying us or being faithful to us or respecting us or disrespecting us. When it comes to negotiating your next work contract, fans are just - well - irrelevant to everybody involved really.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

kop blade
Ben Mee has captain
Replies
7
Views
860
CarlMcBlade
CarlMcBlade
T
BBC is back at Bramall Lane
Replies
14
Views
3K
SwissBlade
SwissBlade
T
If you believe
Replies
5
Views
966
SwissBlade
SwissBlade
Blade&Snuff
After todays game --- Heads up.
Replies
7
Views
1K
CarlMcBlade
CarlMcBlade
DronnieBlade
Unlike Sydie we REALLY need to talk about Michael Cooper
2 3 4
Replies
95
Views
5K
Bell4
Bell4

All advertisments are hidden for logged in members, why not log in/register?

All advertisments are hidden for logged in members, why not log in/register?

Back
Top Bottom