Mr McCabe

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I was talking to some Everton season ticket holders a couple of weeks back in Benidorm. They were there on a stag do. The rumour of Jags returning to BDTBL had just surfaced here, but they weren't aware of it. However, every one of them said we were welcome to him. Said that his legs have gone, and along with it that burst of pace he used to have to get himself out of trouble. They were full of praise about his first 5 or 6 seasons there, and the fact that he's captained the side for so long, but they now class him as a bit of a liability.
I also asked their thoughts on DCL, and to be honest they weren't too complimentary about him either...grumpy set of bleeders actually. Reminded me of a lot of our fans
 



I'm split between thinking it's an outrageous comment that's deeply insulting to our new signings and all those who shop at Aldi and reckonising it's a commonly used phrase indicating purchasing things at a low cost.

Obviously I'm going to take the former view because it's more controversial. What a terrible man CW is, how dare he intimate that just shopping at Aldi is in some way demeaning, that if you only shop at Aldi, you're just one of life's losers. It's deeply insulting to the peasants.
But don't forget that while produce is cheaper at Aldi, it is just as good and has the same nutritional value as other household brands..... allegedly.
 
And if I wanted to discuss whether Jags is good enough, Bladey enough, too old, too slow, too handbally, I'd go on the rumours section and add to the post about him.

I'd go on an Everton forum to talk about Everton players. In fairness to the Everton player, he's never taken any interest in us, so we should return the complement.
 
Very much doubt any clubs give a toss about other clubs forums.
There are so many massively varied opinions and false facts that it would be an amateurish way to run a business.

But we should never miss an opportunity to knock our own club, however flimsy the reason. It's the Bladesfans' Way.
 
You have to pay over the odds if you want something bad enough

You don't have to be stupid but you do have to pay more

The talk about not being held to ransom is a United trait designed to impress certain fans and it wants eradicating from the club,
it's stubborn, stupid and puts other clubs backs up so that they don't want to deal with us

The amount of players we have lost out on over the years because we stubbornly wouldn't pay that extra few quid is alarming and it seems like they still haven't learned

If Ryan Leonard and Ricky Holmes are good enough, we should go and get them like other clubs would do, and if they cost a few quid more than we expected, so what, that's life.

There is no set price on a player, their not a packet of chocolate biscuits

It just goes to show that not all clubs think like United, even Southend and Charlton can play the transfer market

If these two players belonged to United and were in the last year of their contracts they'd have been sold as soon as the first offer came in

We're not talking about being overcharged by millions here, just go and fucking get them

1. Tufty completely disagrees. He's made his standpoint perfectly clear time after time, yet you choose to ascribe it to the chairman, instead. Your attempts to suggest that he's being held back by McCabe are disingenuous, misguided and probably malicious.

2. Would you like to top up the offers with a contribution if your own, or do you just spend other people's money?
 
Nope. Let some other mug give him his last big pay day. Those days are long gone with CW in command. If he ain't have played for us before, nobody would dreamed of bringing his name up. We've got Blades shitting theresens in case we go for 30 year old, ex England international, David wheater, a domineering powerhouse of a CH, even though he'd be a better fit than the 36 year old Jags! So unless he agreed to come back and play for buttons, fuck him.
Right... he's far too old and past his best yet he's just played every week for a dude who's finished 7th in the Premier League.. okay. Weird.

And he's 34. So a huge 4 years between him and Wheater. Ace.
 
Yes, I think he means exactly like that. That's how I'd see it too. McGrath, Shipperley and Allison were all at the ends of their career, just like Jags is. McGrath was an exceptional footballer - possibly one of the greatest footballers ever to pull on a Sheffield United shirt. But...he was totally crocked by the time we got him. He didn't train all week and you couldn't play him in two consecutive matches because his knees wouldn't stand up to it. But - in the games that he did play he was a calming influence at a time when we definitely needed one. He was however, only a bit-part player.

Shipperley was brought in as a bit-part player by Warnock, and sure enough he played a bit-part for us. He was hopelessly unfit and overweight, but using him as a bit-part player paid dividends, because whilst he may have lost his fitness he still had the knack of "right-place", "right-time", and used sparingly he made a good contribution to the team and became a bit of a crowd favourite. After all, it's not often fans on the terraces can have someone to adore that looks no fitter than most of them.

And similarly with Allison. His appointment brought groans of despair as we all thought he was finished after a long career up the road at Huddersfield, in which he'd really been an icon of clumsiness and awkwardness, in a very ordinary pubby sort of team. We wondered what on earth he would contribute to the team, other than height and a bit of brawn. And the answer was - not much. He was another bit-part player brought in to stand with his back to goal and jump up in the air and head it backwards for Peschisolido to chase after it. And that's just about all he did - but he did it well.

And so to Jagielka then...

You've made the comparisons yourself to McGrath, Shipperley and Allison. Only I suspect you've made these to try and prove some kind of point that these old players at the end of their career still have something to give. And you're right. But, as I hope I've managed to point out, what they have to give at that stage of their career is limited and if we can afford to bring them in, knowing that they will only have a bit-part to play, and we, and they, are happy with that, then...I don't have a problem with it. But, if you ask me what I'd prefer, I'd prefer for us to get a good experienced centre half with another 7 to 10 years of their career in front of them. Someone who wants to do well and achieve more in the game - not someone who's been there and got the t-shirt already and is winding down to retirement.

I suspect McCabe's comments are about Jagielka. It's the kind "Bladey" thing that McCabe thinks is great! I've no doubt that McCabe would love him back here so that he can go and tell his foreign cronies, on his business trips, that, "Hey! - Did you know we've got an England football Captain playing for us now?". That would have McCabe purring like a kitten with a saucer full of milk.

But is it what we need?

Fair points about McGrath and Allison but no way was Shipperley a bit-part player and used sparingly.
He made 39 appearances in that promotion season and scored 11 goals.
He was dropped for a few games at one point which coincided with our poor run of form and he was quickly brought back in.
I would say he was definitely a first-choice player for that one season.
 
Is this interview on line some where?

I can't find it
 
Right... he's far too old and past his best yet he's just played every week for a dude who's finished 7th in the Premier League.. okay. Weird.

And he's 34. So a huge 4 years between him and Wheater. Ace.

Fuck him. Please visit an Everton site if you wish to discuss Everton players. This individual has nothing to do with our club.
 
1. Tufty completely disagrees. He's made his standpoint perfectly clear time after time, yet you choose to ascribe it to the chairman, instead. Your attempts to suggest that he's being held back by McCabe are disingenuous, misguided and probably malicious.

2. Would you like to top up the offers with a contribution if your own, or do you just spend other people's money?
Spot on Pinchy Wilder laid his cards on the table Thurs on Biggs show.He and his CoaChes like to work with hungry players with the right attitude,they have to have the ability to step up,surely that and the right coaching bridges the gap.It's a gradual process a nd some players get left behind as they cant cut it. The wage structure is based on moving up together as a team with financial rewards set accordingly
Based on the team ethic not the individual. It will probably change when we hit the premier league as equality probably is impossible at that level,but then again what do I know! Wilder might be able to make it work at that level,hopefully we will find out very soon
 
Jagielka won't be coming this summer. I don't know why that rumour still has any legs.

I can't see why Everton would move him on just yet and even if they did he's still good enough to play in the PL.
How can that possibly be true when people on here are telling me he's too old to play for us in the Championship!?
 
Then I must be brain dead, because I don`t want us to sign any players who will be 35 years of age at the start of the new season, unless it is in a coaching capacity.
 
Anyone who thinks Phil Jagielka wouldn't be a fantastic signing for us is brain dead.

Why the vitriol towards him? Weird

As you choose to raise the matter, be assured that my brain is a great deal livelier than yours will ever be. He's a twat. Why all the sycophancy towards another club's player?

Everton forum, please.
 
Don't want him within a million miles of my club. He's no Paul McGrath, or Gordon cowens. They could still be playing for us now with young puppies doing they're running. But Jags? His biggest asset was his pace to get him out of bother. Now completely gone. So add me to your brain dead list.
 



How can that possibly be true when people on here are telling me he's too old to play for us in the Championship!?

:D I forgot about all of the experts on here.

I would take Jags back at this very moment with open arms. He would improve our team but would probably cost a good wedge on the process.

There's no way he will be playing lower than the Premier League next season. He's comfortable at that level and I'm amazed anyone could watch his performances and think differently.
 
Fair points about McGrath and Allison but no way was Shipperley a bit-part player and used sparingly.
He made 39 appearances in that promotion season and scored 11 goals.
He was dropped for a few games at one point which coincided with our poor run of form and he was quickly brought back in.
I would say he was definitely a first-choice player for that one season.
Concede the point. Seem to remember him being brought on a lot as sub though so that's maybe why I see him that way.
 
Right... he's far too old and past his best yet he's just played every week for a dude who's finished 7th in the Premier League.. okay. Weird.

And he's 34. So a huge 4 years between him and Wheater. Ace.

Dude? Fuckin dude? Are you a native of New York that's just moved to Sheffield? No he hasn't played every week, has he? He only gets in now if there's an injury. His ship sailed long ago, he will not start next year if still there, either, but because he once played for us, let's re-sign him, hey?
 
As you choose to raise the matter, be assured that my brain is a great deal livelier than yours will ever be. He's a twat. Why all the sycophancy towards another club's player?

Everton forum, please.

Just out of interest, why is he a twat?
 
This thread is entitled "Mr McCabe" and all I can see is Jagielka this, Jagielka that, I must be doing something wrong?
 
This thread is entitled "Mr McCabe" and all I can see is Jagielka this, Jagielka that, I must be doing something wrong?


McCabe and Jagielka are inextricably linked . Just like Chedwyn , the signing of Jags has already done and dusted and Wilder will just have to suck it up and tell us all it was ' ultimately ' his idea . I do wish KM would keep his sneck out of footballing matters :mad:
 
Just out of interest, why is he a twat?

For jumping in his car to Goodson before the paint was wet on our relegation. For failing then or since to explain his absurd hand ball (it wasn't bent, I've never said it was; but he wasn't pushed either). For failing to mention our club at all in his first interview as an Everton player. For showing not the slightest interest in his old club since.

My allegiances are to Sheffield United, not Everton players.
 
For jumping in his car to Goodson before the paint was wet on our relegation. For failing then or since to explain his absurd hand ball (it wasn't bent, I've never said it was; but he wasn't pushed either). For failing to mention our club at all in his first interview as an Everton player. For showing not the slightest interest in his old club since.

My allegiances are to Sheffield United, not Everton players.
I completely agree!. Jags has never mentioned the blades once!!. I know a few Everton fans and they'd quite like to see him leave in the summer. He's never going to be seen around bdtbl anytime soon!!.
 
He came to the Sheffield utd celebration and spoke fondly of the club, I would have him back in a instance. Would be a brilliant signing, He has been great for Everton there last few games.
 
He came to the Sheffield utd celebration and spoke fondly of the club, I would have him back in a instance. Would be a brilliant signing, He has been great for Everton there last few games.

He came because he was specifically invited. He has never attended voluntarily. Off to the Everton forum, please, if you want to discuss Everton players. We're United on here...

I wouldn't have him back. Fuck him.
 
He came to the Sheffield utd celebration and spoke fondly of the club, I would have him back in a instance. Would be a brilliant signing, He has been great for Everton there last few games.

Some players who turn up at The Lane , want paying for the privilege . Some don't do owt for nowt .

For me it's a definite No . It's up to Wilder , he knows the score with some of these past so called heroes .
 
ok chill out, its a discussion forum. Somebody else started the conversation,i just added to it. I'm no Everton lover thankyou.
 



McCabe and Jagielka are inextricably linked . Just like Chedwyn , the signing of Jags has already done and dusted and Wilder will just have to suck it up and tell us all it was ' ultimately ' his idea . I do wish KM would keep his sneck out of footballing matters :mad:
Here we go again.

Wilder is his own man and will take no truck from McCabe.

We need him more than he needs us.
 

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