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Listened to the interview this morning and I was surprised with the Aldi comment, to be honest I'm absolutely fine with the players signed, they are from exactly where we should be looking, overpaid bloated championship has beens giving it the big un, haven't we had enough of them by now, and what can't be ignored is the fact that our championship rivals have been in for the players we've been signing, so where's the issue.... should have described them as astute signings..
I'm split between thinking it's an outrageous comment that's deeply insulting to our new signings and all those who shop at Aldi and reckonising it's a commonly used phrase indicating purchasing things at a low cost.

Obviously I'm going to take the former view because it's more controversial. What a terrible man CW is, how dare he intimate that just shopping at Aldi is in some way demeaning, that if you only shop at Aldi, you're just one of life's losers. It's deeply insulting to the peasants.
 



Well, that comment was directed at KM, and any other chairman/owner who thinks it's appropriate to spout off in public.

The more apt advice for some members is 'it's better to remain quiet and be thought an idiot than to open your mouth and remove all doubt'.

I've got loads of these homilies, I'm like Nigel Adkins.
 
McCabe doesn't seem to learn his lessons about PR at a football club. It was good to see him and the Prince talk about how we were looking to be competitive and wanted to aim for a top half finish over mere survival. Personally, I take his jokes about Messi as just that, but when you keep coming out with the "think Liverpool" and "special signings" lines, you set certain expectations for a lot of people and then McCabe's the first one to get snotty with reporters about how he's a big Blade and people should back off.
 
If jags had never played for us would we want him? I'd have him either way, talk of lower premier wanting him never mind championship, reads the game well, playing for England not long ago and if injuries hadn't spoiled his sesaon he would have still been a regular for Everton who finished what? 7th. 8 th? And he aint good enough for us? To many have got this must be young, relatively unknown and playing in the lower leagues, just because we have had some disappointment in the past doesn't make it a no go area, defoe anyone? He's older than jags and plays upforont for gods sake.
 
McCabe doesn't seem to learn his lessons about PR at a football club. It was good to see him and the Prince talk about how we were looking to be competitive and wanted to aim for a top half finish over mere survival. Personally, I take his jokes about Messi as just that, but when you keep coming out with the "think Liverpool" and "special signings" lines, you set certain expectations for a lot of people and then McCabe's the first one to get snotty with reporters about how he's a big Blade and people should back off.

Agree it's naevity, call it excitement/ positivity on McCabes part but some fans take that info and read into it what they want.

The "think Liverpooll" was comparing their spending in relation to Man City's spending.
When the Prince joined, the initial question was have we struck oil and now have millions to spend.
McCabe wanted to suppress the excitement by saying we WOULDNT be the Man City of league 1
However we would be the Liverpool of league 1, always having a budget to put us amongst the favourites for promotion but like Liverpool all our signings would need a business plan and we wouldn't significantly overspend wasting money. We have debts and without the Princes input we would just be treading water, another direct quote was the Prince input was a "game changer".

Maybe some of our fans took it literally that we'd start spending millions like Liverpool and were disapointed when we weren't signing Saurez and Sturridge types.

The "special signings" quote is a measure of his excitement/ intentions at having the finances to be competitive in the Championship. Some fans have been very underwhelmed at the 3 lower division signings so far and with Wilder commenting that "we won't be shopping at Aldi and won't be afraid to buy established Champiiship players" infers that Wilder also wants to get across the message that not all our Summer signings will be in the lower leagues. We must have some plans to bring in players who have a track record of being good enough in the Championship.
 
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If jags had never played for us would we want him? I'd have him either way, talk of lower premier wanting him never mind championship, reads the game well, playing for England not long ago and if injuries hadn't spoiled his sesaon he would have still been a regular for Everton who finished what? 7th. 8 th? And he aint good enough for us? To many have got this must be young, relatively unknown and playing in the lower leagues, just because we have had some disappointment in the past doesn't make it a no go area, defoe anyone? He's older than jags and plays upforont for gods sake.

I'd also have Jags back, he has experience and a great attitude.

He'll have a similar effect to Billy Sharp.
It's not just about his ability as an individual, agree his best days are behind him
But I think his influence and ability to strengthen the team spirit and will to win will prove invaluable.
 
Can't say I heard the clip, but it all sounds a million times less hubristic than the "Europe in 5 years" or "think Liverpool, not Man City" sort of bollocks from the past.

Really doesn't sound objectionable at all.

You have to think though what it's a response to? (And the same goes for Chris's "shopping at Aldi" comments in the Biggs interview yesterday.) Is there really any pressure on CW/KMcC to spend big or to make "statement signings"?

Best just unapologetically continue down the route we're going down. If and when we make a bigger signing or two, then fine & dandy. But no need to seem guilty at all for there being no sign of it yet.
 
I'm split between thinking it's an outrageous comment that's deeply insulting to our new signings and all those who shop at Aldi and reckonising it's a commonly used phrase indicating purchasing things at a low cost.

Obviously I'm going to take the former view because it's more controversial. What a terrible man CW is, how dare he intimate that just shopping at Aldi is in some way demeaning, that if you only shop at Aldi, you're just one of life's losers. It's deeply insulting to the peasants.
I bet you buy track suits at matalan too ;)
 
Agree it's naevity, call it excitement/ positivity on McCabes part but some fans take that info and read into it what they want.

The "think Liverpooll" was comparing their spending in relation to Man City's spending.
When the Prince joined, the initial question was have we struck oil and now have millions to spend.
McCabe wanted to suppress the excitement by saying we WOULDNT be the Man City of league 1
However we would be the Liverpool of league 1, always having a budget to put us amongst the favourites for promotion but like Liverpool all our signings would need a business plan and we wouldn't significantly overspend wasting money. We have debts and without the Princes input we would just be treading water, another direct quote was the Prince input was a "game changer".

Maybe some of our fans took it literally that we'd start spending millions like Liverpool and were disapointed when we weren't signing Saurez and Sturridge types.

The "special signings" quote is a measure of his excitement/ intentions at having the finances to be competitive in the Championship. Some fans have been very underwhelmed at the 3 lower division signings so far and with Wilder commenting that "we won't be shopping at Aldi and won't be afraid to buy established Champiiship players" infers that Wilder also wants to get across the message that not all our Summer signings will be in the lower leagues. We must have some plans to bring in players who have a track record of being good enough in the Championship.
Stop talking sense and putting a realistic context on matters.

This is a football forum.
 
McCabe should obviously never be allowed to speak to the media ever again as is clear from the above posts!!!!!
By the way, did anyone actually hear it? :rolleyes:
 
Here's a clue
Players with special talents do not go to clubs who do not pay over the odds

We're arguing the toss with Southend over an extra couple of hundred thousand but if the player has a good start to the season we will be at the back of the queue to sign him in January
 
And if I wanted to discuss whether Jags is
I'm just hoping I've missed the sarcasm in this post.

Nope. Let some other mug give him his last big pay day. Those days are long gone with CW in command. If he ain't have played for us before, nobody would dreamed of bringing his name up. We've got Blades shitting theresens in case we go for 30 year old, ex England international, David wheater, a domineering powerhouse of a CH, even though he'd be a better fit than the 36 year old Jags! So unless he agreed to come back and play for buttons, fuck him.
 



Nope. Let some other mug give him his last big pay day. Those days are long gone with CW in command. If he ain't have played for us before, nobody would dreamed of bringing his name up. We've got Blades shitting theresens in case we go for 30 year old, ex England international, David wheater, a domineering powerhouse of a CH, even though he'd be a better fit than the 36 year old Jags! So unless he agreed to come back and play for buttons, fuck him.
Luckily Wilder doesn't have the same short sighted view as yourself when it comes to the ages of players. There are plenty of players on the apparently dreadful "wrong side of 30" who would make brilliant signings.

Jagielka is one of them.
 
Not much to talk about? Check

Time to dig some shit up. Groan.
 
Luckily Wilder doesn't have the same short sighted view as yourself when it comes to the ages of players. There are plenty of players on the apparently dreadful "wrong side of 30" who would make brilliant signings.

Jagielka is one of them.

Short sighted? He's 30 bastard 6! As I said earlier don't see CW falling for this fawning Bladey Bladeness dog shit. If we want an experienced leader, Wheater is 30, also an ex England international. 6 years younger and exactly what we need for the championship. A mean horrible twat.
 
Manchester City have had real problems over the years because teams put their asking prices up for players as they know they are flush with cash. I've been one of McCabe's biggest backers on here, but he should learn to STFU. I'm not saying this will have a disastrous affect, but that it has the potential to make transfer negotiations a bit more tricky
Yeah, Man City have had loads of problems getting players in :confused:
McCabe not done anything wrong here. Sure he's getting excited again, trying to get some more season tickets bought and nothing in what he said suggested we would be paying over the odds for anyone.
Not sure if it's the warm weather but there seems to be a right load of old women on here at the moment, moaning about all sorts of fuck all.
 
Short sighted? He's 30 bastard 6! As I said earlier don't see CW falling for this fawning Bladey Bladeness dog shit. If we want an experienced leader, Wheater is 30, also an ex England international. 6 years younger and exactly what we need for the championship. A mean horrible twat.
You imply that Jagielka and Wheater are of the same quality and the only differentiation is their age. That's just plain bollocks and you're grossly underestimating how good Jagielka still is - and would be in the Championship.... even at 36.

P.S. I've just double checked and he's only actually 34 so not sure where you found those extra years.
 
Hes due a moment in the sun after skulkling around pre prince... looking in the bins at Evertons youth team rejects - (think jasper johns) Then he thougth he had hit the jackpot.. think Liverpool. But Nigey number 1 pissied it all up the wall on the likes of Alcock.

Let him have his 5 minutes ffs.

Hes backed us as much as he could these last few years.
 
Whatever it is, absolutely let it not be jags. Keep your hand in your pocket son. And stay in your beloved Manchester
 
Can't understand the vitriol against Jags.
34 year old Everton captain, played 28 games last season despite injuries and by all accounts played well.
Great attitude and leader and good with young players and understands what the Blades are about.
We signed McCall and Short at similar ages if not older and they were great for us, and it's probably true to say Jags has had a better career than them in terms of the standard in the Premier league now vs then and his international record.
Can't see why it's not a great signing for a club just promoted from league one?
When his signing is announced I think it's fair to say we won't be the most lucrative offer he's had, so again good intentions from the player - coming to do a job for the club not just the best pay packet.
 
do you mean like Paul McGrath and Neil Shipperley or Wayne Allison ?

Yes, I think he means exactly like that. That's how I'd see it too. McGrath, Shipperley and Allison were all at the ends of their career, just like Jags is. McGrath was an exceptional footballer - possibly one of the greatest footballers ever to pull on a Sheffield United shirt. But...he was totally crocked by the time we got him. He didn't train all week and you couldn't play him in two consecutive matches because his knees wouldn't stand up to it. But - in the games that he did play he was a calming influence at a time when we definitely needed one. He was however, only a bit-part player.

Shipperley was brought in as a bit-part player by Warnock, and sure enough he played a bit-part for us. He was hopelessly unfit and overweight, but using him as a bit-part player paid dividends, because whilst he may have lost his fitness he still had the knack of "right-place", "right-time", and used sparingly he made a good contribution to the team and became a bit of a crowd favourite. After all, it's not often fans on the terraces can have someone to adore that looks no fitter than most of them.

And similarly with Allison. His appointment brought groans of despair as we all thought he was finished after a long career up the road at Huddersfield, in which he'd really been an icon of clumsiness and awkwardness, in a very ordinary pubby sort of team. We wondered what on earth he would contribute to the team, other than height and a bit of brawn. And the answer was - not much. He was another bit-part player brought in to stand with his back to goal and jump up in the air and head it backwards for Peschisolido to chase after it. And that's just about all he did - but he did it well.

And so to Jagielka then...

You've made the comparisons yourself to McGrath, Shipperley and Allison. Only I suspect you've made these to try and prove some kind of point that these old players at the end of their career still have something to give. And you're right. But, as I hope I've managed to point out, what they have to give at that stage of their career is limited and if we can afford to bring them in, knowing that they will only have a bit-part to play, and we, and they, are happy with that, then...I don't have a problem with it. But, if you ask me what I'd prefer, I'd prefer for us to get a good experienced centre half with another 7 to 10 years of their career in front of them. Someone who wants to do well and achieve more in the game - not someone who's been there and got the t-shirt already and is winding down to retirement.

I suspect McCabe's comments are about Jagielka. It's the kind "Bladey" thing that McCabe thinks is great! I've no doubt that McCabe would love him back here so that he can go and tell his foreign cronies, on his business trips, that, "Hey! - Did you know we've got an England football Captain playing for us now?". That would have McCabe purring like a kitten with a saucer full of milk.

But is it what we need?
 
You imply that Jagielka and Wheater are of the same quality and the only differentiation is their age. That's just plain bollocks and you're grossly underestimating how good Jagielka still is - and would be in the Championship.... even at 36.

P.S. I've just double checked and he's only actually 34 so not sure where you found those extra years.

No I haven't implied that they are of the same quality! I've said Wheater is more of what we need and require for La Liga? A dominant leader, who adds height and power at both ends of the pitch. If we're gonna pay big money for a CH then better to spend it on Wheater than Jags, who's 4 years younger? Nobody had more time for Jags when he was here than me, but this Bladey Bladeness is getting beyond ridiculous.
 
Bit of an out of order comment that IMO, if he's talking about financial matters, ie not paying over the odds etc, then he is within his rights to do that.



You have to pay over the odds if you want something bad enough

You don't have to be stupid but you do have to pay more

The talk about not being held to ransom is a United trait designed to impress certain fans and it wants eradicating from the club,
it's stubborn, stupid and puts other clubs backs up so that they don't want to deal with us

The amount of players we have lost out on over the years because we stubbornly wouldn't pay that extra few quid is alarming and it seems like they still haven't learned

If Ryan Leonard and Ricky Holmes are good enough, we should go and get them like other clubs would do, and if they cost a few quid more than we expected, so what, that's life.

There is no set price on a player, their not a packet of chocolate biscuits

It just goes to show that not all clubs think like United, even Southend and Charlton can play the transfer market

If these two players belonged to United and were in the last year of their contracts they'd have been sold as soon as the first offer came in

We're not talking about being overcharged by millions here, just go and fucking get them
 



Jagielka won't be coming this summer. I don't know why that rumour still has any legs.

I can't see why Everton would move him on just yet and even if they did he's still good enough to play in the PL.
 

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