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I may have missed this resurgence - but I’m sure I read that they wanted to terminate his 2 year loan early because he was crap in his first season

Had a slow start but lately has been excellent from what I've seen in the media.

Interesting note, Besiktas pay a fee of £2.25m a year, he's on a 2 year loan that includes a first dibs option at the end of it.

Man U want £2m for Henderson for one season.

Henderson, Shrewsbury play off final, promoted from the Championship.

Karius, has been first choice at Liverpool, loads of PL experience, Champions League finalist.

Puts Man United's crazy requests into perspective, I don't think the wages will be much different either.
 

Everyone in the office claiming they need to wear goggles after that one.

What?

Not that type of movement. :confused:
 
I thought there were some glimpses at Burton last week, DB, but i guess that's a reflection on the opposition, who i thought looked OK.

I agree, think he will move on, which makes LCB a priority i guess.
Even if Stevens can cover for JOC. It means moving one of our best players out of a key position. Unless Wilder, has real faith in Bryan, we are definately a player short on the left side of the field. One injury, one suspension and we are of options. Even if its someone, who only plays a couple of games, we definately need another LCB in the squad
 
Even if Stevens can cover for JOC. It means moving one of our best players out of a key position. Unless Wilder, has real faith in Bryan, we are definately a player short on the left side of the field. One injury, one suspension and we are of options. Even if its someone, who only plays a couple of games, we definately need another LCB in the squad
Doesn’t signing Osborne solve that problem?
 
Even if Stevens can cover for JOC. It means moving one of our best players out of a key position. Unless Wilder, has real faith in Bryan, we are definately a player short on the left side of the field. One injury, one suspension and we are of options. Even if its someone, who only plays a couple of games, we definately need another LCB in the squad

Yeah i agree bonobo.
 
Only if Stevens is regarded as good enough cover, which in the PL i doubt.
Maybe. He surprised me when he filled in last season. The question is, can we get a better LCB than Stevens who’s prepared to sit on the bench?
 
I think Osborne could well challenge both Fleck and Stevens for either position.
Yeah my gut feeling is that he could be our best signing of the window.
 
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I confess to being completely unaware of his existence (or maybe I was and forgot) prior to our interest.
That’s why Mitchell does the scouting and we post on here. He’s a proper CW signing, approaching his peak years, versatile, played a lot of games for his age, good technique, probably undervalued at his club because of the lack of stability and consistency.
 
I suppose we’re dependent on other clubs wannintergerremin?

Surely SUMMONEM would be worth a punt by some of the Champ clubs, seems a bit odd weve not had any real reported interest.
 
Talking of Liverpool keepers, Karius is on loan at Besiktas, how much would it cost to get him on a permanent I wonder? He dropped a few bollocks in a Champions League final, but had a good season up to then, and is absolutely killing it in Turkey, only 26.

He's turned down a loan move back to England so that's a no go.
He has another year on loan at besiktas.
 
We need to save at least one loan for January - VFM is poor in January - I would save BOTH loans for January if it was up to me + go with squad of 23 for now
VFM seems to have gone to the wall already, just how bad will it be come January!
 
I think Osborne could well challenge both Fleck and Stevens for either position.

For £5m, I should think so.

Regarding the left side defence, I think we're taking quite a chance going with Stevens as JOC's primary backup. With Freeman and Morrison in to cover Fleck, it might have been a better idea to spend the Osborn money on a solid LCB/LWB.
 
For £5m, I should think so.

Regarding the left side defence, I think we're taking quite a chance going with Stevens as JOC's primary backup. With Freeman and Morrison in to cover Fleck, it might have been a better idea to spend the Osborn money on a solid LCB/LWB.

I guess we will have to wait and see what else transpires.
 
Ive not aeen anythjng to suggest there is a player in there or one that is close to champ let alone prem level. Have you? It's a big jump from Man City u23s / Oldham to level we expect.

Wilder obviously thought there was a talent but he has not looked remotely close to good enough. I expect him to move on when we get further additions.

I think FYT is just trying to be the first to claim he’d seen this lads talent. He isn’t. Brooke Vincent is.
 

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