Micky Adams: Sack him or back him

[Linz]

Not had one of these for a while, but if Kevin McCabe wants to gauge opinion from the fans, here it is.

Micky Adams - following the Swansea match would you sack him or back him?

Public poll chaps, vote away.

 

[Highbury_Blade]

Bye Bye adams. (And i'm not one of those swingers either)

 

[Ollessendro]

Got to go. For reasons highlighted in Sothall's thread. He simply has not done enough. Dreadful record and absolutely no signs that he is the right man to turn the club around.

 

[Crazyblade]

Get rid, and don't leave the door let you hit the ass when you leave. He's been a complete disaster for us.

 

[Vancouver]

Bye Bye adams. (And i'm not one of those swingers either)

I miss Darren.

 

[Worksop II]

I miss Darren.

He would be here now, arguing that just because McCabe got it wrong before, that has no bearing on the result of his decision this time ....

 

[Zlatan]

Really don't know, so I went for the third option.

On one hand his record is very poor and he's done nothing to suggest he can turn it around. On the other it would be yet another change, there's not many decent managers who'd join us, and it would take a new manager time to assess the squad which we're running out of. They also wouldn't have chance to see them feature in a competitive match before the season starts.

 

[Worksop II]

They also wouldn't have chance to see them feature in a competitive match before the season starts.

McCabe will clue them in, anyone left who couldn`t be sold are shite, build your team around them

Monty is yer Captain

 

[alcoblade]

Voted for no strong opinion, though I would keep him. I just don't feel that strongly about it...

UTB

 

[ZoneManWilf]

I've no confidence that whoever is making the football decisions is getting much right, and that would include any decision about another new manager.

So just some decisiveness will do. So sack him now and let the new guy have a pre-season and at least a season in Lg1. Or let Adams have a season with a semblance of his own squad. But decide within the next 2 weeks.

 

[sitwell]

Enough is enough ,stop the sacking ,get some stability in. He should find some decent players from the division below and get rid of the players in the club who either couldn't care less or aren't good enough. The one common theme in all this crapness is the players and Adams has seen this ,spoken about it and will now act on it. Don't go looking for another mug who could take 3 or 4 months to see and sort the problem and set us back even further.

 

[lenners]

It's a question that matters little.
Nowt matters unless McCabe himself is going to do his job for the first time in at least a couple of years.

 

[BladeHearts]

I'm all for stability, but I think once the chairman has reached the stage of canvassing opinion on whether the manager should stay or go, its time to go.

The board clearly have no confidence in Adams and were he to stay then realistically it would only be delaying the inevitable.

We cant afford a repeat of the Blackwell debacle, so sorry Micky ....... "im out"

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

Im in the out camp, but I dont have faith in KM appointing the right man next.

Hello rock, hi there hard place.

 

[FirthParkBlade]

I would still give him next season. The Swansea match IMO shouldn't be taken into consideration. Swansea were always going to try and put on a show against a team already relegated and in theory nothing to play for. Adams named a young side and we only had Slew fit to play up top. I disagree with playing one up front and he should have tried to put one of the more attack minded players up top but lets forget this performance.

Who would we get if Adams did go? I wouldn't be too upset if Adams was to go but I think we should at least give him next season. If he is to go lets hope we act quickly and get a replacement in time who can have the summer and bring in his own players.

It's going to be an interesting Summer.

 

[Kev Gee]

If he is too leave then he must be sacked before the week is out, so we can get prepared for next year.

 

[Worksop II]

The question for McCabe really is

Which scenario sells more Season Tickets, keeping Micky, or sacking Micky

 

[SE1Blade]

Really don't know, so I went for the third option.

On one hand his record is very poor and he's done nothing to suggest he can turn it around. On the other it would be yet another change, there's not many decent managers who'd join us, and it would take a new manager time to assess the squad which we're running out of. They also wouldn't have chance to see them feature in a competitive match before the season starts.

His record is actually very good (admittedly not at the Blades, having re-read your post). He got Leicester Promoted to the Premiership, got Fulham and Brighton promoted from League One, and Port Vale were top of the league when he joined us. If Speed had stayed and we'd gone down and sacked him last week, I couldn't think of anyone better placed than MA to manage us in League One, he has good knowledge of the lower leagues, knows what it takes to get out of them, and on top of that has now had 4 months to see exactly which players need to be got rid of and which youngsters are ripe to bring on.

Stability is whats needed and to sack him would set us back further, and it would take the new manager until Christmas to get to know these players, when we know now which ones aren't cutting the mustard.

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

His record is actually very good (admittedly not at the Blades, having re-read your post). He got Leicester Promoted to the Premiership, got Fulham and Brighton promoted from League One, and Port Vale were top of the league when he joined us. If Speed had stayed and we'd gone down and sacked him last week, I couldn't think of anyone better placed than MA to manage us in League One, he has good knowledge of the lower leagues, knows what it takes to get out of them, and on top of that has now had 4 months to see exactly which players need to be got rid of and which youngsters are ripe to bring on.

Stability is whats needed and to sack him would set us back further, and it would take the new manager until Christmas to get to know these players, when we know now which ones aren't cutting the mustard.

Dont agree, his record since coming to us is poor. His record before us wasnt great, his championship record is shocking, especially if you put the promtion with Leicester into proper context.
He came in with plenty of time to turn us round, wasted the best part of 2 million on Mrs Doyle, Collins and Bent, and took us down.
Our defence has be terrible and he bought two defensive players in January. Our last 10 matches we averaged 2 goals conceeded per match.

Lets say you have money for new signings, do you want to give it him to spend?

If he does lose his job, he cant say he has been hard done to.

 

[SE1Blade]

He's not going to get money to spend, I think that's the main issue.
However, if we do get some cash in for Ward, Evans & Monty (can't see anyone else bringing in anything substantial to be honest), then yes, I'd give it him to spend.
I'm not saying he's done well for us, the stats speak for themselves, but we've got an awful lot of overpaid wasters that need shifting. Judging from his comments, I think he knows exactly which ones.
I just hope he buys better than Collins & Doyle who have been nothing short of sensationally awful, but to be fair to MA, he has dropped them. Unlike other managers we've had recently who would stick by their own buys through sheer stubbornness.
We need to take stock. The only players we'll be buying this summer to replace the ones who leave will be from League One and League Two, and MA should know a bit about them.
I don't think there's anybody better out there at this moment in time either, but that shouldn't be an excuse for keeping him. My opinion is that he's the best placed manager to have the best chance of bringing us straight back up, which will not be easy by a long chalk.

 

[Russ]

Give him til Christmas

 

[Bladesway]

Fuck me, another manager. About time we all spat our dummies out and went into the car park and took our pants off or summat like.

When will people begin to see that the Manager (whoever it may be) is only part of the show. Until there is a change at the top the Manager makes very little difference. Unless you can find someone who can operate under impossible pressure from the boardroom and the fans then you are buggered. Sir Alex couldn't do anything with the shower of shit operating our club.

Adams should stay for me, even if its only to show what a bag of smashed twats we have running the club. I don't think McCabe and co could even contemplate buying him out of his contract. All the West Ham money for the next 3 years has been spunked up the wall by this relegation. It was less than 6 months ago that Adams was given the job on the back of 3 previous managers that season either scuttling out of the ship or getting booted up the arse. What the hell can be expected of him in 6 months?

In short, we are fucked which ever way we turn. Administration within 2 years if we fight it, sooner if we don't. An owner who is bored and wants out, a Manager who is average at best and a squad of players deminishing by the day (Ward gone now as well). If someone can see anything positive to add on this desolation of a season then please feel free to give it your best shot.

 

[Pinchy]

It gives us a chance to rebuild. An opportunity to shed our wretched reputation for anti-football. The prospect, at long last, of getting rid of mediocrities such as The Maestro whose committed but inept non-football have brought us to our present state.

 

[Bladesway]

It gives us a chance to rebuild. An opportunity to shed our wretched reputation for anti-football. The prospect, at long last, of getting rid of mediocrities such as The Maestro whose committed but inept non-football have brought us to our present state.

When does Pep Guadiola start then?

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

He's not going to get money to spend, I think that's the main issue.
I just hope he buys better than Collins & Doyle who have been nothing short of sensationally awful, but to be fair to MA, he has dropped them. Unlike other managers we've had recently who would stick by their own buys through sheer stubbornness.
We need to take stock. The only players we'll be buying this summer to replace the ones who leave will be from League One and League Two, and MA should know a bit about them.
I don't think there's anybody better out there at this moment in time either, but that shouldn't be an excuse for keeping him. My opinion is that he's the best placed manager to have the best chance of bringing us straight back up, which will not be easy by a long chalk.

I think there will be money to spend, and he men he brought in when he was up against it was those three. I cant say I'm comfortable with him spending the cash we have.
Better Candidates for the job?
Tisdale and Hill for two.
This isnt a knee jerk reaction, I've waited for the end of the season before judging anyone. Looking at the past 4 months there I havent seen any green shoots due to the manager.

 

[norfolkblade]

Poor squad or not, he isn't up to it I'm afraid, but if he's to be sacked, don't waste time and let him have the summer, we should have learnt from last summer.

 

[alcoblade]

In short, we are fucked which ever way we turn. Administration within 2 years if we fight it, sooner if we don't. An owner who is bored and wants out, a Manager who is average at best and a squad of players deminishing by the day (Ward gone now as well). If someone can see anything positive to add on this desolation of a season then please feel free to give it your best shot.

The Tevez money is earmarked to cover bank loans. After that, just about all the debt is owed to McCabe (so I'm led to believe). I can't see what benefit administration has to anyone. McCabe awarding himself 10p in the pound?

Isn't the plan a debt for equity swap anyway?

For me, the biggest risk is the current wage bill. If and how those contracts are re negotiated is what will define our fortunes, not admin. IMHO.

UTB

 

[Flatulent_Bob]

I'm with Alco, I cant see how Admin is going to be anywhere near the table.

 

[bladeinspaceandtime]

Based on his record surely he has to go, however whoever the manager ends up being they are going to get bugger all support from the board, so does it really matter? Hardly a great vote of confidence from McCabe that he has to go away and think about it - sounds like its more like "I would sack you but i'd have to fork out more money on compo and given my piss poor record employing managers who's to say your replacement would be any better?"

 

[DronnieBlade]

Question is if there is a realistic, financially viable alternative to MA who it is believed is "better" equipped to do the Job then MA has to go.

Is MA the best we can do ? Are our sights set high enough ?

If MA IS the best we can do at this moment in time then, as disappointing as this is, lets back him and move on.

For what its worth, SOD or Robbie Di Mateo get my vote. One being much more realistic than the other.