McCabe, still there

[metalblade]

McCabe has done some good at BDTBL, he tidied up the Bramall lane upper tier and shipped Monty out to one of his global empire clubs in Australia, and ............................... can't think of much else that hasn't gone tits up. I'm sure Blade Too Long with enlighten us all with a long list of positives when a brief note on a postage stamp would do.

 

[blade too long]

well

McCabe has done some good at BDTBL, he tidied up the Bramall lane upper tier and shipped Monty out to one of his global empire clubs in Australia, and ............................... can't think of much else that hasn't gone tits up. I'm sure Blade Too Long with enlighten us all with a long list of positives when a brief note on a postage stamp would do.

should read more often then, with your eyes open
mccabe isnt the club chairman though thats Steer, ,McCabe is only chairman of the plc now the business side , the balance sheet
have we ever owed money to the taxman , no
admin been touted as possible , only by owls fans
have we kept our better players, in the main are we dragging along with no hope of getting up , no

what angle do you look at it from
McCabe is a fan and a businessman
as you look at both of them , which one wants us not to be a prem side rather than a div 1 team
would mccabe be better off if we go up , I would say so , so why wouldnt he be trying to achieve it
Is he deliberately keeping us here so you can moan do you think
is he not going to be a lot better off if / when we get back up there
or as a lifelong fan do you think he likes us being in div 1

 

[blade too long]

An over-reliance on loanees for two seasons and going through four managers in one would be something that should at the very least get some consideration

that would be a managerial choice, again the loanees failed so why did they bother,panic set in afte Speed left us high and dry , not mccabes choice for him to walk out on us

why get in players who were no better than what we had, its not a decision mccabe made

how come you dont slag off Speed

 

[JohnDenver]

mccabe isnt the club chairman though thats Steer,

I think the big fella left the post last year. Couldn't remember who's in place now, but a quick google tells me it's David Green.

 

[JohnDenver]

An over-reliance on loanees for two seasons and going through four managers in one would be something that should at the very least get some consideration

that would be a managerial choice, again the loanees failed so why did they bother,panic set in afte Speed left us high and dry , not mccabes choice for him to walk out on us

why get in players who were no better than what we had, its not a decision mccabe made

how come you dont slag off Speed

I think McCabe's tenure has been a mixed bag, and final judgement can only be made when he goes.

However...

He simply has to take ultimate responsibility for the issues you list. Granted, Speed's departure was untimely, but it was McCabe who appointed him in equally untimely and ridiculous circumstances.

McCabe has done good things and bad. I don't hate him in the slightest. But let's be realistic about his accountability.

 

[Toronto Blade]

Born, and raised in sheffield, the cliffe, norfolk park , then skyedge, before dad was forced to get on his bike due to the cunt that is thatcher, moved over when we got relegated to 4th for next 6 yrs took ferry over to Liverpool [ it took all night] got train to manchester, then train to sheffield , did this every two weeks, then did reverse journey back sunday night to get into work for monday morning, sweated blood sweat and tears for this club mostly on the terraces of 2/3/4th division teams my son now follows the blades and goes football training in his blades top, I need no lessons in what it is to be a blade got the scars to prove it, don't bear you any personal malice mica, or any of the other Kyrpton factor academics pullin people up over full stops and comma's just your continued carping is a fuckin pain. Don't get over as much usuall grown up things to do,sorry bradford blade for the let down, but will get over before end of this season, doubt wether i'll see thee thou probable crying when vile get relegated again.

I hope that you were getting some kind of reward miles that is one heck of a journey but it must be full of some good memories with that type of dedication to the Blades!

 

[dublin 10 blade]

I hope that you were getting some kind of reward miles that is one heck of a journey but it must be full of some good memories with that type of dedication to the Blades!

As i was young , late teens early twenties you feel as though your invincible although on tuesdays you were bunched.Also only made mostly home games and away trips close to liverpool/manchester,and never ad a ounce of bother with either scousers or manc"s mostly city boys who thought i was mad to follow a team in 3/4th div .Only scrapes i got into was if the vile were playing away.Whats Canada like when my young one finishes her masters degree she's think of going there as ireland is fucked.

 

[Toronto Blade]

Canada is doing well in the present climate the economy is running along much better than the States .Her masters degree will definitely be an advantage the trick is to be qualified in a field that is in demand.

 

[TarquinDelouche]

And to those who say he has become poorer because of it and those who say he has ploughed millions in. Is that something you honestly believe? That a businessman worth several hundred millions of pounds has actually invested a penny of his own wealth into SUFC? He may have invested and made paper transactions but people like Kevin McCabe play with other peoples money never their own.

Unless you have evidence of this I'm going to assume you don't know what you're talking about.

 

[gavtheblade]

Foriegn investors are making a shambles of taking over clubs`FOR A HOBBY`,look at blackburn,pompey,forest,even liverpool-theres too much promise with no reward and seems no control between players ie;managers with players they actually want at the club and players the board would like to see at the club.
Im not here to applaud mcabe in anyway,but have taken encouragement in the last 12months from his working relationship with Danny wilson,as i see it in a positive,forward step to our future.

 

[metalblade]

well
should read more often then, with your eyes open
mccabe isnt the club chairman though thats Steer, ,McCabe is only chairman of the plc now the business side , the balance sheet have I said otherwise on this thread ? I understand your confusion we seem to have a new chairman every other month.
have we ever owed money to the taxman , no have I said otherwise on this thread ?
admin been touted as possible , only by owls fans have I said otherwise on this thread ?
have we kept our better players, in the main are we dragging along with no hope of getting up , no No for sure we have not kept our better players hence the reason we are in league one, we manage to sell a young starlet before every new season. Credit to him for allowing us to cover CB quickly and for signing Murphy who should be an excellent signing, still a lot can happen in a month guarded optimism here.

what angle do you look at it from
McCabe is a fan and a businessman
as you look at both of them , which one wants us not to be a prem side rather than a div 1 team
would mccabe be better off if we go up , I would say so , so why wouldnt he be trying to achieve it
Is he deliberately keeping us here so you can moan do you think
is he not going to be a lot better off if / when we get back up there
or as a lifelong fan do you think he likes us being in div 1

Of course he doesn't want to be here bit if you can't see he has protected his investment and is only putting in the minimum at the moment you must be going senile.

 

[blade too long]

he has the responsibilty of protecting all his staff in all his construction sites too
a business man trying to protect his investments , isnt that the idea, its not roullette
its common knowledge he wants away , if the right investment comes , hes said hes done his bit , hes waiting for fresh blood , but theres nothing forthcoming , if we all accept its in limbo, until someones daft enough to blow some of their money on us, but slagging him off is doing no one any favours, might even put off prospective investors if they think thyll get all this hassle

 

[metalblade]

he has the responsibilty of protecting all his staff in all his construction sites too
a business man trying to protect his investments , isnt that the idea, its not roullette
its common knowledge he wants away , if the right investment comes , hes said hes done his bit , hes waiting for fresh blood , but theres nothing forthcoming , if we all accept its in limbo, until someones daft enough to blow some of their money on us, but slagging him off is doing no one any favours, might even put off prospective investors if they think thyll get all this hassle

Never will get any investment while he holds on to the ground and academy, still nice to know you already have moaning fans down as an excuse, a truly pathetic excuse I might add.

 

[blade too long]

no more pathetic than saying investment wont come as he holds the academy and ground , will all be in the pot for any worth while investor

 

[beightonblade]

McWobbleGob has been the worst thing to happen to the Blades since we were formed.

The freehold trick was predictable, a Blades who charges 10% on loans to the club when high street banks were lending at less than 5% tells me all I need/want to know about him.
He shud be tarred n' feather then run out of town.

TWAT !

 

[TarquinDelouche]

Never will get any investment while he holds on to the ground and academy...

I assume you have evidence for this? Or some other valid reason for it? Were you party to previous negotiations with investors? Have you successfully attracted investment to your own football club, having offered up the ground and academy?
Or was it just another wild assertion being cast out there by someone else not knowing what they're talking about, but saying it with the kind of conviction that he hopes people will take as wisdom?

 

[alcoblade]

Never will get any investment while he holds on to the ground and academy, still nice to know you already have moaning fans down as an excuse, a truly pathetic excuse I might add.

Aye, Man City got fuck all investment after flogging the ground.

UTB

 

[metalblade]

I assume you have evidence for this? Or some other valid reason for it? Were you party to previous negotiations with investors? Have you successfully attracted investment to your own football club, having offered up the ground and academy?
Or was it just another wild assertion being cast out there by someone else not knowing what they're talking about, but saying it with the kind of conviction that he hopes people will take as wisdom?

I assume you have evidence to the contrary ??? ................................. no thought not.

 

[TarquinDelouche]

I assume you have evidence to the contrary ??? ................................. no thought not.

Alcoblade just gave you the example of Man City. I'll give you Leeds Utd.

 

[metalblade]

yes but they were not £50m in debt

 

[TarquinDelouche]

And if they were, I'm sure you'd say "Yes, but they don't play in red and white stripes".

 

[alcoblade]

yes but they were not £50m in debt

ROFL - comedy gold. So, your first statement was just c0mplete bollocks then? Nothing new there.

So it's the debt that's the issue then? Why not just say that the first time around? I think everyone accepts the debt is an issue. But it's no longer £50M, and to be fair to McCabe, he has gradually swapped debt for equity, going some way to relieve the mess he created.

UTB

 

[metalblade]

And if they were, I'm sure you'd say "Yes, but they don't play in red and white stripes".

But you don't know much do yer

 

[metalblade]

ROFL - comedy gold. So, your first statement was just c0mplete bollocks then? Nothing new there.

So it's the debt that's the issue then? Why not just say that the first time around? I think everyone accepts the debt is an issue. But it's no longer £50M, and to be fair to McCabe, he has gradually swapped debt for equity, going some way to relieve the mess he created.

UTB

As Tarquin would say do you have any evidence that the debt is not £50m and if so how much is it to the nearest £100

 

[alcoblade]

As Tarquin would say do you have any evidence that the debt is not £50m and if so how much is it to the nearest £100

If we agreed that the debt was £10M, or £10oM, we'd still not get investment would we? Not selling Pukka Pies would have killed any chance of it, I'd imagine. And remember, we play on Green grass. Who'd invest in that?

UTB

 

[beightonblade]

Does swapping debt for equity mean nicking the freehold?

 

[metalblade]

If we agreed that the debt was £10M, or £10oM, we'd still not get investment would we? Not selling Pukka Pies would have killed any chance of it, I'd imagine. And remember, we play on Green grass. Who'd invest in that?

UTB

Damn McCabe signing up with Peter's pies Grrrrrrrrrr

 

[Bladesway]

Unless you have evidence of this I'm going to assume you don't know what you're talking about.

what proof do you need. McCabes lifestyle hasn't changed one bit since we started losing money but the club has changed massively. I assume you know absolutely nothing about how business works if you think any of his personal funds have gone into SUFC.

 

[Bladesway]

never said it was all milk and honey bladesway , but just continually pushing the negatives , helps does it , if one of your kids gets ill do you say , come on your not as good as you used to be, your letting me down , or do you encourage the good things , mistakes have been made , but some things in the big world have changed , , the slump has hit the only , lets stress this , the only source of income we have, constructions on its arse, , instead of constantly berating McCabe why not ask other local wealthy people why they arent ploughing money said before we got relegated to div 1 he wanted someone else to take over , but no one has come forward , so what do you do , tell him hes a grabbing twat , fuck him off and leave us without a pot to piss in

great plan

and lets say you get your way and mccabe says enough Bladesway has convinced me Im the only problem here and goes , are you stepping in with the money,
Ill put it as straight language as I can , either put up or shut up ,offer a solid , we will be in europe in 5 years 250 million pound influx from me and my mates or stop fucking whingeing

on
Hang, you praised him for doing something, others disagree and so you come out with a load of shit I never actually said. Genius. McCabe has ultimately to take the blame for where we are. I remember someone once saying Europe in 5 years don't you? I don't have 250 million and if I did I wouldn't be so stupid as to make plastic promises or run a club the way McCabe has done. The man has run us into the wall and some people want us to clap him for getting players in to get us out of the third division.

 

[judge]

Does anyone having new , constructive or even slightly varied to add to this twice weekly debate ? Or shall we proceed straight on to the thrice weekly warnock is a twat epidemic sweeping this message board like agent smith in the matrix
?