Outgoing? Matt Done

[FTPE]

Would like to think our financial position is different to when Wolves came in for McDonald, for example.

I agree, while Maguire left for footballing reasons I honestly think macca left for financial ones- his and ours.
If a player wants to leave he'll go, but NONE of our players should be going to our opposition. We often sound a bit arrogant when we say we are too good for this league, but I'd say with the size of us-nobody in league 1 should be poaching our players!

 

[OllyBlade]

Yes, though wasn't that move also due to our standard-for-the-time release clause in the contract?

Hmm yes, though I don't think it was a standard thing necessarily, more than he wouldn't sign his deal without that clause in there. Not sure other players had similar.

 

[Fazak]

It's June with little or no football news around, agents who are positioning themselves for when contracts come to an end and journalists desperate to fill space. I think this sums this rumour up.

Would NA have accepted the job with United's reputation for hiring and firing if he was in a position where he needs to sell arguably his best two strikers? I sincerely hope not for NA's sake and for the sake of the supporters who turn up week in week out. If I'm wrong (not for the first time) then I'm off to Trading Standards.

 

[Aston max]

Source was sky sports news...

Remember sky don't like us we were the upstarts that didn't belong in the premier league not one pundit on sky said that West ham should loose point's over the tevez affair only the main street press did

 

[Caseh]

I'd be gutted if Done went, he's already my favourite player. But if he was to be sold, I could handle it if its NA that makes the call. I don't see why he would, but I want him to make all decisions regarding players.

 

[Bartleby]

Would NA have accepted the job with United's reputation for hiring and firing if he was in a position where he needs to sell arguably his best two strikers?

No I don't think he would and I don't think he does need to sell them. McDonald was a contractual clause thing ( Weir builds a side round him, he's in the shop window on TV first game of the season, seen and snapped up due to a contractual release clause, fancies his chances, season over). Maguire wanted to go, and from all accounts there was no pressure from the board to sell. So unless we have the same sort of contracts in place, or these guys want to go (in which case good riddance) I would hope that they are staying put.

 

[davidpinder]

Would like to think our financial position is different to when Wolves came in for McDonald, for example.

It wasn't a fortnight later, anyway didn't wolves trigger a clause?

 

[Barney]

Done, Murphy, Basham and Adams. Those four are the only players worthy of a 1st team spot next season if we are serious about automatic promotion and it's vital to keep them. Anybody else i wouldn't be sad to see go at all, because frankly the rest have all underperformed. Additionally, it would create room and generate a budget to go out and buy just a few decent players with.

 

[wizadry]

Anybody else i wouldn't be sad to see go at all, because frankly the rest have all underperformed.

I'm not disputing this but i do think we have to give a chance for quite a lot of the underperforming players to make amends for last season, especially with them having a new manager which will hopefully bring a new lease of life into them.

The reason i say this is that we are going to find it pretty hard to get rid of a lot of our players unless Clough gets a job at League one or League two level but even then i don't think most clubs would be able to afford them so it's propably best to try and get the best out of them and try to bring in 3 or 4 good additions if possible to help them along.

 

[Bartleby]

Done, Murphy, Basham and Adams. Those four are the only players worthy of a 1st team spot next season if we are serious about automatic promotion and it's vital to keep them. Anybody else i wouldn't be sad to see go at all, because frankly the rest have all underperformed. Additionally, it would create room and generate a budget to go out and buy just a few decent players with.

not Scougall and Flynn if they are back to fitness?

 

[Barney]

not Scougall and Flynn if they are back to fitness?

No.
Scougall: Way too weak and small and often not very accurate or creative with his play.
Flynn: He's a very average L1 player in my opinion. He doesn't stand out and there is nothing special about his attributes.

Ask yourself this, would any other player barring the four i have mentioned, get into Bristol City's team of last year? I think you would find yourself answering no to all concerned and there's where you have your answer. I want a title winning side not an average side.

 

[Barney]

I'm not disputing this but i do think we have to give a chance for quite a lot of the underperforming players to make amends for last season, especially with them having a new manager which will hopefully bring a new lease of life into them.

The reason i say this is that we are going to find it pretty hard to get rid of a lot of our players unless Clough gets a job at League one or League two level but even then i don't think most clubs would be able to afford them so it's propably best to try and get the best out of them and try to bring in 3 or 4 good additions if possible to help them along.

That unfortunately isn't realistic. We already have an outrageously large squad as it is and as it has been all season and we need to trim it down quite excessively, adding 3 or 4 more would just add to an already presumably stupendous wage bill for a L1 outfit. If i were NA I'd be asking about everywhere i could to try and offload all of the dross that NC provided us with. You can't just keep adding and adding to the squad, we need a big clear out to actually streamline the squad with less quantity and more quality.

 

[Caseh]

Done, Murphy, Basham and Adams. Those four are the only players worthy of a 1st team spot next season if we are serious about automatic promotion and it's vital to keep them. Anybody else i wouldn't be sad to see go at all, because frankly the rest have all underperformed. Additionally, it would create room and generate a budget to go out and buy just a few decent players with.

I can't say I remember Freeman putting a foot wrong.

 

[Blade56]

Tainted club at the moment is Wigan. Gone from family friendly club to religation spiralling racist club in one season just with a wrong managerial appointment and a misguided comment by Wheelan (a gentlemen of the game IMO).
Think they might have trouble attracting players in.

 

[maxstertheblade]

Wigan made 600k bid for Matt Done say the Sun

 

[Bartleby]

No.
Scougall: Way too weak and small and often not very accurate or creative with his play.
Flynn: He's a very average L1 player in my opinion. He doesn't stand out and there is nothing special about his attributes.

Ask yourself this, would any other player barring the four i have mentioned, get into Bristol City's team of last year? I think you would find yourself answering no to all concerned and there's where you have your answer. I want a title winning side not an average side.

Fair enough. They were both out of form and crocked last season, but on the form of the season before I think I would rate them worth a place, especially Flynn.

I know a lot said the spend on Brayford was a waste, and it was disappointing that he didn't hit any real form when he did come back, but if he did recover that form I would definitely include him.

 

[Darthblade]

Yep I think it is mind games too. Is someone at work trying to unsettle our best players before a ball has been kicked, or do clubs know our board have no backbone and are a soft touch.

I think the latter is a given .... proven time and time again over the years. Apparently, in order to pass the test and qualify to be a United board member, you have to have:

a) No common sense
b) No bloody idea about footballing matters
c) An inability to recognise a decent footballer
d) Not a clue about how much a footballer is worth
e) Be gullible in the extreme
f) Disastrous, bordering on appalling communication skills
g) Inability to recognise a crap deal when one hits you in the face
h) The negotiating skills of a 12 month old toddler
I) Complete and utter lack of awareness of most of what is going on around you
k) Not one shred of a backbone
l) A knitted bobble hat with the immortal words " I'm a soft touch" knitted into the pattern
m) No ambition
n) An irrational fear of the top two Divisions
o) A bottle carrier with no bottles in it
and finally ......
p) The inability to appreciate and recognise the pain, heartache and crap that the long-suffering supporters of this great Club ( notice I didn't say massive ) have had to endure over the last 40 years but yet still faithfully turn
up and support their team even though they KNOW in their hearts that it will probably end in tears again !!!

UTB & FTP

 

[Darthblade]

Wigan made 600k bid for Matt Done say the Sun

Our answer should be "come back with £2million added to that and we'll ask you to come in and chat" ! Failing that, the second word is "off" !!
UTB & FTP

 

[Latters]

No.
Scougall: Way too weak and small and often not very accurate or creative with his play.
Flynn: He's a very average L1 player in my opinion. He doesn't stand out and there is nothing special about his attributes.

Ask yourself this, would any other player barring the four i have mentioned, get into Bristol City's team of last year? I think you would find yourself answering no to all concerned and there's where you have your answer. I want a title winning side not an average side.

You'd seriously rather keep Basham than Scougall? I wouldn't.

I think people are looking at Basham's improvement, rather than his actual performances. He was infinitely better at the end of the season than the start, but he never reached the level of performances to warrant him being a first name on the teamsheet as some seem to think.

 

[Pinchy]

You'd seriously rather keep Basham than Scougall? I wouldn't.

I think people are looking at Basham's improvement, rather than his actual performances. He was infinitely better at the end of the season than the start, but he never reached the level of performances to warrant him being a first name on the teamsheet as some seem to think.

He's not alone in that. Reed, McNulty to name but two.

 

[Rossb123]

You'd seriously rather keep Basham than Scougall? I wouldn't.

I think people are looking at Basham's improvement, rather than his actual performances. He was infinitely better at the end of the season than the start, but he never reached the level of performances to warrant him being a first name on the teamsheet as some seem to think.

For this league I would rather have Basham than Scougall...if we was in the Championship/ Prem I would rather have Scougall. I agree in some ways that Basham shouldn't be guaranteed a game every week but his strength, work rate and defensive abilities does make him a major asset to any league one team.

 

[super_pig]

not Scougall and Flynn if they are back to fitness?

flynn .. brilliant one game in five
dont forget the beard.. reed will be a good player no brainer
so i got to thinking about 'the others' they all have one of two things in common
1. they're ex derby.. ie crap
2. they fell out with clough

 

[Barney]

Just to add to my previous comments on this thread, i forgot to mention that i'd keep Diego as well. That makes it 5.

 

[wizadry]

That unfortunately isn't realistic. We already have an outrageously large squad as it is and as it has been all season and we need to trim it down quite excessively, adding 3 or 4 more would just add to an already presumably stupendous wage bill for a L1 outfit. If i were NA I'd be asking about everywhere i could to try and offload all of the dross that NC provided us with. You can't just keep adding and adding to the squad, we need a big clear out to actually streamline the squad with less quantity and more quality.

I thought i'd explained it reasonable enough but obviously not

A few key words, "quite a lot", "i'm not disputing that", "new manager", "hard to get rid of our players", "affordability". All these from my post, do you get the jist?

What i didn't mention is i'd get a few out, that's been realistic. What we can't do is keep just 4 players, (i see it's 5 now), then get rid of the rest, that's just stupidity, not realistic and more like playing on a manager game than been in the real world.

 

[Barney]

I thought i'd explained it reasonable enough but obviously not

A few key words, "quite a lot", "i'm not disputing that", "new manager", "hard to get rid of our players", "affordability". All these from my post, do you get the jist?

What i didn't mention is i'd get a few out, that's been realistic. What we can't do is keep just 4 players, (i see it's 5 now), then get rid of the rest, that's just stupidity, not realistic and more like playing on a manager game than been in the real world.

In an ideal world if money weren't an issue I would get rid of everybody else but those 5 and sign more quality. Obviously i'm aware it's not economically possible which is a shame.

 

[Pierre's PC]

I remember starting as Exeter on the original Football Manager.

 

[wizadry]

I remember starting as Exeter on the original Football Manager.

I bet you won the Premier or the old first division as it was

 

[BeatleBlade]

Tainted club at the moment is Wigan. Gone from family friendly club to religation spiralling racist club in one season just with a wrong managerial appointment and a misguided comment by Wheelan (a gentlemen of the game IMO).
Think they might have trouble attracting players in.

Errrmm, now I don't want to start this debate again but we aren't exactly the most loveable club at the moment either (wrongly IMO but still).

 

[Bartleby]

I can't say I remember Freeman putting a foot wrong.

agree, he's a good player at this level - total crap at interviews though ;-)

 

[Blade56]

Errrmm, now I don't want to start this debate again but we aren't exactly the most loveable club at the moment either (wrongly IMO but still).

Disagree BB.

We've hit rock bottom with Tevez, religations, selling players, Chedgate etc.

We have turned the corner, have investment, facilities that many CC & PL clubs can only dream of with a strong support. That was good enough to attract a top notch manager who would be at home higher up.

All we need now is success on the pitch. Wigan are where we were 5 years ago with controvacy, religation and dwindling support in a city where egg chasing is the preferred sport.

Have faith, we are a very attractive proposition and this is our season!